stroller 341 Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 nothing hard about taking deer a decent sized game dog will do it no problem, apart from that it must be one of the most cruel uses of dogs. i have no time for it or people who do it. i have never been into hare coursing but have run a few in my time and it takes a helluva dog to give a good show on a fit hare in small fields with law given. ive taken a few but my dogs are rabbit dogs and a hare course used to be the equivalent of six rabbits so there was no point. my hare chasing days were pre ban by about ten years, if i see a hare in a field i will leash the dogs these days its just not worth the hassle and often the farmers quite like them if there is only a few so why upset them. Permission isnt easily got. Quote Link to post
moonlighter 1,164 Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 some of it depends on the dog and what it preferes. My old dog has had a hard life and is feeling the effects of a few hard seasons, and when a hare gets up more escape than get caught(bearing in mind he is a well bred hare dog). but if he stumbles across a deer he runs like a pup and not many get away(he pulled his last 12 out of 12 runs). Though he will be stiff afterwards! On the other hand i've seen good hare dogs(regular 3 out of 3) that dont catch many deer.....they are fast enough but its the pulling thats the hard part....to hit a 50/60lb deer a 30 mph takes some balls. Most are caught by dykes or fences.....and ive even seen a fallow stag been chased by a terrier run straight into a tree and knock its self out!! Quote Link to post
moonlighter 1,164 Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 some of it depends on the dog and what it preferes. My old dog has had a hard life and is feeling the effects of a few hard seasons, and when a hare gets up more escape than get caught(bearing in mind he is a well bred hare dog). but if he stumbles across a deer he runs like a pup and not many get away(he pulled his last 12 out of 12 runs). Though he will be stiff afterwards! On the other hand i've seen good hare dogs(regular 3 out of 3) that dont catch many deer.....they are fast enough but its the pulling thats the hard part....to hit a 50/60lb deer a 30 mph takes some balls. Most are caught by dykes or fences.....and ive even seen a fallow stag been chased by a terrier run straight into a tree and knock its self out!! All pre ban by the way....just reminising. Quote Link to post
watchman 256 Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 nothing hard about taking deer a decent sized game dog will do it no problem, apart from that it must be one of the most cruel uses of dogs. i have no time for it or people who do it. i have never been into hare coursing but have run a few in my time and it takes a helluva dog to give a good show on a fit hare in small fields with law given. ive taken a few but my dogs are rabbit dogs and a hare course used to be the equivalent of six rabbits so there was no point. my hare chasing days were pre ban by about ten years, if i see a hare in a field i will leash the dogs these days its just not worth the hassle and often the farmers quite like them if there is only a few so why upset them. Permission isnt easily got. cant believe your knocking something that has been done for hundreds of years,each to their own though eh pal Quote Link to post
the pikey poacher 1,157 Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 i have ran them all imo fallow and roe are easier to catch than a hare but you try catching them chinese water deer them feckers can run and there turning ability is awesome ive had real good coursing dogs not be able to catch um Quote Link to post
Guest joe ox Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 (edited) apart from that it must be one of the most cruel uses of dogs. i have no time for it or people who do it. Your best off going onto a bunny huggers forum, with comments like the above your certainly on the wrong one here Edited June 5, 2010 by joe ox Quote Link to post
lamping-lad 160 Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 nothing hard about taking deer a decent sized game dog will do it no problem, apart from that it must be one of the most cruel uses of dogs. i have no time for it or people who do it. i have never been into hare coursing but have run a few in my time and it takes a helluva dog to give a good show on a fit hare in small fields with law given. ive taken a few but my dogs are rabbit dogs and a hare course used to be the equivalent of six rabbits so there was no point. my hare chasing days were pre ban by about ten years, if i see a hare in a field i will leash the dogs these days its just not worth the hassle and often the farmers quite like them if there is only a few so why upset them. Permission isnt easily got. Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 in wooded areas ive seen a staff catch fallow pre-ban Only the odd ones i bet. Quote Link to post
Trigger 26 Posted June 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 (edited) nothing hard about taking deer a decent sized game dog will do it no problem, apart from that it must be one of the most cruel uses of dogs. i have no time for it or people who do it. i have never been into hare coursing but have run a few in my time and it takes a helluva dog to give a good show on a fit hare in small fields with law given. ive taken a few but my dogs are rabbit dogs and a hare course used to be the equivalent of six rabbits so there was no point. my hare chasing days were pre ban by about ten years, if i see a hare in a field i will leash the dogs these days its just not worth the hassle and often the farmers quite like them if there is only a few so why upset them. Permission isnt easily got. why do you say that taking deer with a dog is cruel? i dont understand why people bang on about it being cruel. if you had 2 deer parks with 100 deer in each and you went into one with a riffle and the other with a dog every day for 2 months allowing a dog 2 slips only and the riffle man 2 shots, i bet you the deer in the park the dog as run every day as more deer in it than the park thats been shot in, and i bet they are a dam site healthier. i dont see how its that cruel for the deer averall. jmo Edited June 5, 2010 by Trigger Quote Link to post
the pikey poacher 1,157 Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 frankie boyle no wonder you have only put up 14 posts anti springs to mind but just my opinion Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 nothing hard about taking deer a decent sized game dog will do it no problem, apart from that it must be one of the most cruel uses of dogs. i have no time for it or people who do it. i have never been into hare coursing but have run a few in my time and it takes a helluva dog to give a good show on a fit hare in small fields with law given. ive taken a few but my dogs are rabbit dogs and a hare course used to be the equivalent of six rabbits so there was no point. my hare chasing days were pre ban by about ten years, if i see a hare in a field i will leash the dogs these days its just not worth the hassle and often the farmers quite like them if there is only a few so why upset them. Permission isnt easily got. why do you say that taking deer with a dog is cruel? i dont understand why people bang on about it being cruel. I know wat you mean i think its people who have never done it and just go on wat they have read or heard imho its the most natrual form of hunting known to man and one that setts the adrenelin flowing like no other.Nature its self is cruel and takeing deer with dogs is way down the list of cruel acts in natrual behaviour in nature its self.atb dell Quote Link to post
frankie boyle 0 Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 lolololol is it silly season on here... [bANNED TEXT] i actually go out with my dogs instead of being on this all the time lololololol anti ya knob lololololol if you look at my reply i quoted the other persons views and put mine at bottom :doh: :doh: Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 did you mean old? regardless of their age they panic and in densely wooded area's and smash into things and get caught up,in the open during the day it would be very different imo No i ment the odd one's .Those i have seen [bANNED TEXT] they hit woods and dont panic just seem to glide through in leaps and bounds usually leaving the dog standing. Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 nothing hard about taking deer a decent sized game dog will do it no problem, apart from that it must be one of the most cruel uses of dogs. i have no time for it or people who do it. Its irrelavent now as there off the quarry list but for you to say any decent sized dog will do it and its cruel questions who you saw doing it, must of been amatuer hour. Why is it cruel compared to a lurcher chasing and retreiving a rabbit............. Oh, and back on topic, hare......... Quote Link to post
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