Guest REDROB Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 not all bullx will just grab hold any where they can, some get it right first time. half x hancox dog first class on marking and catching, to say bullx,s are crap shows you no nowt or your a wind up merchant. Quote Link to post
micheal rennicks 17 Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 i would watch what you say on this one fellas,if you know the score with a good bullcross you know,dont get drawn in to a match with anyone on this,if you think you have a dog that will beat a good bullcross on anything that can dish out a bit of stick,be it deer or fox,you realy dont know the score,and i would say you have not seen enough,this is imho,i dont mean to be funny but what are you on,your post is jibberish,this is imho :11: what i am trying to say nitevision,is dont get drawn into this shit,keep your dogs and yourself safe,theres no dogs out there that can take it and dish it out like a good bullcross,imho. i can now see what you were trying to say,i for one try to avoid getting drawn into anything,my beddy crosses do what i require,and what they enjoy,thats what matters to me,if some one has dogs that they feel are superior,then i dont believe them to many bullshitters about.my 1st bullcross will be here round about christmas,hope she dont turn out to be one of them bum biters dogs looking well nitevision,my dads bruce lee you know. Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 i really couldnt care wether the bull x is better than a beddy x,so long as your dog does what you want then what does it matter, [bANNED TEXT] matters is my dad could well be harder than yours well said aint that true of all our lurchers? Ps: bet he aint ive saw foxes get killed with saluk crosses collie crosses beddie crosses bull crosses ,i had a big 3 eights five eights out of a tor of dartmoor half and half backto a pure greyhound sid would kill fox roe hare rabbit on any giving night , and i saw adeerhound cross which would killl afox and retreive it , or any othe qaurry etc , i think the higher percentage of terreir blood of the right sorts makes a fox killing lurcher ,bulll ,aredale ,wheaton, deerhoundy dogs usaly take to fox easy theirs no best cross but at the moment thew bull cross seeems the easly most easy to get but ive not saw enough of them to own one as foxes are only a litle bit of my hunting ,bull crosses have the head power , but ive saw some nasty collie crosses , saw some big deerhound crosses who picked up a fox shook it like a rat job done ,cant make my mind up all the best any way a lurcher should be an alllrounder all the best Quote Link to post
Guest Frank Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 No, none of them Only 1 type is the best..........................................A, Tiger cross greyhound. Av one orderd, should be here in 2 weeks time, anyone want a challange? Frank. Quote Link to post
lucky 578 Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 No its not king and i will challlenge anyone and there bullx a night out and i will prove to you they are not the king of lurchers. why not put a few pics up to show people what they should be using then Quote Link to post
Guest Top Chalker Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 No its not king and i will challlenge anyone and there bullx a night out and i will prove to you they are not the king of lurchers. IMOP IT CAN ONLY BE THE BULL X... BEDDY GREY , JUST HASNT GOT THE TOOLS TO KILL FOXES WEEK IN WEEK OUT. A REAL BULL X WILL STILL TAKE FOXES WHEN IT IS SORE , OF A PREVIOUS NIGHTS HUNTING , AND DO IT AGAIN A FEW NIGHTS LATER, IMOP I DONT THINK YOU COULD DO THIS WITH A BG, MAYBE A COUPLE OF NIGHT S BUT NOT ON A REGULAR BASIS I THINK IT WOULD BE A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE IT :sick: IF YOUR JUST RUNNING THE ODD FOX MOST LURCHERS ENTERED PROPERLY WILL TAKE THEM... FOXES IMOP ARE NO BIG DEAL FOR A LURCHER .. SMOOTHRUN HOW MANY FOXES DO YOU RUN IN A YEAR ??? I HAVE SEEN SOME GREAT FOX DOGS NOT ALL OF THEM BULL X , BUT IF YOU WANT A DOG THAT CAN RUN AND KILL UP TO 5-10 FOXES A WEEK YOU NEED A DOG THAT KILLS THEM IN A CRACK= BULL X JMO Quote Link to post
lampinglurcher 36 Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 any dog fast enough and hard enough - ALL LURCHERS that has been brought up right will take fox given half a chance, i think the best dog is the one who uses its brains aswell as strength, speed, stamina, courage etc. my mates lab will tackle a wounded fox or deer that has been shot out of range(never a good idea but sometimes neccessary) and that dog will go all day because it knows how to do it. Quote Link to post
Guest mucker Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 different interpretations of what a fox dog is, is what gets this shit started :11: Quote Link to post
bullmastiff 615 Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 not being funny but if a good pat can kill foxes then most larger dogs should be able to do the job easily. So your not talking of jaw power just the speed of the kill to ensure it's humane, as millet said a pure grey is more than man enough for the job so the only thing your looking to add to that is maybe more stamina and certainly a thicker coat or skin to help protect it! which both beddy or bull crosses bring to it. From what I've seen on this site so far the beddy x seem to be quite a lot lighter so can probably catch the fox in the shortest amount of time but the bull x with the excess of muscle and power will once caught, kill the foxes quicker no matter where it grabs. Each has it's own good points and bad points it just depends what else you want the dog to do. A 'best' dog there aint! Quote Link to post
lucky 578 Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 i think to many people think they've got "fox dogs" just because there dog kills the odd fox once a blue moon, and to be honest i used to be the same when i was younger and rabbits and hares were my main quarry. imo if you go out mainly lamping rabbits and hares (pre ban) you won't get enough oppurtunitys to test a dog to it's full potential on foxes, i dont run rabbits or hares and because of this i've seen plenty of so called fox dogs throw the towel in when the going gets a bit tough, but i've also seen some very capable dogs aswell and 99% of them had a percentage of bull in there breeding. one thing i have noticed though is that there is ten times as many shite bull crosses about than there is good ones, probably because thay have become a bit of a fashion accessory for some people nowadays, and a lot of people just think they can put any bull over any greyhound and produce the ultimate killing machine, these people are usually dreamers or puppy peddlers. i dont really have a preffered cross of dog, if it's got the minerals it will do for me Quote Link to post
Guest mucker Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 not being funny but if a good pat can kill foxes then most larger dogs should be able to do the job easily.. A 'best' dog there aint! dont agree with that fella its in the breeding,how many lines of saluki crosses are bred with ferreting in mind. collie crosses for the hares, whippets for deer. or anyof them for fox??? dogs in each cross will have some success out side what they were bred for and the odd one will shine. but if you look at the percentages, i think a best type there is... Quote Link to post
Clipper 207 Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 i think to many people think they've got "fox dogs" just because there dog kills the odd fox once a blue moon, and to be honest i used to be the same when i was younger and rabbits and hares were my main quarry.imo if you go out mainly lamping rabbits and hares (pre ban) you won't get enough oppurtunitys to test a dog to it's full potential on foxes, i dont run rabbits or hares and because of this i've seen plenty of so called fox dogs throw the towel in when the going gets a bit tough, but i've also seen some very capable dogs aswell and 99% of them had a percentage of bull in there breeding. one thing i have noticed though is that there is ten times as many shite bull crosses about than there is good ones, probably because thay have become a bit of a fashion accessory for some people nowadays, and a lot of people just think they can put any bull over any greyhound and produce the ultimate killing machine, these people are usually dreamers or puppy peddlers. i dont really have a preffered cross of dog, if it's got the minerals it will do for me thats a good post bull crosses are a fashion accc ive seen a few bull crosses that were great with the nose good drawing dogs so i was told but couldnt catch a cold ive also seen some very good 1s Quote Link to post
Guest grubygrafter Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 ive had two greyhounds they both done fox with ease but they are injury prone and very little stamina. so they are out of the equassion.. and all this most lurchers will do fox is bollox good fox dogs are harder to come by i think the best type for me is a wheaten cross as it stands the weather and rough ground better Quote Link to post
BITCH 135 Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 at the end of the day when out lamping you come across everything from rabbit to fox to deer and things in between,and the best dog across the board,capable of it all and then again the next night has got to be a good bull x. Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Some dogs will kill a fox....others will kill foxes......after the first, then the journey really starts.....especially so if the lurcher has to go to work on his own until the job is done. (historically speaking of course) Quote Link to post
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