They're circling the wagons....

[its ma baw 51]

Taken from HSA.......

 

Now that the Conservatives have taken power, how long will it be before they start paying back their fellow blood junkies and try to repeal the hunting ban?

 

Moves are already afoot in the new government - secretly and along the lines that saw hunting excluded from debating topics in almost every constituency and media debate (why are they so embarrassed about what they do?). It is apparently in the 'in-tray' of the new agriculture minister Caroline Spelman to be sneaked through in a repeal catch-all package in this month's Queen's Speech (May 25th 2010).

 

Just in case they think it is too soon for their true colours to be revealed, Nick Herbert (the hopelessly inadequate public schoolboy who set up the Newmarket Beagles in the early 90's) becomes the new policing minister - to ensure that any policing of the hunting act will never happen.

 

Eton educated Cameron has got the Liberals to prop him up in power and we will see the real meaning of 'liberalism' when it comes to inflicting harm and suffering on animals when Cameron's old urges start to click back in. Remember kids, Liberal Lord David Steel was instrumental in setting up the Countryside Alliance and was their first chairman.

 

Coincidentally (or not) the Eton College Beagles were the main hunting feature in 'Horse and Hound' the week before the election and there was something unnerving seeing all those rosy cheeked little-lord-fauntleroys enjoying their hard earned privileges over Windsor Great Park. These people believe they are born to govern the country and they have been proved right in 2010. Isn't this 2010 not 1810!!

 

Add to this the near beatification of Cameron's wife and her portrayal as being 'normal' and you can see where things are headed. Samantha Cameron was born to Sir Reginald Adrian Berkeley Sheffield, 8th Baronet, and later became a step daugher of Lord William (Viscount) Astor who just happens to be the deputy chairman of the 'repeal committee' on the hunting act. No prizes what they all talk about at familiy occasions. Hopefully when the real loyalties of the political upper classes start to become apparent and the bbc has had its beating, journalists might wake up from their daze?

 

Unbelievably to most 'normal' people, talk is now of bringing back otterhunting if numbers could allow it. The old otterhunts changed to minkhunting when it became 'poor form' to hunt an animal that was almost extinct in the wild in the late 70's. They've kept their packs of hounds going in the hope that they could eventually return to their preferred perversion of hunting otters for fun. They've even got hunters running otter surveying groups for wildlife trusts (James Williams a former otterhunter (and proud of it) is a senior member of the Culmstock Minkhounds (formerly the Culmstock Otterhounds) and chairs the otter group of the Somerset Wildlife Trust). We wonder what they will be doing with this population data if otterhunting is revived?

 

Under a Liberal supported Cameron government, Stag, Fox, Hare and Mink hunting along with Hare Coursing will all become legal and open again. Remember this is 2010 not 1810!!

 

Where does the HSA fit into any of this? Throughout the ban, despite hoping that Labour politicians would remain interested or the police might actually police the law or the media might report what was really happening, we have been sabbing pretty much throughout. Some groups have used cameras to try to record the slaughter but most have had to intervene directly every time they go out.

 

The police, so vociferous in their inability to police the hunting act will now spare no expense to support their masters in the political and hunting worlds and we can expect to see riot vans out in the countryside once more and ambulances to cart us off to hospital.

 

Some things remain certain in these strange times.....we aren't going away anytime soon - It's time to get active and get out there.

[Guest AngelicAcid]

Sounds great to me.

[its ma baw 51]

Sounds great to me.

 

Sounds good to me too mate but don't think these c**ts will allow any of this to happen. Keep vigalent and don't give them ammo.

[its ma baw 51]

hare hunting

Check this out lol. They're a f*****g joke.......

Edited June 8, 2010 by its ma baw

[Catcher 1 639]

I love your enthusiasm mate.but i still think hare coursing for the working man is a thing of the past.atb. Catcher

 

 

[mush 204]

we can expect to see riot vans out in the countryside once more and ambulances to cart us off to hospital

 

cant wait LOL rosy cheeked last time i went Beagling my face went bright red thought i was going to died of a heart attack and whats a little-lord-fauntleroys ?

[its ma baw 51]

I love your enthusiasm mate.but i still think hare coursing for the working man is a thing of the past.atb. Catcher

 

Look at the "evidence" they have for the hare hunting and they want the police to take action. These guys are a f*****g joke and if any of them are on here, let me be the first to say......... HAW HAW HAW

[turnout 7]

never say never catcher an as for the sabbs are they as violent as they used to be i used to mink hunt alot when younger an they used to hit hounds with hammers etc animal rights yep i thought the same

[its ma baw 51]

SABOTAGE

 

Nathan Brown:I have been sabotaging hunts now for 12 or 13 years

[ horn blowing ]

The reason I go out to sabotage a hunt is because I know I can go out and save an animal's life that day. I can very often see the animal i am saving and know exactly what I have done to save that animal's life.

 

James Connolly: I suppose we first started to see the use of direct action in animal rights and so on over the last 20 years.

[huntsman with whip, saboteurs]

 

Tom Harris: Certain members of the RSPCA started being quite vocal about the issue of hunting and because the RSPCA at the time was, and it still is, a Royal Society and the vast majority of them are pro-hunt people were actually banished from the meetings for daring to say that hunting was wrong. They decided to actually go out into the fields and disrupt the hunt.

[saboteurs whooping and horn blowing]

 

Nathan Brown: The first hunt saboteurs appeared 40 years ago. December 1963, Boxing Day, the South Devon Hunt, and they used some smoke bombs and a few hunting horns. Basically the hunt called the day off as a result.

 

James Connolly: I suppose the thing that motivates people to use direct action is a sense of powerlessness in the face of governments who don't seem to be responsive. And on the other hand a sense of moral outrage against a society which they don't see as being responsive, A moral outrage directed against people who they see as being in some way doing something which is obviously reprehensible and wrong.

 

Keith Mann: I think what motivates most people, certainly what motivated me, to take direct action was the amount of suffering animals were being subjected to.

 

Nicci Tapping: People are given no choice but to take direct action and they do so because it works.

[horn blowing]

 

James Connolly: We can see this in the case of hunt sabotage and other sorts of environmental protest. I don't think we would have had bills passing before the House of Commons unless there had been these protests.

 

Nicci Tapping: If we just stood outside Parliament with a banner every day saying "please ban foxhunting" you don't get any results but if you go out in the fields and hunt saboteur, you know, you save lives every day. You get an immediate result.

 

James Connolly: Things which previously, in many cases, were not illegal have now been made illegal

 

Keith Mann: The law has been deliberately changed in order to make those actions illegal so it's now illegal to do what we could do 10 [or] 15 years ago in the field because that kind of protesting was working.

[police and hunt sab]

 

Police: Listen what we'll do is arrest you

 

Sab: Please stop pulling me. Please. Please stop pulling me

 

Footage from 14/2/04

 

Various: Get your f***ing hands off me, right! Get off me. Get off Are you gonna hit me? It's getting quite nasty here

 

It's amazing. You're astounding me.I'm sure you all joined up didn't you so they could kill wild animals. And this is it. There's 12 of you here so they can kill one wild animal. It's 4.30 in the afternoon . Why don't you just tell them to piss off anf go home. You lot are going to be working all night cos you're nicking us now. And you're going to be working when we take you to court and sue you.

 

Luke, cameraman, Voice over: If you look closely in the right hand corner you will see the police officer push me to the floor after taking my tape. He gave no reason why he took my tape.

 

Luke (on phone): Hello. Could I speak to someone from the Police Complaints Authority please?

 

Luke (to camera): Okay I'm just going to go into Surrey Police station and ask where my tape is Voice over: What happened? Luke: Well, that wasn't a great lot of help. The officer in charge who confiscated my tape isn't available and he wasn't available by phone. Um. No idea why it was seized. The onoly one who can comment on that is the officer so nothing really. Not much help at all. They're gonna email him but what's that going to do? He hasn't got in contact with me yet so I hope that he will

 

Keith Mann: The law doesn't work for protestors. Not in my experience. I desperately want for the law to work so I can protest legitimately, write to my MP, go on a demonstration, hand in a petition to change things but the law doesn't work like that.

 

Police officer: She's told me that she's got citronella on her and i've taken it away.

 

Sab: Why have you taken it away from her?

 

Police officer: Because there's a hunt in progress..

 

Sab: So. Why have you taken that. You haven't got any right to take it away from her have you.

 

Police officer: I've taken it away from her, okay, cos that is used to disrupt the hunt

 

Police officer 2: We'll allow you to have that back from the moment but be rest assured if it used to disrupt the hunt in any way or any other offensive way it will be seized off you.

 

Nathan Brown (voice over): The implementation of the law is very arbitrary. So what happens is, as happened in a recent case, police were out at a hunt. 40 officers. They spent all their time focussing on the hunt saboteurs, trying to stop them save lives, trying to use Aggravated Trespass clauses to prevent us getting on with our job. Meanwhile a hunt saboteur gets attacked by somebody from the hunt and the police fail to act.

 

Police officer: Make a decision now. Are you going to surrender that weapon and give us your details.

 

Sab: I do not have a weapon upon me.

 

Tom Harris: There's a lot of cases where hunt saboteurs are actually better at controlling the hounds than the hunt themselves are.

 

Sab: Look. Look. It's a home-made whip. See. For stopping hounds when they're gonna run across a railway track or a busy road or when they are on a deer. Yeah?

 

Nicci Tapping: The law doesn't work but we have become stronger.

 

James Connolly: Things which previously, in many cases, were not illegal have been made illegal and the punishments and so on and the attitude of the courts is correspondingly different. It's made it harder, in a sense, harder to find people to take part, sometimes, in these direct forms of action because the consequences of doing so might be more extreme.

 

Tom Harris: Animals just basically want to be left alone the way they've been living together for thousands of years without human interference and for us to give them rights to feel we have the right is speciest.

 

James Connolly: [these] forms of protest, in general, are not likely to go away. Over the last 10 years we have in this country rediscovered protest as a new form of politics in a way. So, people who are often written off by politicians as being apathetic, very often the young, turn out not to be so apathetic, they just turn out to be keen on doing other things in other ways.

[its ma baw 51]

And we thought we had it hard.........

[poacher3161 1,766]

Just hope with the cutts in certain police forces budgets monitoring hunts and dog lads will be way down their list of prioritys

[Catcher 1 639]

IMHO The ban may be changed but the hare will still be a nono like the badger.atb. Catcher

 

 

[its ma baw 51]

IMHO The ban may be changed but the hare will still be a nono like the badger.atb. Catcher

 

Maybe so but its good reading these clowns worrying about it.

[whin 463]

good reading , but its up to individauls what they do ,and well its never been infra dig coursing hunting even tho its a good means of pestcontrol and food , i hope it all comes back be brill

[Guest AngelicAcid]

Beleive it or not, I used to know an anilmal rights activist, who used to lamp anything and also course hares.

Needles to add he is a complete wanker, and is also a PUFF. :sick: