morton 5,368 Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 I can,t be bothered trawling through the majority of this but for my tuppence worth,Gary went down the wrong road with his dogs many years ago,he attempted to rectify the problem at times but did like a looker,a lot of times to the detriment of the working side of his Lakeys.Ive owned a couple of honest workers bred from genuine Middleton terriers and have seen others that would have graced any working kennel,ive also seen some trash.The main problem with his breeding was the peddlars that jumped on the gravy train and attributed everything that entered a show,or pups advertised at inflated prices,as Middleton bred,its still going on today,such is the legacy of the name.With some of the pup prices now with Lakeys,especially north of Scotch Corner,who,s going to shell out that type of money for a pup that may only reach its potential in the show ring.yes i know,PLENTY. 1 Quote Link to post
dytkos 17,782 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Haven't seen him for over 20 years since I moved to Cornwall but I heard from several people that his dogs went too far down the show route and the dogs he used to create the strain originally have all had their breeding diluted. Big shame 'cos he used to breed workers that were lookers, not lookers that sometimes worked Cheers, D. Quote Link to post
The Breeder 156 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Haven't seen him for over 20 years since I moved to Cornwall but I heard from several people that his dogs went too far down the show route and the dogs he used to create the strain originally have all had their breeding diluted. Big shame 'cos he used to breed workers that were lookers, not lookers that sometimes worked Cheers, D. Like i have said be for Gary bred some very good workers dog and bitchs back in the 70/80 but now i do not know but a lot of lads work his line very hard 1 Quote Link to post
the_stig 6,614 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 gary middleton has done more for the working lakeland than anyone else in this country has or ever will -- of late a lot of his gear is show stuff so be it but overall in 40 year or more of putting the effort into the breed i dont think you can knock the man ... his like may never be seen again .. 4 Quote Link to post
The Breeder 156 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 gary middleton has done more for the working lakeland than anyone else in this country has or ever will -- of late a lot of his gear is show stuff so be it but overall in 40 year or more of putting the effort into the breed i dont think you can knock the man ... his like may never be seen again .. 1 Quote Link to post
Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Does Mr dewhurst still breed a nice working dog? Quote Link to post
mad for it 62 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 some of the best dogs i have worked with are middleton terrier the red dog i dug for 8 season and never let us down Quote Link to post
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 how dare you have working lookers you know its not allowed Quote Link to post
hedz31 1,308 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Hell of alot worse out there of the older big name's than gary middleton 2 Quote Link to post
Bryan 1,362 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 How can anyone breeding with even half an eye on looks be seen as preserving a working breed? If that were true we should be thanking KC breeders for all the great work they've done for fox ,west highlands, scottish, cairn, sealyham,manchester etc. etc. etc. terriers 1 Quote Link to post
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 How can anyone breeding with even half an eye on looks be seen as preserving a working breed? If that were true we should be thanking KC breeders for all the great work they've done for fox ,west highlands, scottish, cairn, sealyham,manchester etc. etc. etc. terriers SO ONLY UGLY TERRIERS WORK Quote Link to post
Bryan 1,362 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 (edited) How can anyone breeding with even half an eye on looks be seen as preserving a working breed? If that were true we should be thanking KC breeders for all the great work they've done for fox ,west highlands, scottish, cairn, sealyham,manchester etc. etc. etc. terriers SO ONLY UGLY TERRIERS WORK No, looks has nothing to do with it. When you breed for looks you compromise,that's were the road splits. Edited April 26, 2012 by Bryan 2 Quote Link to post
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 How can anyone breeding with even half an eye on looks ill will repeat so only ugly terriers work , , you wrote the above not i , Quote Link to post
stop.end 4,079 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 i dont see ugly terriers in that quote...... Quote Link to post
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