mushroom 12,823 Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 Hope magwitch doesn't mind me re-posting his photo. But here is a micro ferret but don't think they are the same as greyhound fezzers. but they are definately smaller than ya normal ferrets. Id call that more of a greyhound ferret than a ''micro'' they are about six'' long. Looks like a nice ferret all the same. I maybe wrong about the micro/greyhound but it's one of them :laugh: :laugh: Quote Link to post
romany52 313 Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 Going out on a bit of a limb, but here goes... Years ago ferrets were purely used for hunting, only taken out of their small hutches when they were being cleaned out and worked. It's been proven with dogs and the 'silver fox' program taking place in Russia, that over time generations of domestic animal become more appealing to humans with more intimate contact. Like the dog breeds & without selective breeding, the foxes started to take on characteristics like retaining their puppy like ears, displaying different coloured coats, different tails etc. People of today tend to spend more time with their ferrets, give them better housing & food. Is it possible that this alone has somehow altered the form of the ferret slightly with each generation? If you think about it, the stoat like form of the 'greyhound' ferret has given way to a form not too unlike a younger, semi kit like form... I'm in no way suggesting that the ferret has the ability/mentality to integrate with humans as the dog has, just offering food for thought... There is most likely an element of that mate. A silver fox program in Russia set out to breed calmer ,more easily handleable foxes that would also breed better, being more placid. That's when the pendent ears and collie marking came in. I don't know how it works exactly , but scientists found that the hormone , or whatever it was that causes the fear and nervousness in wild animals diminishes when you selectively breed for calmness. Now apparently this is also used in the assimilation of colour and other genes as well. I believe they also bred short legged foxes. That program was abandoned because partie coloured fur was worthless. Now getting back to my greyhound ferrets they had a strong tendency to be biters. I had to hand rear a litter once and they were the worst biters I've ever had. So the point you make is a valid one, could be that so many ferrets are bred as docile pets they have changed physically, it could also account for all the new colours and long coats that didn't exist not too many years ago. The silver fox programm is still being run on a scientific basis and is well into the 100 generations. their research has identified three type of behaviour towards humans from foxes - fear (the fox will not approach humans) - aggression (the fox will try to attack humans) - curiosity (the fox will approach humans and actively seek them out for affection) Each behavioural trait has been bred together to explore them and what was found was as you said the curious foxes changed coat colours, behaviour, physical shape and vocal sounds. Whereas the other two types did not alter is these areas at all. You obviously read about more recently than me mate, I was working from memory, a good few years ago when I looked at it. Quote Link to post
mushroom 12,823 Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 It was on bbci player not long ago Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 It was on bbci player not long ago I think I watched the same program! Quote Link to post
farmerkev09 105 Posted May 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 Hope magwitch doesn't mind me re-posting his photo. But here is a micro ferret but don't think they are the same as greyhound fezzers. but they are definately smaller than ya normal ferrets. thanks for the pics matey great looking ferrets have you breed them this year farmer Quote Link to post
wullieh 53 Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 Hope magwitch doesn't mind me re-posting his photo. But here is a micro ferret but don't think they are the same as greyhound fezzers. but they are definately smaller than ya normal ferrets. Id call that more of a greyhound ferret than a ''micro'' they are about six'' long. Looks like a nice ferret all the same. I maybe wrong about the micro/greyhound but it's one of them :laugh: :laugh: it is just a small ferret plain and simple not a greyhound /micro ferret. if there are such a thing then ive seen hundreds of them in my day so they not rare at all. Quote Link to post
TOMO 25,991 Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 I DO LOVE A KNOW IT ALL AND THEN KNOW'S F*CK ALL AND ALL THE ADVIVE GIVEN IS ONLY WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TOLD THEM OR OUT OF A BOOK I HAVE KEPT FERRETS FOR 35YEARS AND I NEVER READ SO MUCK SHIT ABOUT BREEDING AND KEEPING FERRETS ATB TJ And I love someone stuck in the past. Things change, knowledge improves. Or do you still feed milk and slops and snap teeth? Good answer droid, Well there has been a few posts about folk like tj claiming to have owned greyhound ferret bas no one has yet managed to put up a picture or give any real hard proof they did/do excistso if any person can prove it then please share it with the world because as i see it, it is only a myth and old codjers like tj thinking back to there youth and since that was alsong time ago his memory might be playing tricks. All they are is longer ferrets that carry no flab .. there not a breed just a different body shape ... thats an odd statment kay, you could say the same about evry breed of dog, dackshound to german shepard, same species, but very difrnt in apperance, both have exactly the same bone count and muscles , but in difrent shapes. WHY!!!!!!!!! BECAUSE US HUMANS bred them like that, same with the greyhound type ferret i love these young kids that come on , and just dissmiss somthing without listning first NIGHT FERRETING will be up again next , and folk will be saying you cant do that either. LISTERN AND LERN 1 Quote Link to post
the_hunter1983 2 Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 I dont think this breed ever exsitsted, you can ask for pictures and if you lucky to get any id say it is the following. 1. runt of a litter 2. litter not being fed properly due to lack of knowledge or neglect. 3. controlled feeding programe to limit there size. My mate like his jills to be small and decided he wanted to breed so i found him a very small hob to breed with the hob was smaller than most jills, but because he cares about his ferrets it turned out every kit was much bigger than the parents, yes you can breed for colour and size but as for grehond strain as i said i dont believe such thing a ferret is a ferret. greyhound ferrets arnt small ... typically there long lean animals i dont mean skinny with a roach back . not these new fangled '' micro '' ferrets They were dubbed greyhound ferrets because of there overall shape .. i think people are quite astonished these days if they see a ferret thats less than 3 kilos in weight & has to roll about like a seal yes kay you are right there...i have 3 jills and they are greyhound's and i have just mated them and have another load of kits,they are a common ferret where i am from, Quote Link to post
mushroom 12,823 Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 Hope magwitch doesn't mind me re-posting his photo. But here is a micro ferret but don't think they are the same as greyhound fezzers. but they are definately smaller than ya normal ferrets. thanks for the pics matey great looking ferrets have you breed them this year farmer They are not mine mate they belong to a bloke off here Quote Link to post
farmerkev09 105 Posted May 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 hi mushroom are sorry do you no his user name farmer Quote Link to post
mushroom 12,823 Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 Hope magwitch doesn't mind me re-posting his photo. But here is a micro ferret but don't think they are the same as greyhound fezzers. but they are definately smaller than ya normal ferrets. thanks for the pics matey great looking ferrets have you breed them this year farmer They are not mine mate they belong to a bloke off here hi mushroom are sorry do you no his user name farmer Re-read my original post above the photo mate, it's at the top :laugh: Quote Link to post
farmerkev09 105 Posted May 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 many thanks mushroom my eyes must be painted on farmer Quote Link to post
wullieh 53 Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 I DO LOVE A KNOW IT ALL AND THEN KNOW'S F*CK ALL AND ALL THE ADVIVE GIVEN IS ONLY WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TOLD THEM OR OUT OF A BOOK I HAVE KEPT FERRETS FOR 35YEARS AND I NEVER READ SO MUCK SHIT ABOUT BREEDING AND KEEPING FERRETS ATB TJ And I love someone stuck in the past. Things change, knowledge improves. Or do you still feed milk and slops and snap teeth? Good answer droid, Well there has been a few posts about folk like tj claiming to have owned greyhound ferret bas no one has yet managed to put up a picture or give any real hard proof they did/do excistso if any person can prove it then please share it with the world because as i see it, it is only a myth and old codjers like tj thinking back to there youth and since that was alsong time ago his memory might be playing tricks. i,m not that old and like i said you know F*CK ALL yet an other tosser to the forum and i bet i know far more about them than you will ever, been given tution by the likes of james McKay and Bob Church doubt you heard of them tho. Quote Link to post
andy_browning 0 Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 Greyhound ferrets are just longer leaner ferrets, like Kay says. It's not down to feeding, it's down to genetics. true!! Quote Link to post
romany52 313 Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 I DO LOVE A KNOW IT ALL AND THEN KNOW'S F*CK ALL AND ALL THE ADVIVE GIVEN IS ONLY WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TOLD THEM OR OUT OF A BOOK I HAVE KEPT FERRETS FOR 35YEARS AND I NEVER READ SO MUCK SHIT ABOUT BREEDING AND KEEPING FERRETS ATB TJ And I love someone stuck in the past. Things change, knowledge improves. Or do you still feed milk and slops and snap teeth? Good answer droid, Well there has been a few posts about folk like tj claiming to have owned greyhound ferret bas no one has yet managed to put up a picture or give any real hard proof they did/do excistso if any person can prove it then please share it with the world because as i see it, it is only a myth and old codjers like tj thinking back to there youth and since that was alsong time ago his memory might be playing tricks. i,m not that old and like i said you know F*CK ALL yet an other tosser to the forum and i bet i know far more about them than you will ever, been given tution by the likes of james McKay and Bob Church doubt you heard of them tho. What an arrogant twat ! Quote Link to post
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