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rubbish.if the gap in cover isnt big enough my spaniel will make it bigger just by charging through it.if the spaniel dont wanna go in its cos thiers feck all in there.a good working springer will tac

seen a couple of springer x patterdale dogs round my way.real smart looking animal.bet they can do the thick stuff.

I've worked borders , pats ,fells, lakelands, russels, and a mate had both smooth and wire fox terriers plus crosses. All worked very well but they would never better a small springer. Anybody who has

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I've been in this game for 50yrs and I've yet to see any terrier stop to the whistle or drop to flush, something fairly easy to achieve with a spaniel.

thats because you havent seen mine ;)

 

Stick a vid up then ,lets see it.

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I've been in this game for 50yrs and I've yet to see any terrier stop to the whistle or drop to flush, something fairly easy to achieve with a spaniel.

thats because you havent seen mine ;)

what is it springer or cocker''

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I've been in this game for 50yrs and I've yet to see any terrier stop to the whistle or drop to flush, something fairly easy to achieve with a spaniel.

thats because you havent seen mine ;)

 

Stick a vid up then ,lets see it.

wish i had a video of it but the dogs long dead , theres a lot of people to back up what ive said about the dog though.

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I've been in this game for 50yrs and I've yet to see any terrier stop to the whistle or drop to flush, something fairly easy to achieve with a spaniel.

thats because you havent seen mine ;)

what is it springer or cocker''

border x lakeland ;)

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I've been in this game for 50yrs and I've yet to see any terrier stop to the whistle or drop to flush, something fairly easy to achieve with a spaniel.

thats because you havent seen mine ;)

 

Stick a vid up then ,lets see it.

wish i had a video of it but the dogs long dead , theres a lot of people to back up what ive said about the dog though.

Would it stop to the whistle and drop to flush mate.

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I've been in this game for 50yrs and I've yet to see any terrier stop to the whistle or drop to flush, something fairly easy to achieve with a spaniel.

thats because you havent seen mine ;)

 

Stick a vid up then ,lets see it.

wish i had a video of it but the dogs long dead , theres a lot of people to back up what ive said about the dog though.

Would it stop to the whistle and drop to flush mate.

he would drop to the whistle from any distance and stop chasing if i blew the whistle and wouldnt move until he was called in.this 22lb terrier could kill a winter dog fox in the cover and in the ground aswell ;)

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i have had some excellent bushing terriers that were as controlable as a lot of spaniels ive seen over the years.

the problem with terriers is your limited to were you can hunt because of them going to ground thats the reason i would have to say and have got a spaniel.

If you do go for a spaniel try and get yourself a small type :thumbs:

am i reading this post proper''' or has ur spaniel turned into a border' lakey..??

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i have had some excellent bushing terriers that were as controlable as a lot of spaniels ive seen over the years.

the problem with terriers is your limited to were you can hunt because of them going to ground thats the reason i would have to say and have got a spaniel.

If you do go for a spaniel try and get yourself a small type :thumbs:

am i reading this post proper''' or has ur spaniel turned into a border' lakey..??

people have more than one dog matey lol.

i was just replying to romany52 because he said hes never seen a terrier stop to the whistle.

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I've trained plenty of lurchers, springers and a gsp, and I've had plenty of good terriers, but never tried to train one like a gun dog, but I don't doubt it could be done. I've just never seen one that's all. Plus it would take better than the average dog owner to do it :D .

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i have had some excellent bushing terriers that were as controlable as a lot of spaniels ive seen over the years.

the problem with terriers is your limited to were you can hunt because of them going to ground thats the reason i would have to say and have got a spaniel.

If you do go for a spaniel try and get yourself a small type :thumbs:

am i reading this post proper''' or has ur spaniel turned into a border' lakey..??

people have more than one dog matey lol.

i was just replying to romany52 because he said hes never seen a terrier stop to the whistle.

my mistake mate..lol..ATB.B

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I've trained plenty of lurchers, springers and a gsp, and I've had plenty of good terriers, but never tried to train one like a gun dog, but I don't doubt it could be done. I've just never seen one that's all. Plus it would take better than the average dog owner to do it :D .

to be honest that dog was a bit special , probabley never have another one like him.

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I have 4 jack russells at the moment.

Before them i used to run pure bred border terriers but the best bushing dogs i've seen were my working border collies.

Had 5 over a 30 plus year period, all worked sheep and cattle and all got into places that were so tight that terriers had a job to get there.

Would bush all day no matter what the conditions.

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I have 4 jack russells at the moment.

Before them i used to run pure bred border terriers but the best bushing dogs i've seen were my working border collies.

Had 5 over a 30 plus year period, all worked sheep and cattle and all got into places that were so tight that terriers had a job to get there.

Would bush all day no matter what the conditions.

Best bushing dog i saw [bANNED TEXT] we were young was a collie/springer would graft from dawn till dusk.thumbs.gif

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have a look at nick valentines rabbiting pack'' he runs about 20 pluss dogs when hes out'hunting..griffon vandeens.. beagle crosses.. teckel crosses..he even runs full p/b with the pack.. have a look how many spaniels' he runs with them' springer or cocker''' none' am not knocking spaniels here there good dogs' with out a doubt iv got people that come out with the pack'ov small hound crosses me n my mate run with the lurchers.. thave brought there spaniels n thay can graft deffo' but thay couldnt live with the work rate these bushing dogs get through' iv seen it with my own eyes many times'' n to say thay could hunt a charlie on a line' for may be 15/20 mins till its found'.. like these hounds can'' iv not seen one do it yet.. wev got 3 spaniel x beagle x here there about 11mth.. thats for anouther post though..ATB.B

just need a leggier spanel thats better conditioned. :thumbs:

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