prey posession?

[ROB.BOB 21]

lately my 7 month lab has been a bit of a twat!

his retriving was getting better, but in the past few days he's started f*****g off with the dummy!

i started his retriving in a chickenwire alley kind of thing in the garden but as soon as i stand back from the entrance or give him a retrive out of it he pisses off with it and runs round the garden with it (our garden is very big) and he try to turn it into a game of me chasing him!

 

when he bring a retrive to me he gets his tummy scratched for a bit then i take the dummy and then he gets a biscuit! i dont get why he dosen't want to come back with it!?! i took me best part of 5-10 mins to get it off him today!

should i try a check line? any other ideas would be good!

[romany52 313]

lately my 7 month lab has been a bit of a twat!

his retriving was getting better, but in the past few days he's started f*****g off with the dummy!

i started his retriving in a chickenwire alley kind of thing in the garden but as soon as i stand back from the entrance or give him a retrive out of it he pisses off with it and runs round the garden with it (our garden is very big) and he try to turn it into a game of me chasing him!

 

when he bring a retrive to me he gets his tummy scratched for a bit then i take the dummy and then he gets a biscuit! i dont get why he dosen't want to come back with it!?! i took me best part of 5-10 mins to get it off him today!

should i try a check line? any other ideas would be good!

 

Does he not recall or drop to the whistle mate. If not I wouldn't be doing retrieve training yet.

[Lab 10,979]

A gundog should never be taught to drop to the whistle, no use if it brings back a runner and drops it. Think your pup might not no who the boss is yet, get that sorted and all will fall into place.

[romany52 313]

A gundog should never be taught to drop to the whistle, no use if it brings back a runner and drops it. Think your pup might not no who the boss is yet, get that sorted and all will fall into place.

 

Doh ! when I say drop, I don't mean drop the feckin dummy , I mean stop and get down.

Edited May 26, 2010 by romany52

[Lab 10,979]

A gundog should never be taught to drop to the whistle, no use if it brings back a runner and drops it. Think your pup might not no who the boss is yet, get that sorted and all will fall into place.

 

Doh ! when I say drop, I don't mean drop the feckin dummy , I mean stop and get down.

Maybe a person asking for advice wouldn't know that mate. Av seen plenty people at shoots telling there dogs to drop birds at there feet and they do and they spend 2 mins running about a field after a bird looking like a right tit.

[romany52 313]

A gundog should never be taught to drop to the whistle, no use if it brings back a runner and drops it. Think your pup might not no who the boss is yet, get that sorted and all will fall into place.

 

Doh ! when I say drop, I don't mean drop the feckin dummy , I mean stop and get down.

Maybe a person asking for advice wouldn't know that mate. Av seen plenty people at shoots telling there dogs to drop birds at there feet and they do and they spend 2 mins running about a field after a bird looking like a right tit.

 

What I was getting at mate, was the need to get the basics drilled in before starting the retrieve training, had he got the recall 100%, he wouldn't have the problem, also if they slip up on the recall ,if you drop them on the whistle first, they're much more likely to obey the recall from that position.

[nercwys 10]

Dont run after him thats where your going wrong mate.

Turn your back on him and dont say a thing and keep looking the other way.

Whatever you do dont chase him about.

Oh and by the way im no expert but it worked for me.

This advice was given to me by someone off, www.gundogtrainingforum.com loads of info on there mate

[eli 0]

Dont run after him thats where your going wrong mate.

Turn your back on him and dont say a thing and keep looking the other way.

Whatever you do dont chase him about.

Oh and by the way im no expert but it worked for me.

This advice was given to me by someone off, www.gundogtrainingforum.com loads of info on there mate

well i am training a young cocker at min and have had springers in the past try recall if no joy recsll agen but this time walk away if he still dont come keep walkin and callin in the end they get the drift this as worked for me in the past may be foke have other ways but it may work for you and dont lose your rag just work on one problem at atime

[ROB.BOB 21]

Dont run after him thats where your going wrong mate.

Turn your back on him and dont say a thing and keep looking the other way.

Whatever you do dont chase him about.

Oh and by the way im no expert but it worked for me.

This advice was given to me by someone off, www.gundogtrainingforum.com loads of info on there mate

 

i dont chase him, i walked to the other end of the garden & sat down, he came looking for me eventually but wouldnt come close, he then buggered off again and chewed sevral holes in the dummy!

[romany52 313]

Dont run after him thats where your going wrong mate.

Turn your back on him and dont say a thing and keep looking the other way.

Whatever you do dont chase him about.

Oh and by the way im no expert but it worked for me.

This advice was given to me by someone off, www.gundogtrainingforum.com loads of info on there mate

 

i dont chase him, i walked to the other end of the garden & sat down, he came looking for me eventually but wouldnt come close, he then buggered off again and chewed sevral holes in the dummy!

 

Go back to basics mate ,get the recall rock solid.

[nercwys 10]

Dont run after him thats where your going wrong mate.

Turn your back on him and dont say a thing and keep looking the other way.

Whatever you do dont chase him about.

Oh and by the way im no expert but it worked for me.

This advice was given to me by someone off, www.gundogtrainingforum.com loads of info on there mate

 

i dont chase him, i walked to the other end of the garden & sat down, he came looking for me eventually but wouldnt come close, he then buggered off again and chewed sevral holes in the dummy!

 

Go back to basics mate ,get the recall rock solid.

 

 

Yep prob the best thing to do if you have tried everything els.

[upperlane2 4]

try this get ur shot gun out point it at him and say if u dont F@@KING bring that F@@KING dummie back illF@@KING do u in. If that dosent work ull have to get ur self a good dogtraining book and start at the start personally i wouldnt worry lab dogs are very puppish sometimes up till 2 years off age enjoy him as a pup first wats the rush. By the way is he gundog bred and were his parents slow 2 mature???????? ATB

[ROB.BOB 21]

try this get ur shot gun out point it at him and say if u dont F@@KING bring that F@@KING dummie back illF@@KING do u in. If that dosent work ull have to get ur self a good dogtraining book and start at the start personally i wouldnt worry lab dogs are very puppish sometimes up till 2 years off age enjoy him as a pup first wats the rush. By the way is he gundog bred and were his parents slow 2 mature???????? ATB

 

his dad is still quite ouppish at times not just with snow fever (he's hilariouse with snow ) but he has a sertain puppish atitude to him... which i like! i dont know how old he is though at the least 3

 

but today i did what the book called reverse traning (sit the dog down, give them the dummy, walk away however far & call them to you) out in the open and he did it really well so i gave him a normal retrive which he did very well!

[upperlane2 4]

try this get ur shot gun out point it at him and say if u dont F@@KING bring that F@@KING dummie back illF@@KING do u in. If that dosent work ull have to get ur self a good dogtraining book and start at the start personally i wouldnt worry lab dogs are very puppish sometimes up till 2 years off age enjoy him as a pup first wats the rush. By the way is he gundog bred and were his parents slow 2 mature???????? ATB

 

his dad is still quite ouppish at times not just with snow fever (he's hilariouse with snow ) but he has a sertain puppish atitude to him... which i like! i dont know how old he is though at the least 3

 

but today i did what the book called reverse traning (sit the dog down, give them the dummy, walk away however far & call them to you) out in the open and he did it really well so i gave him a normal retrive which he did very well!

a bit of advice if he does it wrong put him on lead take it home and try again next nite dont try and force it to him at his age.patience and repetive boring training is the secret of all the good gundogs the fancy stuff should come naturally ATB

[activeviii 8]

long lead and short retrieves. bailing twine will even do for a lead.

 

throw dummy a few feet and then send dog. once picked up give the recall. if he returns then great if not you need to guild him in with the lead. dont yank the lead, the aim is just to guild him in but trying to do with out force or you might end up with a spit. he will get the idea. once he know where he should be then you can give a little more length or retrieve. it might take a while but it should work out for you.

 

have a quick think. if your misses wants you to look as something in the shop window what would you do if she grabbed yous arm and tried to yank you over for a look, you probably would pull back and tell her to go forth and multiply, i wouldn't as my wife would beat the cr4p out me but i would not be happy about it and would be moody for a while. however, if she was to hold my jacket and soft and gentle, lead me to her for a look i would find it funny and go for a look.

 

 

i not great at typing what im thinking so i hope you get the idea.

 

 

all the bast

 

Phil