how shit a shot is he

[Buch 145]

You cant on one hand hunt and then on the other condem another mans sport without knowing all the facts. You also cant condem another mans sport because you see a video (which i havnt seen) showing that mans sport in a bad light, should football be banned because footy hooligans do there best to kick the shit out of each other everyweek because of it? That is the reasons were in such a poor situation in this country. We live in an envirotent were wild animals need to be controled wether there top tier hunter (fox/badger in the uk, Lion ect in africa) or down to the local herd of herbivre. Aslong as its done in a humane manner whats the problem. I bet the Lion's lived a better life that the chicken you ate last week that live for 3 months in a battrey layng an egg every day until it was "spent" then sent in an open aired lorry to be electrocuted. Its all about lesser of the 2 evils, i worked on an intensive pig farm for 2 years and i loved it the pigs were fine ect ect but if you was to ask me if they had a more fulfillig life than a "wild" liion in africa then i would probabl have to say no. Thats just the way it is. Africa is an icredably poor place, the wildlife ranges have runnig gun battles with poachers and if the money one "yank" pays for a lion keeps half a village fed for a year (and it realy is that much) then its a case of the lesser of to evils.

 

To long and you didnt read the whole thing? We hunt for one reason, we enjoy it. We hunt for sport. If youve convinced yourself you hunt soley for pest control then your a good liar cause youve even convinced yourself. As long as you hunt responsably and humanely then were is the problem?

[scothunter 12,609]

You cant on one hand hunt and then on the other condem another mans sport without knowing all the facts. You also cant condem another mans sport because you see a video (which i havnt seen) showing that mans sport in a bad light, should football be banned because footy hooligans do there best to kick the shit out of each other everyweek because of it? That is the reasons were in such a poor situation in this country. We live in an envirotent were wild animals need to be controled wether there top tier hunter (fox/badger in the uk, Lion ect in africa) or down to the local herd of herbivre. Aslong as its done in a humane manner whats the problem. I bet the Lion's lived a better life that the chicken you ate last week that live for 3 months in a battrey layng an egg every day until it was "spent" then sent in an open aired lorry to be electrocuted. Its all about lesser of the 2 evils, i worked on an intensive pig farm for 2 years and i loved it the pigs were fine ect ect but if you was to ask me if they had a more fulfillig life than a "wild" liion in africa then i would probabl have to say no. Thats just the way it is. Africa is an icredably poor place, the wildlife ranges have runnig gun battles with poachers and if the money one "yank" pays for a lion keeps half a village fed for a year (and it realy is that much) then its a case of the lesser of to evils.

 

To long and you didnt read the whole thing? We hunt for one reason, we enjoy it. We hunt for sport. If youve convinced yourself you hunt soley for pest control then your a good liar cause youve even convinced yourself. As long as you hunt responsably and humanely then were is the problem?

[scothunter 12,609]

You cant on one hand hunt and then on the other condem another mans sport without knowing all the facts. You also cant condem another mans sport because you see a video (which i havnt seen) showing that mans sport in a bad light, should football be banned because footy hooligans do there best to kick the shit out of each other everyweek because of it? That is the reasons were in such a poor situation in this country. We live in an envirotent were wild animals need to be controled wether there top tier hunter (fox/badger in the uk, Lion ect in africa) or down to the local herd of herbivre. Aslong as its done in a humane manner whats the problem. I bet the Lion's lived a better life that the chicken you ate last week that live for 3 months in a battrey layng an egg every day until it was "spent" then sent in an open aired lorry to be electrocuted. Its all about lesser of the 2 evils, i worked on an intensive pig farm for 2 years and i loved it the pigs were fine ect ect but if you was to ask me if they had a more fulfillig life than a "wild" liion in africa then i would probabl have to say no. Thats just the way it is. Africa is an icredably poor place, the wildlife ranges have runnig gun battles with poachers and if the money one "yank" pays for a lion keeps half a village fed for a year (and it realy is that much) then its a case of the lesser of to evils.

 

To long and you didnt read the whole thing? We hunt for one reason, we enjoy it. We hunt for sport. If youve convinced yourself you hunt soley for pest control then your a good liar cause youve even convinced yourself. As long as you hunt responsably and humanely then were is the problem?

 

we werent saying were against it,and how can you say we were without even watching vid?the last sentence you wrote was the whole issue and why we thought it in bad taste.....

As long as you hunt responsably and humanely then were is the problem?

there was none of that in vid. Edited May 20, 2010 by scothunter

[Lab 10,979]

You cant on one hand hunt and then on the other condem another mans sport without knowing all the facts. You also cant condem another mans sport because you see a video (which i havnt seen) showing that mans sport in a bad light, should football be banned because footy hooligans do there best to kick the shit out of each other everyweek because of it? That is the reasons were in such a poor situation in this country. We live in an envirotent were wild animals need to be controled wether there top tier hunter (fox/badger in the uk, Lion ect in africa) or down to the local herd of herbivre. Aslong as its done in a humane manner whats the problem. I bet the Lion's lived a better life that the chicken you ate last week that live for 3 months in a battrey layng an egg every day until it was "spent" then sent in an open aired lorry to be electrocuted. Its all about lesser of the 2 evils, i worked on an intensive pig farm for 2 years and i loved it the pigs were fine ect ect but if you was to ask me if they had a more fulfillig life than a "wild" liion in africa then i would probabl have to say no. Thats just the way it is. Africa is an icredably poor place, the wildlife ranges have runnig gun battles with poachers and if the money one "yank" pays for a lion keeps half a village fed for a year (and it realy is that much) then its a case of the lesser of to evils.

 

To long and you didnt read the whole thing? We hunt for one reason, we enjoy it. We hunt for sport. If youve convinced yourself you hunt soley for pest control then your a good liar cause youve even convinced yourself. As long as you hunt responsably and humanely then were is the problem?

 

we werent saying were against it,and how can you say we were without even watching vid?the last sentence you wrote was the whole issue and why we thought it in bad taste.....

As long as you hunt responsably and humanely then were is the problem?

there was none of that in vid.

Well i think Buch has pretty much hit the nail on the head there.

Scothunter- I'm strugling to see how you you think that the vid is unhumane and the people are unresponsable? There is a guide telling the shooter when to take the shot, and he actually stops him before he shoots till he gets the best shot.

The shooter takes the first shot of a stick- not thinking he is John Wayne and shooting free hand.

The only change in the scenario is a bad shot placement which all of us have done at 1 point or another and instead of running away like the animals over here the lion charged them, now can you explain what they wer ment to do in that situation?

As for the high fiving and pats on the back i would say that it was more because they were alive and hadn't just been ripped to death by a pissed of lion!

[scothunter 12,609]

You cant on one hand hunt and then on the other condem another mans sport without knowing all the facts. You also cant condem another mans sport because you see a video (which i havnt seen) showing that mans sport in a bad light, should football be banned because footy hooligans do there best to kick the shit out of each other everyweek because of it? That is the reasons were in such a poor situation in this country. We live in an envirotent were wild animals need to be controled wether there top tier hunter (fox/badger in the uk, Lion ect in africa) or down to the local herd of herbivre. Aslong as its done in a humane manner whats the problem. I bet the Lion's lived a better life that the chicken you ate last week that live for 3 months in a battrey layng an egg every day until it was "spent" then sent in an open aired lorry to be electrocuted. Its all about lesser of the 2 evils, i worked on an intensive pig farm for 2 years and i loved it the pigs were fine ect ect but if you was to ask me if they had a more fulfillig life than a "wild" liion in africa then i would probabl have to say no. Thats just the way it is. Africa is an icredably poor place, the wildlife ranges have runnig gun battles with poachers and if the money one "yank" pays for a lion keeps half a village fed for a year (and it realy is that much) then its a case of the lesser of to evils.

 

To long and you didnt read the whole thing? We hunt for one reason, we enjoy it. We hunt for sport. If youve convinced yourself you hunt soley for pest control then your a good liar cause youve even convinced yourself. As long as you hunt responsably and humanely then were is the problem?

 

we werent saying were against it,and how can you say we were without even watching vid?the last sentence you wrote was the whole issue and why we thought it in bad taste.....

As long as you hunt responsably and humanely then were is the problem?

there was none of that in vid.

Well i think Buch has pretty much hit the nail on the head there.

Scothunter- I'm strugling to see how you you think that the vid is unhumane and the people are unresponsable? There is a guide telling the shooter when to take the shot, and he actually stops him before he shoots till he gets the best shot.

The shooter takes the first shot of a stick- not thinking he is John Wayne and shooting free hand.

The only change in the scenario is a bad shot placement which all of us have done at 1 point or another and instead of running away like the animals over here the lion charged them, now can you explain what they wer ment to do in that situation?

As for the high fiving and pats on the back i would say that it was more because they were alive and hadn't just been ripped to death by a pissed of lion!

 

well we can each interpretate the vid in our own way mate,and i didnt think it was very sporting and thats all i have to say on the matter.im not the only one who thinks this either.and it is a forum and we all have our diffrent opinions.as i said for the record i have no prob with what people hunt just found this particular hunt very amateur and bad shooting.can only judge from what i saw and what i saw was pretty shit.

 

and buch in his own admission didnt even watch the vid so his opinion means nowt to me.just because we all hunt in some way or another doesnt mean that every hunt or death of an animal i should agree with in case it makes me look like an anti.if i see something that i think was unjust or idiotic then i will say my opinion i was always taught that if you were going to hunt always respect your quarry and dispatch it quickly.The lion thing couldnt have been further from that.but hey if you see nothing wrong with that then thats up to you but you should respect that other lads on here myself included dont see it your way.anyway im bored with it now.

Edited May 21, 2010 by scothunter

[Guest eastmids]

the lion charged them, now can you explain what they wer ment to do in that situation?

As for the high fiving and pats on the back i would say that it was more because they were alive and hadn't just been ripped to death by a pissed of lion!

spot on ,it doesnt need intepretating any idiot can see they were pleased to come out of that alive i thought that was the hole point of the clip "a close one".

[Richie10 345]

Shotgun hunter,

At least your countrymen can stand shoulder to shoulder on hunting.

 

Over here it is all about 'my sport is more humane that your sport'. All about getting it over on someone else.

 

The Lion wasn't in a 'Canned Hunt' it was being removed. Why not get some money out of it? I would.

 

Hunting is a sport and I enjoy it, if I was doing it to control species it would seem like work, which I go to the office to do not in my free time.

 

Not many people have been in a dangerous situation like that but still tell everyone how they would have acted. That is called Immaturity.

[SHOTGUNSNIPER 47]

Shotgun hunter,

At least your countrymen can stand shoulder to shoulder on hunting.

 

Over here it is all about 'my sport is more humane that your sport'. All about getting it over on someone else.

 

The Lion wasn't in a 'Canned Hunt' it was being removed. Why not get some money out of it? I would.

 

Hunting is a sport and I enjoy it, if I was doing it to control species it would seem like work, which I go to the office to do not in my free time.

 

Not many people have been in a dangerous situation like that but still tell everyone how they would have acted. That is called Immaturity.

 

Like I said earlier - I have been charged by a +400lb Black Bear not a fun experience - time seems to take the edge from some events but not the bear charge it rates right up there with being shot.....

 

I go on many site's - the interenet is cool that way - world wide information - this site is the only one that has the get over the other hunter and anti gun discussions - It sometimes make's good debate and other time's it "nanner nanner boo boo's down the path to a piss'n contest" !

 

I am sure it would be easy to post many questionable pictures or videos that would portray hunting activities in a less than admirable light and then subjectively comment on them.... Sounds suspiciously like anti hunting propaganda to me ....For some of us it's difficult to take the high road!

 

Shoulder to shoulder - Not all the time in the USA but we seem to get it right when it counts....

 

:gunsmilie: :gunsmilie: :gunsmilie: :gunsmilie:

[Lab 10,979]

You cant on one hand hunt and then on the other condem another mans sport without knowing all the facts. You also cant condem another mans sport because you see a video (which i havnt seen) showing that mans sport in a bad light, should football be banned because footy hooligans do there best to kick the shit out of each other everyweek because of it? That is the reasons were in such a poor situation in this country. We live in an envirotent were wild animals need to be controled wether there top tier hunter (fox/badger in the uk, Lion ect in africa) or down to the local herd of herbivre. Aslong as its done in a humane manner whats the problem. I bet the Lion's lived a better life that the chicken you ate last week that live for 3 months in a battrey layng an egg every day until it was "spent" then sent in an open aired lorry to be electrocuted. Its all about lesser of the 2 evils, i worked on an intensive pig farm for 2 years and i loved it the pigs were fine ect ect but if you was to ask me if they had a more fulfillig life than a "wild" liion in africa then i would probabl have to say no. Thats just the way it is. Africa is an icredably poor place, the wildlife ranges have runnig gun battles with poachers and if the money one "yank" pays for a lion keeps half a village fed for a year (and it realy is that much) then its a case of the lesser of to evils.

 

To long and you didnt read the whole thing? We hunt for one reason, we enjoy it. We hunt for sport. If youve convinced yourself you hunt soley for pest control then your a good liar cause youve even convinced yourself. As long as you hunt responsably and humanely then were is the problem?

 

we werent saying were against it,and how can you say we were without even watching vid?the last sentence you wrote was the whole issue and why we thought it in bad taste.....

As long as you hunt responsably and humanely then were is the problem?

there was none of that in vid.

Well i think Buch has pretty much hit the nail on the head there.

Scothunter- I'm strugling to see how you you think that the vid is unhumane and the people are unresponsable? There is a guide telling the shooter when to take the shot, and he actually stops him before he shoots till he gets the best shot.

The shooter takes the first shot of a stick- not thinking he is John Wayne and shooting free hand.

The only change in the scenario is a bad shot placement which all of us have done at 1 point or another and instead of running away like the animals over here the lion charged them, now can you explain what they wer ment to do in that situation?

As for the high fiving and pats on the back i would say that it was more because they were alive and hadn't just been ripped to death by a pissed of lion!

 

well we can each interpretate the vid in our own way mate,and i didnt think it was very sporting and thats all i have to say on the matter.im not the only one who thinks this either.and it is a forum and we all have our diffrent opinions.as i said for the record i have no prob with what people hunt just found this particular hunt very amateur and bad shooting.can only judge from what i saw and what i saw was pretty shit.

 

and buch in his own admission didnt even watch the vid so his opinion means nowt to me.just because we all hunt in some way or another doesnt mean that every hunt or death of an animal i should agree with in case it makes me look like an anti.if i see something that i think was unjust or idiotic then i will say my opinion i was always taught that if you were going to hunt always respect your quarry and dispatch it quickly.The lion thing couldnt have been further from that.but hey if you see nothing wrong with that then thats up to you but you should respect that other lads on here myself included dont see it your way.anyway im bored with it now.

Good to get a debate going mate, i have my opinion and i know you have yours and i fully respect that.....it doesn't mean that i have to agree with it, would be a pretty boring site if we did! Looks like we will never agree on this 1.....you see a couple of idiots blasting away at a lion and i see a hunting trip gone wrong.

I have only directed my posts towards you mate as you were the 1 that started the thread and were asking for opinions.

[scothunter 12,609]

You cant on one hand hunt and then on the other condem another mans sport without knowing all the facts. You also cant condem another mans sport because you see a video (which i havnt seen) showing that mans sport in a bad light, should football be banned because footy hooligans do there best to kick the shit out of each other everyweek because of it? That is the reasons were in such a poor situation in this country. We live in an envirotent were wild animals need to be controled wether there top tier hunter (fox/badger in the uk, Lion ect in africa) or down to the local herd of herbivre. Aslong as its done in a humane manner whats the problem. I bet the Lion's lived a better life that the chicken you ate last week that live for 3 months in a battrey layng an egg every day until it was "spent" then sent in an open aired lorry to be electrocuted. Its all about lesser of the 2 evils, i worked on an intensive pig farm for 2 years and i loved it the pigs were fine ect ect but if you was to ask me if they had a more fulfillig life than a "wild" liion in africa then i would probabl have to say no. Thats just the way it is. Africa is an icredably poor place, the wildlife ranges have runnig gun battles with poachers and if the money one "yank" pays for a lion keeps half a village fed for a year (and it realy is that much) then its a case of the lesser of to evils.

 

To long and you didnt read the whole thing? We hunt for one reason, we enjoy it. We hunt for sport. If youve convinced yourself you hunt soley for pest control then your a good liar cause youve even convinced yourself. As long as you hunt responsably and humanely then were is the problem?

 

we werent saying were against it,and how can you say we were without even watching vid?the last sentence you wrote was the whole issue and why we thought it in bad taste.....

As long as you hunt responsably and humanely then were is the problem?

there was none of that in vid.

Well i think Buch has pretty much hit the nail on the head there.

Scothunter- I'm strugling to see how you you think that the vid is unhumane and the people are unresponsable? There is a guide telling the shooter when to take the shot, and he actually stops him before he shoots till he gets the best shot.

The shooter takes the first shot of a stick- not thinking he is John Wayne and shooting free hand.

The only change in the scenario is a bad shot placement which all of us have done at 1 point or another and instead of running away like the animals over here the lion charged them, now can you explain what they wer ment to do in that situation?

As for the high fiving and pats on the back i would say that it was more because they were alive and hadn't just been ripped to death by a pissed of lion!

 

well we can each interpretate the vid in our own way mate,and i didnt think it was very sporting and thats all i have to say on the matter.im not the only one who thinks this either.and it is a forum and we all have our diffrent opinions.as i said for the record i have no prob with what people hunt just found this particular hunt very amateur and bad shooting.can only judge from what i saw and what i saw was pretty shit.

 

and buch in his own admission didnt even watch the vid so his opinion means nowt to me.just because we all hunt in some way or another doesnt mean that every hunt or death of an animal i should agree with in case it makes me look like an anti.if i see something that i think was unjust or idiotic then i will say my opinion i was always taught that if you were going to hunt always respect your quarry and dispatch it quickly.The lion thing couldnt have been further from that.but hey if you see nothing wrong with that then thats up to you but you should respect that other lads on here myself included dont see it your way.anyway im bored with it now.

Good to get a debate going mate, i have my opinion and i know you have yours and i fully respect that.....it doesn't mean that i have to agree with it, would be a pretty boring site if we did! Looks like we will never agree on this 1.....you see a couple of idiots blasting away at a lion and i see a hunting trip gone wrong.

I have only directed my posts towards you mate as you were the 1 that started the thread and were asking for opinions.

 

no worries mate and i prob was a bit opinated in my responses but as you said we all cant agree on everything ATB

[DIGZY 4]

thats not hunting thats sloter

[Lab 10,979]

thats not hunting thats sloter