line breeding

[superkeeper 0]

Hi guys, i was reading riohog topic on genetics and line breeding popped up. i was just wondering if any one could explain to me what line/close breeding is and how you produce it.

 

cheers sk

[Leeview 791]

Hi guys, i was reading riohog topic on genetics and line breeding popped up. i was just wondering if any one could explain to me what line/close breeding is and how you produce it.

 

cheers sk

simplest form;Line breeding is where both parents have the same grandparent,sire or dam

Inbreeding: is a father daughter/mother son mating,giving the same topline as the bottom line in the pedigree

Y.I.S Leeview

[Mickey Finn 3,005]

I can't but this guy can.

 

http://www.westwindg...inebreeding.htm

 

ATB

[Romany 1,065]

Hi guys, i was reading riohog topic on genetics and line breeding popped up. i was just wondering if any one could explain to me what line/close breeding is and how you produce it.

 

cheers sk

simplest form;Line breeding is where both parents have the same grandparent,sire or dam

Inbreeding: is a father daughter/mother son mating,giving the same topline as the bottom line in the pedigree

Y.I.S Leeview

 

Not quite right, but I suppose on paper it could be seen as being correct, as it goes a lot deeper than that. For example, a dog produced by a grand parent to grand parent, can be, closer related genetically than a dog produced by a father to daughter mating..this is where everyone goes on to the internet to get the info on line and in-breeding

[Mickey Finn 3,005]

Hi guys, i was reading riohog topic on genetics and line breeding popped up. i was just wondering if any one could explain to me what line/close breeding is and how you produce it.

 

cheers sk

simplest form;Line breeding is where both parents have the same grandparent,sire or dam

Inbreeding: is a father daughter/mother son mating,giving the same topline as the bottom line in the pedigree

Y.I.S Leeview

 

Not quite right, but I suppose on paper it could be seen as being correct, as it goes a lot deeper than that. For example, a dog produced by a grand parent to grand parent, can be, closer related genetically than a dog produced by a father to daughter mating..this is where everyone goes on to the internet to get the info on line and in-breeding

You obviously have a firm grasp of it.

[foresterj 1,096]

if it works out its line breeding,if it doesnt its inbreeding.

[sniper 30]

It has known to throw good pups too, once done. i personally aint a lover of it. but i would so it, if the stud and bitch where, right.

[hogdog 61]

Line breeding is inbreeding but inbreeding is not neccassarily linebreeding.

 

There's alot of disagreement about what linebreeding is but the general concensus is that it's the practice of trying extract a large amount of genetic material from one male dog...say you have a brilliant male dog, you basically breed that dog as many times as you can within the same 'line' of dogs so that you get it to pass on it's genes. If you do the same with a bitch then some people call it family breeding. The technicalities of exactly how this breeding is done is much more difficult to get concensus on.

 

The term 'line' is often used very loosely to mean a certain breeder's stock or a certain 'type' within a breed, it might have nothing to do linebreeding as described above.

 

There is alot of inbreeding in these methods which means you have to be sure that the dog you're using is absolutely 100% healthy otherwise you run the risk of 'setting' genetic diseases and undesarible traits into your 'line'. It's a high risk strategy but can have good results if done right.

 

Every dog is inbred to a certain extent, the co-efficient of inbreeding rated in percentage is what counts because one man's inbred is another man's scatter bred...it comes down to semantics.

[artful212 394]

i agree wif hogdog

and well iv read harcombes book "work them hard treat them like heroes"

and although he doesnt really mention it he says if you hav a gene

or strain that works then keep it you dont need to outcross

this isnt his words but [bANNED TEXT] i made of it and its [bANNED TEXT] i intend to do

so it will become line breeding and inbreeding eventually

[Guest fence_hopper]

any one ever bred full brother and sister? just curiouse if anyones experienced it.

Edited May 26, 2010 by fence_hopper

[romany52 313]

any one ever bred full brother and sister? just curiouse if anyones experienced it.

 

Yes,I wanted to get a line that belonged to some rivals, someone well known had a very good coursing bitch, no way would they let me have a pup. Took me a few years but I eventually got my hands on an adult dog and bitch off the old bitch through third parties. I mated them together with no problems whatsoever and produced pups better than the parents, and very much resembling the old bitch. You need to remember , every time you out cross, your diluting your own stuff by 50%.

[hogdog 61]

I don't think you should attempt tight inbreeding/linebreeding unless you know the dog's ancestry and have an in depth knowledge of any health problems that you might be breeding in. There are other things to consider like smaller litter sizes and the dogs themselves becoming smaller. The ideal scenario is to breed dogs of similar type and different genes. Most breeds will have plenty of good breeding stock of the right type if you look hard enough so tight breeding is not really neccassary or worth the risk.