Bullseye

[zini 1,939]

Point taken mate

 

I agree pal that there is always someone about; usually antis that want to try and turn our words around to their own advantage.

 

Don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story so they say.

 

It’s a shame when it happens, especially to a regular in this section because the lads and girl (Shannon) on here now are all responsible shooters and know their own individual capabilities, and would never intentionally wound a legal quarry species.

 

I’ve been on the forum since 06 and in this section a little over 2 years maybe and the regulars in this section are the best bunch of lads and lasses that I can remember them ever being.

 

Si

[venomviper 129]

hi ya buddy

i also agree with si on this one and to be honest archie has been on here for a while and i think he knows what he is doing and has some very good posts as well. and i use shotguns to and i have seen people just blasting off the 12 bores at rabbits on the run hummm very sportsman like, at least with the rifle you can take that poa and make the kill instead of filling the rabbit with lead.

 

shay

[Phantom 631]

You aimed at the Rabbits eye ???

Did you puposely want to injure the RABBIT ???

 

 

I doubt that he did!

I have often taken a shot through a rabbits eye, as Si say's Archie is an excellent Marksman and without wishing to blow my own trumpet to loudly, so am I

However I have never and I am sure that any quality Marksman including Archie has never aimed at an eye directly side on that would be just plain stupid and just damn wrong

As Si mentioned this bunny would be at an angle rather than parallel to Archies gun

 

 

 

All the advice given when a newbire asks about rabbit shooting is a brain shot, an eye shot is a bad headshot as It's a non lethal area.

Ok so it does kill a rabbit as you have shown but not the best thing to boast about.

I shoot rabbits & aim at a non lethal area.

I shoot Rabbits in a non lethal area & boast about it.

Every one to their own but if you was my shooting buddy, you wouldn't be for long.

This gives the area for a rabbits kill zone.

If you can hit a non lethal area then you can also hit a lethal area.

Bad practice to start with, not good in many others mind & if anti's wanted any ammunition for banning air guns the RSPCA would love this.

Air gunners maim innocent animals.

The papers are full of stuff like that & you boast about it ?

Thanks but no thanks.

Kill Zone for a Rabbit.

 

 

I agree with what you say there about teaching new shooters exactly where to shoot

We of course were all new once, and now most of us experianced hunters and pest controllers have learned as we have gone along that sometimes an "unorthodox" shot can be taken, if :-

 

1/. we have the knowladge to know where to put the lead.

2/. We are a competent Marksman and

3/. We are confident we can pull off the shot--

A- without causing the animal to suffer and

B- we know that our equipment will enable us to do so.

 

Once we can match those three criteria in one, what seem like difficult or even impossible shots to a new hunter can be done with ease.

 

I also agree with what both you and Si saw about the headline hunters 'not letting the truth get in the way of a good paper seller story'

 

As for the RSPCA, they are under great scruitiny themselves just lately as they seem to be killing an abnormally high number of household pet moggies which are clearly domesticated, but they say are Ferral

 

Phantom

[theinvisiblescarecrow 0]

Ok Lads.

Fully agree with many of the words if not all.

Been there & done that.

I'll be very specific as I certainly don't want to still be moaning just for the sake of it just drop in what I think is a valid point.

Many .243 shooters hit a rabbit & it explodes, thing is that's humane even if people think it's disgusting & a horrible way for a soft furry creature to go to heaven.

It's humane & not even the RSPCA will argue for cruelty.

Thing is Fox Hunting has gone, torn to bits while still alive fuelled it, so has hunting with dogs.

Our rights for guns have slowly gone & still under threat.

What I disagree with & I quote

I put the crosshairs on his eye and KERPANGI saw his eye pop out through the scopes.

If the wrong person saw this, quoted it & made headline news the rest of the post wouldn't be heard, our cries of but It was a humane shot would fall by the wayside, no one would hear that part.

Any one who has been in court will know the question method well.

Did you aim at the Rabbits eye ? from the quote above the answer is yes the eye is not a lethal target.

It matters not the pellet entered the brain, the POI was the non lethal eye.

If the animal cruelty guys got this sort of thing into court someones balls would be squeezed so hard blood would squirt from the ears.

Tell me to FO for being an anorak dribbling nonsence if you like.

I've been haveing restrictions forced upon me since I first started shooting.

I once had the privalage of being able to walk around country roads with a rimfire, no slip or restrictions we have today.

Why have the good old days gone.

Someone said the wrong thing to the wrong person at the wrong time.

Strange thing is, with a slight change of words I would of said good shooting.

Edited May 25, 2010 by theinvisiblescarecrow

[Sweeney-Todd 208]

Hi All.

 

ANYBODY that hunt's with an Air rifle or HMR, can NEVER guarentee a so called perfect head shot.

We are shooting at a living animal, NOT a paper target.

No amount of care by the shooter can guarentee the quarry will not move, even the slightest movement can put the best Marksmans shot off the mark a little.

 

All responsible hunters go for a clean kill, but sometimes, it just does not happen.

 

If a shooter misses the mark due to the target moving, the shooter will dispatch the wounded quarry with urgency, and efficeientcy.

 

No blame should be directed at anybody for such a shot, as we are

ALL liable to get a few.... sad but true.

 

 

Bill.

[zini 1,939]

Well said Bill

 

I cant agree more pal

 

Si

[davyt63 1,845]

hi

are you a friend of j davies

[falcongit 242]

wow,this a strong subject,i see someones got a point to put across,lifes to short fellas.....just enjoy....nice shooting archie

 

sym

 

 

[ArchieHood 3,692]

To put this one to bed,the shot I took was bang on perfect.The position of the rabbit and where I was meant the best aim point for a kill was its eye and straight through its brain,hence the title Bullseye.I put up the post and got 8 positive replys by regulars who all share their experiences on this forum, then 1 negative post by someone who offers this section nothing, who knows nothing about us but who deems to be a leading authority on what we do and how we do it, the word bajingo comes to mind.

I will continue to do what I do and post when I do it until I am told otherwise.Thanks for the PMs lads you know who you are. AH

 

 

 

All opinions are welcome but not always accepted.

[falcongit 242]

To put this one to bed,the shot I took was bang on perfect.The position of the rabbit and where I was meant the best aim point for a kill was its eye and straight through its brain,hence the title Bullseye.I put up the post and got 8 positive replys by regulars who all share their experiences on this forum, then 1 negative post by someone who offers this section nothing, who knows nothing about us but who deems to be a leading authority on what we do and how we do it, the word bajingo comes to mind.

I will continue to do what I do and post when I do it until I am told otherwise.Thanks for the PMs lads you know who you are. AH

 

 

 

All opinions are welcome but not always accepted.

 

well put bud.

 

sym

[theinvisiblescarecrow 0]

To put this one to bed,the shot I took was bang on perfect.The position of the rabbit and where I was meant the best aim point for a kill was its eye and straight through its brain,hence the title Bullseye.I put up the post and got 8 positive replys by regulars who all share their experiences on this forum, then 1 negative post by someone who offers this section nothing, who knows nothing about us but who deems to be a leading authority on what we do and how we do it, the word bajingo comes to mind.

I will continue to do what I do and post when I do it until I am told otherwise.Thanks for the PMs lads you know who you are. AH

 

 

 

All opinions are welcome but not always accepted.

Couldn't agree more but you'r not respecting my side of it.

Worse your argueing against it ?????

Because of a gun being used the wrong way we now have to have a firearms licence.

Because licenced guns were being used the wrong way we have more restrictions than ever.

Because people don't like fox hunting we lost not only foxing with hounds but other dog hunting as well.

Air gun ban talk for scotland etc etc etc.

You have the right to shoot rabbits with air rifles by the skin of your teeth.

Everyone on here hunts so fair enough to post about such things but on "general" forums other gun owners that only target shoot wouldn't like it.

Bunch of a/h's ???

Your now moaning about one gobby guy.

Fear the guy who doesn't reply but just reads with malace intent.

Put another way.

Thick chav with B2 reads post, as brain slowly kicks in he lumbers off & shoots some kids pet rabbit in the eye, why not It's the glory thing to do.

RSPCA gets satisfactory court case & next thing you know sub 12ftb air rifles are suddenly a no no.

Ban or licence ????

It'll never happen ????

There will never ever never be a time when a licenced gun owner walks into a school - they will never ever ban pistols.

Just where did that idiot get inspiration from to do that awfull thing.

All I'm saying is, choose words carefully other wise shite & fan one day will come together.

[theinvisiblescarecrow 0]

An old article.

Do you think forums are now not being looked at.

When an anti (they come in many forms) is about to stab you in the back there's no warning.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/lampers-are-the-thugs-of-the-countryside-550739.html

You can't say I didn't warn you.

Edited May 26, 2010 by theinvisiblescarecrow

[theinvisiblescarecrow 0]

Suddenly gone quiet.

Must of seen the link in here then.

http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=155824

Enemies lurk everywhere don't they.

And who reads papers that contain miss quotes, people that don't like us haveing guns.

Where do miss quotes come from ?

Who wants bans, people who don't like us haveing guns.

Where does the fuel for bans come from, from miss quotes adding to facts made from miss quotes.

As I said.

Suddenly gone quiet.

[Phantom 631]

As I said.

Suddenly gone quiet.

 

It would do if you'd stop rattling your cage buddy

 

We all agree with what you say about missquotes etc and headline grabbing, but you keep putting this to the top and more likely the anti's will see it

Now be a good invisible scarecrow and go invisible

 

Phantom

 

Now just to set the record straight, I'm not being off with yah bud, just think that a topic has its time and when its had its run, its had its run........

[ArchieHood 3,692]

Suddenly gone quiet.

Must of seen the link in here then.

http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=155824

Enemies lurk everywhere don't they.

And who reads papers that contain miss quotes, people that don't like us haveing guns.

Where do miss quotes come from ?

Who wants bans, people who don't like us haveing guns.

Where does the fuel for bans come from, from miss quotes adding to facts made from miss quotes.

As I said.

Suddenly gone quiet.

 

Sorry I was not home when you posted but I work for a living.I have a life.