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have a look at nick valentines rabbiting pack'' he runs about 20 pluss dogs when hes out'hunting..griffon vandeens.. beagle crosses.. teckel crosses..he even runs full p/b with the pack.. have a look how many spaniels' he runs with them' springer or cocker''' none' am not knocking spaniels here there good dogs' with out a doubt iv got people that come out with the pack'ov small hound crosses me n my mate run with the lurchers.. thave brought there spaniels n thay can graft deffo' but thay couldnt live with the work rate these bushing dogs get through' iv seen it with my own eyes many times'' n to say thay could hunt a charlie on a line' for may be 15/20 mins till its found'.. like these hounds can'' iv not seen one do it yet.. wev got 3 spaniel x beagle x here there about 11mth.. thats for anouther post though..ATB.B

Spaniels arnt realy a pack dog and their method of hunting has been developed to hunt mainly to flush they will follow a line but nothing like an hound type dog will or some terriers.The lad who started the topic was asking about one dog for bushing wich imho i would have though a springer would be a better type than a natrual pack type dog.atb dell

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rubbish.if the gap in cover isnt big enough my spaniel will make it bigger just by charging through it.if the spaniel dont wanna go in its cos thiers feck all in there.a good working springer will tac

seen a couple of springer x patterdale dogs round my way.real smart looking animal.bet they can do the thick stuff.

I've worked borders , pats ,fells, lakelands, russels, and a mate had both smooth and wire fox terriers plus crosses. All worked very well but they would never better a small springer. Anybody who has

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mate of mine has a beddy russel x.picks up and works cover at th local shoot.kills fox above and below with extreme venom and i once saw him catch a rabbit on the lamp.great dog.you will get em in all breeds but imo safest most bidable bet is the springer.but if you love that yobbo terrier attitude like i do go that way.or terrier springer x.good luck making your mind up im even questioning meself now lol. :thumbs:

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have a look at nick valentines rabbiting pack'' he runs about 20 pluss dogs when hes out'hunting..griffon vandeens.. beagle crosses.. teckel crosses..he even runs full p/b with the pack.. have a look how many spaniels' he runs with them' springer or cocker''' none' am not knocking spaniels here there good dogs' with out a doubt iv got people that come out with the pack'ov small hound crosses me n my mate run with the lurchers.. thave brought there spaniels n thay can graft deffo' but thay couldnt live with the work rate these bushing dogs get through' iv seen it with my own eyes many times'' n to say thay could hunt a charlie on a line' for may be 15/20 mins till its found'.. like these hounds can'' iv not seen one do it yet.. wev got 3 spaniel x beagle x here there about 11mth.. thats for anouther post though..ATB.B

Spaniels arnt realy a pack dog and their method of hunting has been developed to hunt mainly to flush they will follow a line but nothing like an hound type dog will or some terriers.The lad who started the topic was asking about one dog for bushing wich imho i would have though a springer would be a better type than a natrual pack type dog.atb dell

yes u could be right mate'' but if ur doing charlie work' n a lot ov it' the hound crosses r the tool for the job' provided thay are schooled n brought on right...ATB.B

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have a look at nick valentines rabbiting pack'' he runs about 20 pluss dogs when hes out'hunting..griffon vandeens.. beagle crosses.. teckel crosses..he even runs full p/b with the pack.. have a look how many spaniels' he runs with them' springer or cocker''' none' am not knocking spaniels here there good dogs' with out a doubt iv got people that come out with the pack'ov small hound crosses me n my mate run with the lurchers.. thave brought there spaniels n thay can graft deffo' but thay couldnt live with the work rate these bushing dogs get through' iv seen it with my own eyes many times'' n to say thay could hunt a charlie on a line' for may be 15/20 mins till its found'.. like these hounds can'' iv not seen one do it yet.. wev got 3 spaniel x beagle x here there about 11mth.. thats for anouther post though..ATB.B

Spaniels arnt realy a pack dog and their method of hunting has been developed to hunt mainly to flush they will follow a line but nothing like an hound type dog will or some terriers.The lad who started the topic was asking about one dog for bushing wich imho i would have though a springer would be a better type than a natrual pack type dog.atb dell

yes u could be right mate'' but if ur doing charlie work' n a lot ov it' the hound crosses r the tool for the job' provided thay are schooled n brought on right...ATB.B

I would agree 100 pct with you on that onethumbs.gif

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the comment I made was a" terrier or small dog,"the lad said he was getting a beddy whippet for bushing?a springer,cocker,border,etc all fall within this remit,its each to their own but I personally like to use terriers as thats what I own,the people I hunt with all keep terriers and we have a very high success rate of catch,we all keep the dogs of our choice but that doesn't mean yours is better than mine or vice,versa,if your happy with it then carry on,its whatever your personal experience and choice is,there is only so many dogs a person can keep fully worked and kennelled,I keep good allround dogs that work for me of the breed that I like,its down to personnal choice at the end of the day so long as they push cover hard we all get the same result,I haven't heard one of you experts so quick to criticise tell the lad that asked the question a beddy whippet is not the dog for the job,yis,wirralman

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the comment I made was a" terrier or small dog,"the lad said he was getting a beddy whippet for bushing?a springer,cocker,border,etc all fall within this remit,its each to their own but I personally like to use terriers as thats what I own,the people I hunt with all keep terriers and we have a very high success rate of catch,we all keep the dogs of our choice but that doesn't mean yours is better than mine or vice,versa,if your happy with it then carry on,its whatever your personal experience and choice is,there is only so many dogs a person can keep fully worked and kennelled,I keep good allround dogs that work for me of the breed that I like,its down to personnal choice at the end of the day so long as they push cover hard we all get the same result,I haven't heard one of you experts so quick to criticise tell the lad that asked the question a beddy whippet is not the dog for the job,yis,wirralman

i think the lad' will ov realised that now' when hes read the posts'' dont u...

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the spanials dell has are the smallest ive seen and hes old stock lads they graft we have all seen good bushers when the lad asked what would he get definate not bed xwhippet a terrier x hound or spainal xterrier yes there is very good terriers but over the years as a lot of us have found they do POP down a hole or two :thumbs:

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what about a few pics of the bushers you lads on about.

am gona put some on later today' took some ov r pack this morn'' just wating ov a mate to put them'on... thay will be on here hope fully today..ATB.B

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the comment I made was a" terrier or small dog,"the lad said he was getting a beddy whippet for bushing?a springer,cocker,border,etc all fall within this remit,its each to their own but I personally like to use terriers as thats what I own,the people I hunt with all keep terriers and we have a very high success rate of catch,we all keep the dogs of our choice but that doesn't mean yours is better than mine or vice,versa,if your happy with it then carry on,its whatever your personal experience and choice is,there is only so many dogs a person can keep fully worked and kennelled,I keep good allround dogs that work for me of the breed that I like,its down to personnal choice at the end of the day so long as they push cover hard we all get the same result,I haven't heard one of you experts so quick to criticise tell the lad that asked the question a beddy whippet is not the dog for the job,yis,wirralman

 

 

Thats because you said it in your first post.

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this bitch is about 14 - 15 inch ts and is realy athletic and not bad in the cover either lol :thumbs:

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nice'' my sort ov spaniel that mate.. verey similar to the spaniel' my mates pups came off' back to a beagle x.....ATB.B

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