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ai but obviously if there was any doubt there would be tests done wouldnt you think.

yes i reckon they could have been feeding them,even in the house?seems strange it went up stairs.did it have a basket of apples and a red hoodie too?

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i find it hard to believe too. the sounds and smells of people are enough to keep any fox away, no matter how urbanised. something smells a bit fishy i think.

 

I live in a small town, and not commenting on the accuracy of the story itself, but a few years back a friend and I were walking along one bin night when we saw what we thought was a stray dog sniffing at a bag... she chirruped at it and it came nearer. It wasn't a dog, but a fox... it trotted along around us for a bit and took dog treats that I threw for it. It wasn't at all worried by my JRT, on the lead, going mental and doing chainsaw impressions.

 

We saw it several times over a couple of months of a very cold winter; it was in very good condition, wasn't afraid of dogs or people at all (one friend claimed that her little dog got chased by it), and I got the impression sometimes when walking to my friend's place that it came to meet me (and the JRT, who wasn't at all amused!). I'd always see it in the same street at roughly the same place. I never saw it in daylight, but it wasn't afraid of coming right out into the open under bright streetlighting or of getting close and was very curious.

 

I once heard some other people say "Oh look, there's the fox again" so I'm pretty certain people were feeding it regularly. After a few weeks I saw a large fox dead on the bypass close to the town and never saw "our" fox again, so I guess he got too confident.

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foxes will always head to where the food is easiest....so many move into town and cities to forage in the bins. some wise people see the lovely cuddly things...that after a time in the big apple dont run away from people or act shy anymore and think they will feed them in their garden.....a lovely bit of the countryside being coaxed to their back door...then one night when they dont show up with the food and the fox waits patiently until it realises the door is open and there is a little pink animal left for it in a crib......

 

 

very sad for the parents and children involved...but

 

 

at least with the bad publicity with the shootings last week this may help to show that sometimes shooting/digging these cuddly things may be the best option...dont want more of this happenning

 

atb

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perhaps they will change the Hunting Act to account for this;

Hunting below ground

 

Hunting below ground takes place with terriers. The Act outlaws hunting with terriers (also known as terrier work of fox baiting) with a narrowly drawn exemption, described by the Minister, Alun Michael MP as existing "for gamekeepers".[44] The Act requires that any hunting below ground must comply with a number of conditions:

 

* The activity must be carried out "for the purpose of preventing or reducing serious damage to gamebirds or wild birds which a person is keeping or preserving for the purpose of their being shot and for the protection of urban raised childern"

* The person using the dog must have with them written evidence that the land used belongs to them or that they have been given permission to use the land by the occupier. This permission must be shown immediately to a police officer on request.

* Only one dog may be used underground at any one time.

* Reasonable steps must be taken to ensure that:

o the mammal is flushed as soon as found

o the mammal is shot as soon as flushed,

o the manner in which the dog is used complies with a code of practice, and the dog must be under sufficient control so as not to prevent this, and

o the dog is not injured.[42]

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perhaps they will change the Hunting Act to account for this;

Hunting below ground

 

Hunting below ground takes place with terriers. The Act outlaws hunting with terriers (also known as terrier work of fox baiting) with a narrowly drawn exemption, described by the Minister, Alun Michael MP as existing "for gamekeepers".[44] The Act requires that any hunting below ground must comply with a number of conditions:

 

* The activity must be carried out "for the purpose of preventing or reducing serious damage to gamebirds or wild birds which a person is keeping or preserving for the purpose of their being shot and for the protection of urban raised childern"

* The person using the dog must have with them written evidence that the land used belongs to them or that they have been given permission to use the land by the occupier. This permission must be shown immediately to a police officer on request.

* Only one dog may be used underground at any one time.

* Reasonable steps must be taken to ensure that:

o the mammal is flushed as soon as found

o the mammal is shot as soon as flushed,

o the manner in which the dog is used complies with a code of practice, and the dog must be under sufficient control so as not to prevent this, and

o the dog is not injured.[42]

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i dont think for 1 minute this was a family pet, if the parents were not right beside the cot at the time a fox would always take a gamble for a quick and easy meal, 1 thing the antis should take from this is that foxes are vermin, they need to be controlled and they should back off and realise this fact.

all the best to the twins and have a speedy recovery

atb

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was it a fox though nobody knows they could own a spiteful dog just saying its a fox so they dont get in trouble who knows i.v never known a foxy t be that brave v

 

I hope that your wrong POACHER but I have to admit this is the first thing that I thought when I heard it thismorning and even my wife had the same thoughts to.I wonder how many others have doubts but are keeping them to their self ?

i find it hard to believe that a dog owner would lie to protect the dog that mawled their own babys. CP

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The neighbours would of said by now if they had a dog that they were keeping or hiding from us! And besides no one would even dream of just cooking up a story like this. Dog bites and Fox bites are different as well, so you'd have to be a real div to try and lie about this one.

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