Gary Middleton Lakey

[The Breeder 156]

Dont know about Jack Russel, but what about the Wire haired fox terrier that Mr Middleton, and his mates were using on there lakeland bitchs to produce white dogs for showing.

nope ..

yep seen it with my own eyes.

It was a smooth fox terrier dog he put to a few lakeland / welsh terrier bitchs

[fordson 33]

well stig barkers terriers willkinsons terriers and every other terrier in that district that was working were classed as fell terriers,mongrels really,the lakeland terrier has been the showmans dog for generations,and dont be daft enough to think white lakelands are throwbacks from years ago they were manufactured for profit as l think yo allready know,the fell terrier of years ago is probably as rare as hens teeth,greed ruined the genuine working dogs in the fells .with a lot of money being offered for terriers from the lakes some hill farmers decided to sell terriers to keep an income in times long gone,now when you consider that a lot of these lakeland terrier breeders have a lot in common with the banjo playing boy in deliverance it is impossibe for anyone to have accurate records,and really a pedigree only helps if the dogs for sale.

[the_stig 6,614]

well feck me fox terrier welsh terrier and manufactured breeding

[the_stig 6,614]

Dont know about Jack Russel, but what about the Wire haired fox terrier that Mr Middleton, and his mates were using on there lakeland bitchs to produce white dogs for showing.

nope ..

yep seen it with my own eyes.

It was a smooth fox terrier dog he put to a few lakeland / welsh terrier bitchs

wher`nt the reason more to do with the loss of jacket than colour ? and they`d all been to ground ? Edited September 20, 2012 by the_stig

[gonetoearth 5,144]

well stig barkers terriers willkinsons terriers and every other terrier in that district that was working were classed as fell terriers,mongrels really,the lakeland terrier has been the showmans dog for generations,and dont be daft enough to think white lakelands are throwbacks from years ago they were manufactured for profit as l think yo allready know,the fell terrier of years ago is probably as rare as hens teeth,greed ruined the genuine working dogs in the fells .with a lot of money being offered for terriers from the lakes some hill farmers decided to sell terriers to keep an income in times long gone,now when you consider that a lot of these lakeland terrier breeders have a lot in common with the banjo playing boy in deliverance it is impossibe for anyone to have accurate records,and really a pedigree only helps if the dogs for sale.

. Bits of what you say are true. Bits are. Not. All. Make. For. Good. Tittle. Tattle. Though oh and there are still true fell about. Mongrels. Na. Cross breds. Yes.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Records of breeding are only as good as the people who kept them think a lot has been lost in the annals of time and the rock dogs have accredited to a lot of lines that just maybe was a bit of let's say artistic licence ,

. Just. For you fordy.

[Tam O'Void 297]

If a Working Strain dies out ,is it not down to the guys farther down the line ..than the Progenitor of said Line...

 

You obtain a Worker from a Working Line ...you either work and Test the Dog /Bitch .YOURSELF ,then carry on with the ones that make your "Grade" Surely

If you go to a Guy who'se "Grade " is a LOOKER ,then surely you cant blame The Progenitor of the LIne?,for Their failing ,but you sure can. USE his NAME

 

Might be bad logic on my Part but if the Owner of a Terrier that is up for being a Worker,Looks like he can't Walk the distance of himself....WELL...unless someone else is WORKING them for them I.M.O. I'd walk away..

[Moorside 642]

Jesus Fordys depressed me and totally changed my mind about keeping lakelands/fells apparently there all just mongrels. Cheers Fordy!!

[the_stig 6,614]

Dont know about Jack Russel, but what about the Wire haired fox terrier that Mr Middleton, and his mates were using on there lakeland bitchs to produce white dogs for showing.

nope ..

yep seen it with my own eyes.

It was a smooth fox terrier dog he put to a few lakeland / welsh terrier bitchs

i`m up there in a week i`ll ask him

[reddawn 2,173]

iv asked gm aboot the welsh an fox terriers he used in person, an by all acounts the dogs were getting dig to, dont see why he would need to lie to me, was no money involved

[The lonesome boatman 20]

Dont know about Jack Russel, but what about the Wire haired fox terrier that Mr Middleton, and his mates were using on there lakeland bitchs to produce white dogs for showing.

nope ..

yep seen it with my own eyes.

It was a smooth fox terrier dog he put to a few lakeland / welsh terrier bitchs

i`m up there in a week i`ll ask him

show men breed show dogs, no other reason for breeding to welsh or fox terrier st

[the_stig 6,614]

Dont know about Jack Russel, but what about the Wire haired fox terrier that Mr Middleton, and his mates were using on there lakeland bitchs to produce white dogs for showing.

nope ..

yep seen it with my own eyes.

It was a smooth fox terrier dog he put to a few lakeland / welsh terrier bitchs

i`m up there in a week i`ll ask him

show men breed show dogs, no other reason for breeding to welsh or fox terrier st

no doubt he supplied the show people ... the welsh terriers he used came from working stock the fox terrier saw work and was put to white lakie bitchs ..

[chilli 381]

My dad used to go digging with him years ago as well as others ,then as it happens they didnt go out digging together for a few years . The next time they met up his dogs had totally changed in size & stamp ,me dad asked him what he had put in them to change the stamp . Gary said that he hadnt put anything different in them , so me dad left it at that . Me dad has often said to me that his dogs were bigger longer stronger dogs than the stuff he is well known for now .

[the_stig 6,614]

My dad used to go digging with him years ago as well as others ,then as it happens they didnt go out digging together for a few years . The next time they met up his dogs had totally changed in size & stamp ,me dad asked him what he had put in them to change the stamp . Gary said that he hadnt put anything different in them , so me dad left it at that . Me dad has often said to me that his dogs were bigger longer stronger dogs than the stuff he is well known for now .

when was this ? here was a trend for leggy strong terriers in the early 80s ..

[chilli 381]

My dad used to go digging with him years ago as well as others ,then as it happens they didnt go out digging together for a few years . The next time they met up his dogs had totally changed in size & stamp ,me dad asked him what he had put in them to change the stamp . Gary said that he hadnt put anything different in them , so me dad left it at that . Me dad has often said to me that his dogs were bigger longer stronger dogs than the stuff he is well known for now .

when was this ? here was a trend for leggy strong terriers in the early 80s ..

Through out the 70's & 's