NOOK/ANNA 96 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Alright folks just wanting to hear your opinions? Was talking to a old friend of mine the other day and we got on the subject of teaching a dog to jump. I said i always teach my dogs to jump as i like to have this quality in my dogs. He on the other hand said he never teaches his dogs to jump anymore and does not like them to. I asked him why this was and he said it was because that a lot of the permission he has is now double fenced. And that one of his previous dogs he had jumped one of these fences and came down on the second and caused serious damage to the dog. It got me thinking is it something that is a necessity in a dog or just a extra. What i mean does it really affect a dogs working ability that much? Quote Link to post
chris strilciw 1 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 wouldnt say it would affest there working skills its really how many permissions have you got that your dog needs to jump if not then dont or teach them only to jump on command just my thoughts chris Quote Link to post
chartpolski 24,238 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Even on permission there are walls, fences, gates, etc, to get over; so if a dog doesn't jump, what do you do..... lift it over them ? Cheers. Quote Link to post
border lad 1,047 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 were I live the farmers are building, higher fences, with 2strands barb wire at the top, and often there is 3 fences IE, the main fence and a strand of barb wire off sett about 3ft off each side, very dangerous fences, I like a dog that can jump, but that type of fence, is very dangerous to the best of dogs. jumping, normal fences of 4ft, 6" and stone walls no problem, this youngest dog I have he is not jumping yet, and I am happy with that situation,due to those type of fences, Quote Link to post
recce 2 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 in my case the areas i lamp there is really no need for a dog to jump,easy accsess to the fields and golf courses i regularly visit,if i was hunting land where sheep and livestock were found this would prob be a different story,iv never had to lift a dog over a gate yet though, Quote Link to post
EDean 0 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 I have the same question thinking how it would affect the dog's joint health. Quote Link to post
CI HIR 13 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 (edited) You can`t go opening noisy gates or carrying your dogs over fences whilst out lamping,that would be laughable.There`s no excuse for not teaching your dog to jump,lurcher or whatever. Edited May 19, 2010 by CI HIR Quote Link to post
salclalin 240 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 In my Opinion a Lurcher Has to be Able to Jump Obstacles in the Course of a Days Hunting.A Dog that Pulls up everytime it Encounters a Fence/Wall Etc Will see A lot of Game Getting away Which in Due Course May Cause the Dog to Become Frustrated Which could Lead the Dog to Opening Up.Just My Opinion. Quote Link to post
torchey 1,328 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Alright folks just wanting to hear your opinions? Was talking to a old friend of mine the other day and we got on the subject of teaching a dog to jump. I said i always teach my dogs to jump as i like to have this quality in my dogs. He on the other hand said he never teaches his dogs to jump anymore and does not like them to. I asked him why this was and he said it was because that a lot of the permission he has is now double fenced. And that one of his previous dogs he had jumped one of these fences and came down on the second and caused serious damage to the dog. It got me thinking is it something that is a necessity in a dog or just a extra. What i mean does it really affect a dogs working ability that much? The dog i,ve got now don,t jump through my choice, as the ground i work there is no need, the last lurcher i had did jump and it cost me a few quid in vet bills,,to jump on command only that would be nice... Quote Link to post
lofti 579 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 day time yes defo bits a must,to much game would get away . try to not have them jumping while working them with lamp tho to many hidden dangers, Quote Link to post
doris 6 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 my dog jumps reluctantly after having an accident during jump training. he now only jumps on command. . . . . more by accident than design but it works for me. Quote Link to post
Steve McHardy 2 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 i always teach my dogs to jump most of the time its a good idea due to navigating obsticles during a nights lamping or even a day time mooch there will always be heart stopping moments when a dog is running quarry and it goes through a fence. ive seen dogs that dont jump hit fences and bounce but if they had hit a post its lights out where ive seen my old bith just take them in her stride without stopping and picking her quarry up on the other side. i think there are a lo of factors to look at type of ground and the obsticles you come across. my mates old dog almost disembowled himself on a barbed wire fence took alot of money and alot of stitches to save him and he now lifts his dogs over them. its horses for courses and each to there own but i like mine to jump and i teach them from an early age my whole pack lurchers, terriers, labs and the canine rocket that is my cocker all jump stone walls with glee at fences the big dogs go over and the wee dogs go under or through. in short nothing can ruin a field for lamping like the chain on a gate. Quote Link to post
wirral countryman 2,110 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 its part of basic training to get your dog to jump on command,it looks a bit amateur lifting dogs over obstacles,I hunt a lot of short fields and after a few hours I would think you'd have a bad back lifting all the time,then theres all the noise you'd make,it makes sense for a dog to jump,these are working dogs and sometimes they get hurt,get them out early and let them get the fieldcraft they need to make a decent dog,atb,wirralman Quote Link to post
COSH 14 Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 If you want to catch lots of game, the dog must jump Quote Link to post
boyo 1,398 Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 hunted my lurchers over most parts of the country and the only part they didnt really need to be able to jump was up on the fens in my opinion jumping is a mustin a lurcher. nothing worse than a lurcher whining because it cant get over a obstacle or having to lift a big lurcher up and over something looks real amaterish. Quote Link to post
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