iluvmarcus 23 Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 This picture was taken in 1920. I wonder if these dogs or men really gave a tinkers cuss whether or not these dogs knew what breed they were. I'll but just about anything though that they all had one thing in common. They were all most likely damn good at catchin a hare. GREAT READ, at the time that picture was taken most towns and villagers had there own coursing meet, shame how things change Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 scottish deerhound in its true form was a real dog thtas were the stag hound comes from simple as any dog to catch big reds has to have abit stamina power and guts , Quote Link to post
Terrie 12 Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 A very informative post wished there was more like it! Thank you Oh and love the old pics could look at them all day like someone else said its a shame things had to change. Quote Link to post
stormyboy 1,352 Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Good post Dan. Youre right about folks trying to add/improve things-that curiosity is human nature. Doesnt always change things for the better though! Quote Link to post
butcher 0 Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 youve out done yourself ther dan good bit of reading in that .. Quote Link to post
10B LAD 0 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Maybe we all can learn something from this stuff. Instead of arguing and bickering and worrying about what this cross and that cross can do, maybe we can keep it simple and use dogs and not worry so much about the lineage. This passage was taken from another site. Possessing many of the elements of the sheep-dog, but employed for different purposes, the LURCHER has fallen into great disrepute, being seldom seen as the companion of respectable persons. It is bred from the greyhound and sheep-dog, and is supposed to be most valuable when its parents are the rough Scotch Greyhound and the Scotch Colley. It is a matter of some regret that the Dog should bear so bad a character, as it is a remarkably handsome animal, combining the best attributes of both parents, and being equally eminent in speed, scent, and intelligence. As, however, it is usually the companion of poachers and other disreputable characters, the gamekeeper bears a deadly hatred towards the Lurcher, and is sure to shoot the poor animal at the earliest opportunity. […] Sometimes the game-destroying instincts of the Lurcher take a wrong turn, and lead the animal to hunt sheep, instead of confining itself to ordinary game. When it becomes thus perverted it is a most dangerous foe to the flocks, and commits sad havoc among them. […] There are many breeds of the Lurcher, on account of the various Dogs of which the parentage is formed. The greyhound and sheep-dog are the original progenitors, but their offspring is crossed with various other Dogs, in order to obtain the desired qualifications. Thus, the greyhound is used on account of its speedy foot and silent tongue, and the sheep-dog on account of its hardiness, its sagacity, and its readiness in obeying its master. The spaniel is often made to take part in the pedigree, in order to give its well-known predilection for questing game, and the hound is employed for a similar purpose. But in all these crossings the greyhound must morally predominate, although its form is barely to be traced under the rough linearnents of the Lurcher. As the Lurcher causes such suspicion in the minds of the gamekeeper or the landlord, the owners of these Dogs were accustomed to cut off their tails, in order to make them look like honourable sheep-dogs, and so to escape the tax which presses upon sporting Dogs […] it can take upon itself that character in reality which its cropped tail too often falsely indicates, and can watch a fold, keep the sheep in order, or conduct them from one place to another, nearly if not quite as well as the true sheep-dog from which it sprang. Quote Link to post
10B LAD 0 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Maybe we all can learn something from this stuff. Instead of arguing and bickering and worrying about what this cross and that cross can do, maybe we can keep it simple and use dogs and not worry so much about the lineage. This passage was taken from another site. Possessing many of the elements of the sheep-dog, but employed for different purposes, the LURCHER has fallen into great disrepute, being seldom seen as the companion of respectable persons. It is bred from the greyhound and sheep-dog, and is supposed to be most valuable when its parents are the rough Scotch Greyhound and the Scotch Colley. It is a matter of some regret that the Dog should bear so bad a character, as it is a remarkably handsome animal, combining the best attributes of both parents, and being equally eminent in speed, scent, and intelligence. As, however, it is usually the companion of poachers and other disreputable characters, the gamekeeper bears a deadly hatred towards the Lurcher, and is sure to shoot the poor animal at the earliest opportunity. […] Sometimes the game-destroying instincts of the Lurcher take a wrong turn, and lead the animal to hunt sheep, instead of confining itself to ordinary game. When it becomes thus perverted it is a most dangerous foe to the flocks, and commits sad havoc among them. […] There are many breeds of the Lurcher, on account of the various Dogs of which the parentage is formed. The greyhound and sheep-dog are the original progenitors, but their offspring is crossed with various other Dogs, in order to obtain the desired qualifications. Thus, the greyhound is used on account of its speedy foot and silent tongue, and the sheep-dog on account of its hardiness, its sagacity, and its readiness in obeying its master. The spaniel is often made to take part in the pedigree, in order to give its well-known predilection for questing game, and the hound is employed for a similar purpose. But in all these crossings the greyhound must morally predominate, although its form is barely to be traced under the rough linearnents of the Lurcher. As the Lurcher causes such suspicion in the minds of the gamekeeper or the landlord, the owners of these Dogs were accustomed to cut off their tails, in order to make them look like honourable sheep-dogs, and so to escape the tax which presses upon sporting Dogs […] it can take upon itself that character in reality which its cropped tail too often falsely indicates, and can watch a fold, keep the sheep in order, or conduct them from one place to another, nearly if not quite as well as the true sheep-dog from which it sprang. Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Thanks for that Dan, I enjoyed that read. Quote Link to post
bird 9,937 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Thanks Dan, good read. And at the end of the day, it dont matter a feck whats in the x , as long as it catchs+kills the quarry you put it on. Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted May 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 This picture was taken in 1920. I wonder if these dogs or men really gave a tinkers cuss whether or not these dogs knew what breed they were. I'll but just about anything though that they all had one thing in common. They were all most likely damn good at catchin a hare. GREAT READ, at the time that picture was taken most towns and villagers had there own coursing meet, shame how things change True dat..........I'm wondering though how one can make so much sense on one thread and then spew so much shit on another. Be true to yourself partner and quit quotin the "status quo" and you'll be alright. Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 This picture was taken in 1920. I wonder if these dogs or men really gave a tinkers cuss whether or not these dogs knew what breed they were. I'll but just about anything though that they all had one thing in common. They were all most likely damn good at catchin a hare. GREAT READ, at the time that picture was taken most towns and villagers had there own coursing meet, shame how things change True dat..........I'm wondering though how one can make so much sense on one thread and then spew so much shit on another. Be true to yourself partner and quit quotin the "status quo" and you'll be alright. Quote Link to post
10B LAD 0 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Maybe we all can learn something from this stuff. Instead of arguing and bickering and worrying about what this cross and that cross can do, maybe we can keep it simple and use dogs and not worry so much about the lineage. This passage was taken from another site. Possessing many of the elements of the sheep-dog, but employed for different purposes, the LURCHER has fallen into great disrepute, being seldom seen as the companion of respectable persons. It is bred from the greyhound and sheep-dog, and is supposed to be most valuable when its parents are the rough Scotch Greyhound and the Scotch Colley. It is a matter of some regret that the Dog should bear so bad a character, as it is a remarkably handsome animal, combining the best attributes of both parents, and being equally eminent in speed, scent, and intelligence. As, however, it is usually the companion of poachers and other disreputable characters, the gamekeeper bears a deadly hatred towards the Lurcher, and is sure to shoot the poor animal at the earliest opportunity. […] Sometimes the game-destroying instincts of the Lurcher take a wrong turn, and lead the animal to hunt sheep, instead of confining itself to ordinary game. When it becomes thus perverted it is a most dangerous foe to the flocks, and commits sad havoc among them. […] There are many breeds of the Lurcher, on account of the various Dogs of which the parentage is formed. The greyhound and sheep-dog are the original progenitors, but their offspring is crossed with various other Dogs, in order to obtain the desired qualifications. Thus, the greyhound is used on account of its speedy foot and silent tongue, and the sheep-dog on account of its hardiness, its sagacity, and its readiness in obeying its master. The spaniel is often made to take part in the pedigree, in order to give its well-known predilection for questing game, and the hound is employed for a similar purpose. But in all these crossings the greyhound must morally predominate, although its form is barely to be traced under the rough linearnents of the Lurcher. As the Lurcher causes such suspicion in the minds of the gamekeeper or the landlord, the owners of these Dogs were accustomed to cut off their tails, in order to make them look like honourable sheep-dogs, and so to escape the tax which presses upon sporting Dogs […] it can take upon itself that character in reality which its cropped tail too often falsely indicates, and can watch a fold, keep the sheep in order, or conduct them from one place to another, nearly if not quite as well as the true sheep-dog from which it sprang. Where did you get this from I'd like to read more Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted May 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 http://www.messybeast.com/history/history.htm Here ya go, read away. Quote Link to post
10B LAD 0 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 http://www.messybeast.com/history/history.htm Here ya go, read away. Cheers Mate Quote Link to post
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