Lost permission!!

[Bradford Lad 74]

Hi everyone,

 

Having now zero'd my rifle i called round to one of my permission's i have at some stables, i was met by the new tennant who went on to explain that she didnt agree with controlling rabbits,they were'nt causing any problems and that i neednt bother going back not even to ferret!!

 

To say i'm p****d off is an understatement, the place is litterally 100yards from my house and its heaving with rabbits and by far my best permission.

The land belongs to a farmer and i'm thinking of approaching him and asking for the permission, what do you guys reckon?

 

Cheers BL

[andyfr1968 772]

Go for it, mate!!

 

The land owner's legaly bound to keep vermin under control, one way or another.

 

You've nothing to lose by asking, best of luck.

 

Cheers.

[Buster321c 1,010]

Just remind her that a horse with a broken leg is useless ...........

 

and that its a legal requirement of the land owner to control rabbits on his land .....

[romany52 313]

Hi everyone,

 

Having now zero'd my rifle i called round to one of my permission's i have at some stables, i was met by the new tennant who went on to explain that she didnt agree with controlling rabbits,they were'nt causing any problems and that i neednt bother going back not even to ferret!!

 

To say i'm p****d off is an understatement, the place is litterally 100yards from my house and its heaving with rabbits and by far my best permission.

The land belongs to a farmer and i'm thinking of approaching him and asking for the permission, what do you guys reckon?

 

Cheers BL

 

I think the tenant has the right to control rabbits, unless those rights are signed over by the tenant. Now I don't no if this works in reverse, ie, if the tenant fails to control rabbits the responsibility may ultimately lie with the land owner, I would think he has the power to insist the rabbits are controlled on his land. I would definitely have a word.

[venomviper 129]

hi ya buddy

sorry to here that and KARMA matey as you lose one another will come plus if the place gets over run with rabbits you can always go back and mention it to them that they need to control vermin and rabbits are vermin buddy

but go for it matey with the new land and lets us know how you get on buddy

 

shay

[The one 8,511]

Aye just wait till a horse puts its hoof down a rabbit hole it wont be long till there phoning you ! mate

[Bradford Lad 74]

I will go see the farmer but i'm just wary of falling out with the tennant, i can see me sat there with my rifle and then being surronded by cops after the tennant phones them to say i'm on the land without her authority, she seemed the smarmy type who would call them even if the farmer gave me permission!!

 

Fooking towny who know's nowt about how things are done in the countryside

 

Anyway i've made my mind up to take a day off next week and visit a many farms as i can for some permission, i'm down to 2 after losing this one

[othickman 6]

But anyway, yeah I would say you should go for it, you might be able to keep your permission and even if he says no so what? You've got nothing to lose.

Edited June 4, 2010 by othickman

[Buster321c 1,010]

The land owner's legaly bound to keep vermin under control, one way or another.

 

and that its a legal requirement of the land owner to control rabbits on his land .....

 

It's not any more; it used to be but it was revoked a couple of years back.

 

Legal status

Rabbits can be important in maintaining plant diversity in a range of habitats, but they can also cause significant damage.

 

All occupiers have statutory obligations regarding wild rabbits that are harbouring on their land.

 

An Order has been made under Section One of the Pests Act 1954 by which England and Wales (except for the City of London, the Isles of Scilly and Skokholm Island) have been declared a Rabbit Clearance Area. In this area, every occupier of land is responsible for controlling wild rabbits on his/her land or for taking steps to prevent them causing damage. This is a continuing obligation.

 

according to this - http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/ourwork/regulation/wildlife/species/rabbits.aspx#legal

[falcongit 242]

sorry to here about that mate but you will get some more in the near future bud...

 

sym

[Guest jt750]

The landowner is highly unlikely to sign his sporting rights over to a tenant i would ask the tenant if they have sporting rights and if they don't know go to the landowner and ask whether or not you can still go there

[Phantom 631]

Gutted for you BL

 

I would speak to the land owner, not the tennant and get it in writing.

 

If she gets stroppy, be polite and as Craig said the land owner and tennant have a legal obligation.

Let her know that a broken leg on a horse can cost thousands of pounds to have treated and if there are a lot of Corvids about sticking their beaks in the sh!te piles (and believe me they do) that the Corvids in the UK are now becomming increasingly agressive and attacks by them on livestock (this is how I got my 1st permissio) and horses. A beak through the hide or the eye (as the previous tennant on my permission observed) can and do lead to the loss of valuable horses.

 

Its easy to call the local police and let them know where and when you will be shooting and that the tennant may call to cause disruption to your 'WORK' and it is work, your are a legally appointed person of the landowner.

If she then does it it will be her in bother not you.

 

OTM:

 

Your thinking of the law that was repealed as of January this year that used to be used by a neighbouring land owner to force another land owner to deal with the pest.

It was repealed after it was only invoked a couple of times over the last decade.

They are still required by law to control them on their own land.

 

Phantom

[zini 1,939]

I wish you all the best buddy

 

Sorry to hear about the lost bit.

 

Si

[davyt63 1,845]

SNAP!!

[Bradford Lad 74]

Cheers for the advice lads, i'l give it a go with the land owner, like it's been said i've nothing to loose, stupid thing is one of my other two permissions is another stables 5 mins down the road and they love me being there doing the self and same thing!!