fellpack 7 Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Next year, if the pest control industry can’t prove the expertise in rodinticides, they will ban the use of it. What are the thoughts on this legislagation? Personally I think this will cause the pest control industry who have proved time and time again that they want the inexperienced, rather than professional. Is the pest control industry a money confidence trick? I would not let a person into my home if I felt they were not up to it, would you? Quote Link to post
Matt 160 Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Next year, if the pest control industry can’t prove the expertise in rodinticides, they will ban the use of it. What are the thoughts on this legislagation? Personally I think this will cause the pest control industry who have proved time and time again that they want the inexperienced, rather than professional. Is the pest control industry a money confidence trick? I would not let a person into my home if I felt they were not up to it, would you? Your post is not easy to understand, but I think you are talking about the proposal to withdraw anti-coagulant baits under the Biocides Directive. The proposal has been made by some-one who lives in a country where the sale of rodenticides is already closely controlled, and the Biocides Directive is supposed to be a way of 'harmonising' pesticide legislation across Europe. As for the pest control industry being a 'confidence trick', I think that is a groundless suggestion. Over the last twenty years the industry has become better trained, and although it is generally 'self regulating' the safety profile of the industry is very good. We still have a long way to go: the sale of professional use products to non-professionals is a problem, as is the fact that anyone can set up in business without being qualified. If you ever have any doubt about the qualification of a professional coming into your home, ask to see proof of training - those that have it are generally proud of it. Quote Link to post
venomviper 129 Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 hi ya buddy i worked on to houses and a flat this week and everytime i was asked to prove my qual's which i always keep with me so as mat say's if you want to check ask them for prove shay Quote Link to post
DUCKWING 302 Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 AS WITH THE VETS ..................... ITS A CON - MAN MONEY TRICK CANNOT BUY RAT POISON ....... !! ............. HELL........ ITS JUST A LICENCE TO PRINT MONEY NO DOUBT THERES SOME " PROFESSIONAL " ???? PEST CONTROL COMPANIES BEHIND THE SUGGESTION DUCKWING Quote Link to post
Matt 160 Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 AS WITH THE VETS ..................... ITS A CON - MAN MONEY TRICK CANNOT BUY RAT POISON ....... !! ............. HELL........ ITS JUST A LICENCE TO PRINT MONEY NO DOUBT THERES SOME " PROFESSIONAL " ???? PEST CONTROL COMPANIES BEHIND THE SUGGESTION DUCKWING No, Duckwing, the pest control industry are campaigning to keep all of our existing anti-coagulant baits available. As for pest control being a 'license to print money'; given the number of unprofitable pest control businesses out there (as anyone who has tried to make a living will confirm), I don't think that is the case. The problem is that in some EU countries they have a very different attitude to rodenticides, and their use is restricted in countries like Norway to licences professionals only. I think that most pest controllers support some sort of further control on the sales of pesticides (or at least the enforcement of the current rules) because we see so much misuse of baits by members of the public. There is no doubt that there is a perceived problem with secondary poisoning, and that too is influencing the law makers. Currently in the UK the use of pesticides is governed by COPRA (the control of pesticides regulations), but we are (over a period of years) changing over to the Biocides Directive, which is supposed to 'harmonise' the legislation across the EU. The problem is that some EU countries have little or no restrictions on the use of pesticides, while others have very tight legislation. I understand that the suggestion to remove all anti-coagulants was made by a German MEP. Hopefully common sense will prevail. Quote Link to post
Dakaras 3 Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Certainly some control over some rodenticides to the general public would help, went to a have a go myself house the other day....Asked what he had been using (scattered round the inside of sheds and stables like bird food) and he produced an empty 5kg bucket of a grain bait containing flocoumafen. When I pointed out to him it was for indoor use only the reply was "Well it is indoors" I then went to point out that ment the rodents living and feeding indoors, not living in the hedge and raiding his stables....Just didnt get it.. What the Green MEP is proposing is down right daft Quote Link to post
Matt 160 Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Grain bait containing Foucoumafen? I thought that was only available in block formulations (Storm) ? What was the name of the product? Quote Link to post
fellpack 7 Posted June 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Grain bait containing Foucoumafen? I thought that was only available in block formulations (Storm) ? What was the name of the product? been on a few farms dealing with rats and have to say a few blocks of posion dont do it thats why I asked the question can we do without posions i think and its only my thought so no offence guys if seen perfect reporting and the best setup money can buy but no common sense to the job at hand. Many places I go i find baits unmanaged and years old were are the traceability like i say nt having a go Quote Link to post
trappa 518 Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Just to add my tuppence, i think that there needs to be a massive overhaul in the public getting access to poison. Ive seen too many people using poison (anticoagulants) illegaly, and i think its shocking any landowner can get his hands on aluminium phosphide. It needs sorting. Plus too many stores are selling stuff that is no good but the public dont have a clue. It needs sorting out, regardless of whether the pest companies make money or not. Quote Link to post
Dakaras 3 Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Sorry Matt was a Storm bucket....I had an early finish and a good few beers when I typed that, but was grain bait spread around the areas, he had been given it "By a mate". Also had hexagonal blocks scattered around which Im assuming must be the storm. Had another yesterday a bag of grain bait which was unmarked abandoned in an outbuilding which whilst around the back of a pub had no locks on the doors or info on the bait on the bag. Current landlord doesnt have a clue where it came from. Quote Link to post
fellpack 7 Posted June 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Just to add my tuppence, i think that there needs to be a massive overhaul in the public getting access to poison. Ive seen too many people using poison (anticoagulants) illegaly, and i think its shocking any landowner can get his hands on aluminium phosphide. It needs sorting. Plus too many stores are selling stuff that is no good but the public dont have a clue. It needs sorting out, regardless of whether the pest companies make money or not. some of the big pc sell there products to the public its a crazy set up how much posion is out there unknown waiting for a victim Quote Link to post
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