Little old lady tells me off

[bird 9,916]

Basically if anybodies dog is on a lead and yours is off, then any trouble is your fault.

spot on , i had it loads of times when my dog is on his lead, there dogs come over, all you get is (its all right he is friendly) you say well mine might not be.??? if you see other dogs keep them on the lead, more so if you work them alot.

[littlefish 585]

I dont think its as clear cut as saying if someones dog is on the lead and yours isnt its your fault. People choose, very often to take there poor trained and socialised dogs to areas with lots of off lead dogs and then piss and moan if your friendly dog does what dogs do. Almost as bad as those that start screaming and shouting in terror when their dog and yours meet off lead, despite it being blindingly obvious that both dogs are happy and non agressive.

 

I think it is impossible to KNOW how a strange dog will act. Dog scraps can kick off in an instant with devastating consequences. I beleive it is a case of behaving responsibly, especially in a public space.

Edited June 20, 2010 by littlefish

[natter79 17]

I think it is impossible to KNOW how a strange dog will act. Dog scraps can kick off in an instant with devastating consequences. I beleive it is a case of behaving responsibly, especially in a public space.

 

spot on, my lurcher is as soft as sh1te and a bit of a puff but the other day he stuck his head in a hedge to pull out what i thought was a rabbit only to see him give some blokes border a bit of a shake, as you can imagine he was straight back on lead and apologies were made (the guy was fine as it happens cos his border was after a rabbit anyway) but off lead it could have turned nasty as i hadn't even noticed the guy or his dog.

atb natter

[anagallis_arvensis 2]

True I suppose but when you see two dogs stand at a distance and do a couple of bows to each other followed by trotting up to each other I dont think there's any need for shouting and screaming owners as I've experienced. My dog wont go near a strange dog in general but if one comes over to her its ususaly fairly easy to see whats going to happen. Entire male dogs can be more unpredictable though.

Edited June 20, 2010 by anagallis_arvensis

[davey 310]

I find the jack russels the worst small man sydrome ,the other day I was walking and some couples 2 dogs started yapping at my pup he knows he can just run off but as I walked pasted the bloke said there killers them 2 and I couldn't resist saying yeah they may get caught in my boys throat smiled and the blokes missus cracked up let your dog run like others is what I say

[stroller 341]

i totally agree with what your saying the fault was mine for not having maggie under control, but i think the ladies point was that i should have all four of the dogs on the lead at all times as more than two dogs constitute a pack and the dire consequences that follow with pack behaviour, i would probably add that in my opinion more than one dog can lead to pack behaviour.

 

The lady was threatened by the dogs running loose, as soon as i spotted her i brought the dogs in and as said earlier maggie slipped off without my seeing her go. I do take steps to avoid dogs on a lead as i know how people react from experience, and i once had a lurcher that was chased by an alsation across a busy road the end result was a dead alsation and a lucky lurcher.and im also out at 5am most mornings with the dogs so that they can run without any conflicts arising, however i was late this morning and as the saying goes we live and learn.

[its ma baw 51]

just got in from a nice walk with the dogs that ended up in an argument. walked along a river its a very public area and has big fields and little patches of trees everywhere so you can only see so far. i took the four dogs with me including Maggie who is a bit antisocial with strangers both dog and people more out of nervousness. anyway coming over the big fields the dogs are running a fair distance off hunting these little patches of rough for the very few rabbits that are about, when i see a grey haired person just crossing a bridge between the trees and the fields, so as im fairly bright i shout the dogs in and put the big black dog bob on the lead he will bark and growl at other dogs but he is all bluff. i think no more of this but walk along the river and through some trees onto another big field, i hadnt even noticed maggie had dissapeared till i heard her barking at a massive alsation which fair play was on the lead held by a a tiny little old woman. i shouted maggie over and at the second attempt she came. four dogs at heel i walked on and put them in the car.

 

up pulls the little old lady and gives me a right ear bashing about letting dogs run wild and 3 dogs constitute a pack. what i did manage to say before i had to walk away as my anger management isnt good. is that her dog which is highly antisocial and too powerful for her needs training so that she can trust it off the lead and that her obvious anxiety is transferring to her dog and is a lot of her dogs problem.

 

She had seen the four dogs hunting and felt threatened about going onto that field this was when i saw her going over the bridge.

 

im not blameless for sure as i had let maggie wander off but the other three dogs were nowhere near her dog and walked to heel perfectly until put into the vehicle. honest to God where do you go these days for a bit of peace and quiet? i told her to get on her bike which was very restrained of me!

 

 

So this old woman is guilty of what exactly? See if her dog tried to protect her, do you think those biddable dogs would have stood back and watched its mate getting a thumping? Your telling her to train her dog but clearly her dog is under control? I dunno.......

[anagallis_arvensis 2]

Now I'm firmly in the middle in this arguement but it seems to me that as long as you have a dangerous dog on a lead you can take it where you like. Its a bit like those dozy tits on their even more dumb horses who seem to think anyone with a dog or on a bicycle should always get out of there way just so their dumb animal doesnt mental and buck them off.

[its ma baw 51]

Now I'm firmly in the middle in this arguement but it seems to me that as long as you have a dangerous dog on a lead you can take it where you like. Its a bit like those dozy tits on their even more dumb horses who seem to think anyone with a dog or on a bicycle should always get out of there way just so their dumb animal doesnt mental and buck them off.

 

Thats got to be the most stupidest thing I've read on here. Who says the womans dog is dangerous? As for the horse, it is easier for you to get out of the way from a horse than it is for the horse to get out of your way surely? You sound as if you struggle to control a dog so I wouldn't go slagging off someone who has mastered riding a horse.

[Guest fence_hopper]

you should show your elders some respect mate if the shoe was on the other foot you would of acted the same

[anagallis_arvensis 2]

Now I'm firmly in the middle in this arguement but it seems to me that as long as you have a dangerous dog on a lead you can take it where you like. Its a bit like those dozy tits on their even more dumb horses who seem to think anyone with a dog or on a bicycle should always get out of there way just so their dumb animal doesnt mental and buck them off.

 

Thats got to be the most stupidest thing I've read on here. Who says the womans dog is dangerous? As for the horse, it is easier for you to get out of the way from a horse than it is for the horse to get out of your way surely? You sound as if you struggle to control a dog so I wouldn't go slagging off someone who has mastered riding a horse.

cant be arsed

Edited June 20, 2010 by anagallis_arvensis

[its ma baw 51]

Now I'm firmly in the middle in this arguement but it seems to me that as long as you have a dangerous dog on a lead you can take it where you like. Its a bit like those dozy tits on their even more dumb horses who seem to think anyone with a dog or on a bicycle should always get out of there way just so their dumb animal doesnt mental and buck them off.

 

Thats got to be the most stupidest thing I've read on here. Who says the womans dog is dangerous? As for the horse, it is easier for you to get out of the way from a horse than it is for the horse to get out of your way surely? You sound as if you struggle to control a dog so I wouldn't go slagging off someone who has mastered riding a horse.

cant be arsed

 

 

Only because you've re-read the thread you clown lol. I remember what you typed though...... You said the old ladies dog wasn't under control but clearly it was. The guy didn't even know his dog was missing until he heard it barking at this innocent old ladies dog. As for your obvious dislike for horses regarding you and your bike, can I just say, bikes have to be the biggest hazard on the roads. I live up North unfortunately have to commute on the A9 which, in my part of the country is full of arseholes on bikes doing the end to end pish. It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't need an ontourage of camper vans following them and vans to blocking the road warning you they are ahead. As if I give a f**k!!! Bikes, f**k off I say...

[Helen 2]

My pet hate loose dogs, I had my finger broken and was bitten by a totally out of control dog earlier this year. It ran away from its useless owner and decided to ravel itself up in my tracking line. Last week my 11 week pup was walking on lead past a moored boat the dick of a owner had gone inside and locked his bull x outside it lept off the boat and bit my pup the stupid bloke had the nerve to have a go at me saying the tow path was for everyones use!!!! The w***er soon moved his dog when he saw me a bit later with my considerably bigger dogs. It really annoys me the way some men see older women as easy targets to have a go at, he didnt say a word when I had a bloke with me. Rant over

[littlefish 585]

My pet hate loose dogs, I had my finger broken and was bitten by a totally out of control dog earlier this year. It ran away from its useless owner and decided to ravel itself up in my tracking line. Last week my 11 week pup was walking on lead past a moored boat the dick of a owner had gone inside and locked his bull x outside it lept off the boat and bit my pup the stupid bloke had the nerve to have a go at me saying the tow path was for everyones use!!!! The w***er soon moved his dog when he saw me a bit later with my considerably bigger dogs. It really annoys me the way some men see older women as easy targets to have a go at, he didnt say a word when I had a bloke with me. Rant over

 

Sounds like he was a right arse! Hope his boat springs a leak

[anagallis_arvensis 2]

Only because you've re-read the thread you clown lol. I remember what you typed though...... You said the old ladies dog wasn't under control but clearly it was.

 

I was talking of the people who, said if a dog goes up to another on the lead, its the dog that goes up to its fault if something happens, which is true to an extent, however if you have a dog that cannot be trusted with others it would be best to keep away from areas with off lead dogs. Each owner is responsible for the behaviour of their own dog, if you can predict what might happen you should minimise that risk and wandering about with a poorly socialised dog in an area with off lead dogs seems daft to me. Not that I have to worry as my dog does neither. Although she has been chased by a couple of German shepards in recent times when my girlfriends been walking her. I'm waiting meet that owner and have a quiet chat. The horses thing is my bug bear when I've had one women have a go at me for stopping on my bike as I was scaring her stupid animal and then 5 mins later another has a go at me for going past it slowly..... these people might want to consider avoiding busy places if the horse is so scared of bikes.