shaaark 10,809 Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 47 minutes ago, green lurchers said: Under rules pre ban dog not over 20in bitch 18 1/2 they did run a few minor stakes for dogs over 20 in but wernt competitive in terms of numbers entries , little bitches of correct size were usually the undoing of many top dogs of correct size and bigger , only way to beat a good dog was with a good bitch so they say , SHAARK If you go back far enough, and check up on stanley s wilkin, 'tiptree', that'll give you plenty of info about thebloodlines etc. “ good old Essex whippet blood Going back to towyside tatters, from, ........ south wales lol 1 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,809 Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 7 hours ago, Rudeboy 1 said: In my opinion both dogs and bitches whith whippet x greyhounds longdogs both sex are relatively good keen honest working dogs initially bred from a whippet sire and a greyhound dam as I've clearly emphasised to those in the clay class form...such a running dog is an end product end of story!!! Absolutely no other breeding ingredients should be introduced to such a longdog merely because it will. f**k up the broth so to speak and amongst other aspects its confirmation.The three quarter whippet x greyhound is a better coursing dog in the field and has electrifying thrust and zest.than an half bred....this applies to the collie bred lurcher I've witnessed a three quarter bred lurcher that came from my mates in Cornwall f***ing humiliate rabbits being lamped a statement fully substituted and agreed by those who use such lurchers. With a deep barrel chest and cat feet inherited from its whippet sire and its height length and muzzle that's inherited from its greyhound dam are with all probability a longdogs from breeding ingredients of both whippet and greyhound is often the requirements needed as an ultimate catch dog.now then all the retarted fuckers who are still on their deck and dory books infant class material please wise up a little I know it will be hard for you but....try to educated yourselves by working hard with your chosen running dogs be it lurcher strain or longdog hybrid yours in field sports. Carl rude boy Williams. FFS! Quote Link to post
green lurchers 16,703 Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 27 minutes ago, Daniel cain said: Be No good round here...would need a new dog everytime you went out...break to easy..that's why nobody keeps them anymore..plus Wales ain't rammed with rabbits and your whippet X's ain't catching to many puss on the tops...and let's be honest...they no fox dogs...so pretty much one trick ponies...you be better off breeding and peddling some bushers Carl,times have changed and you having a sabbatical all these yrs has left you out of touch Great pic d c 3 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,638 Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 26 minutes ago, Daniel cain said: Be No good round here...would need a new dog everytime you went out...break to easy..that's why nobody keeps them anymore..plus Wales ain't rammed with rabbits and your whippet X's ain't catching to many puss on the tops...and let's be honest...they no fox dogs...so pretty much one trick ponies...you be better off breeding and peddling some bushers Carl,times have changed and you having a sabbatical all these yrs has left you out of touch Ones round here 20 year ago stop bunny's lamped hare odd daytime hare mate good for odd bambi when out Not bad little pot filler to be fair but was bigger stronger than a whippet 1 Quote Link to post
green lurchers 16,703 Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, shaaark said: Going back to towyside tatters, from, ........ south wales lol Wat that lap dog spent more time hugging the fire lucky Stanley made something from that line by using em in the Essex countryside lol Edited June 3, 2021 by green lurchers 1 Quote Link to post
Daniel cain 45,527 Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, mC HULL said: Ones round here 20 year ago stop bunny's lamped hare odd daytime hare mate good for odd bambi when out Not bad little pot filler to be fair but was bigger stronger than a whippet Get that but there's no rabbits in Wales..that's why we all travel was the same 30 yrs ago last time Carl did abit 8 Quote Link to post
tatsblisters 9,834 Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 34 minutes ago, Daniel cain said: Be No good round here...would need a new dog everytime you went out...break to easy..that's why nobody keeps them anymore..plus Wales ain't rammed with rabbits and your whippet X's ain't catching to many puss on the tops...and let's be honest...they no fox dogs...so pretty much one trick ponies...you be better off breeding and peddling some bushers Carl,times have changed and you having a sabbatical all these yrs has left you out of touch Bang on the money these hybrids aren't going to have the feet on them for the roughest of terrains. I remember back in the day when we used to go up on the moors on the blue hare's and my mates whippet/greyhounds' feet would suffer running over burnt heather and rock screes . 2 Quote Link to post
poxon 5,741 Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Daniel cain said: Be No good round here...would need a new dog everytime you went out...break to easy..that's why nobody keeps them anymore..plus Wales ain't rammed with rabbits and your whippet X's ain't catching to many puss on the tops...and let's be honest...they no fox dogs...so pretty much one trick ponies...you be better off breeding and peddling some bushers Carl,times have changed and you having a sabbatical all these yrs has left you out of touch To be honest if he’s got good coursing greyhounds he’d be better off breeding f1 bedlington greyhounds as there’s a few welsh lads still nocking about with decent enough beddys there would be a lot more demand for them than whippet greyhounds the beddy greyhound are more suited to modern day hunting on any ground day or not an have a crack at any quarry there well put together for a nock of two very trainable an run every run like it’s there last there recovery time is good an last a nights lamping admitted there never going to be fast as a w/g but hunting dogs ain’t just about out an out speed anymore a clever determined runner gets the job done. Tbh I think any hints or tips of modern day working dogs you could offer Carl would be a waste of time he’s still hoping for his sabbatical return but a lot as changes since when he was active like the ban and we’ve moved on times changed gotta let him crack on I don’t think there be no line up of people off here wanting to ditch what there running an catching with to opt to get a whippet greyhound the only people I can see using this cross is people that don’t really get out an do a lot of work with a dog but occasionally gets out for the odd nights lamping here an there but attends all the country shows for lure coursing with them but good luck to Carl I think he’d be better off on a racing forum tbh I don’t think many are buying his story’s or waffle on here especially if they’ve been working dogs a while am there still at it 7 Quote Link to post
fenman1# 724 Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Daniel cain said: Get that but there's no rabbits in Wales..that's why we all travel was the same 30 yrs ago last time Carl did abit Same here down south of Ireland night of killing 30+ rabbits are gone.. People blame the shooters don't get me wrong they had an impact but the worst was the lads ferreting and selling them at greyhound tracks. 30s and 40s ever day taken off land all through summer too wasn't long f***ing the place. 12 tá 15 rabbits is a good night here now. Iv a greyhound bitch here does me if I go out lamping rabbits or my son and nephew have a whippet each. Greyhound is good for around 8 runs but that's OK cause that's an average night here now only thing is she's a bit stiff for couple days after it. 3 Quote Link to post
Daniel cain 45,527 Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, poxon said: To be honest if he’s got good coursing greyhounds he’d be better off breeding f1 bedlington greyhounds as there’s a few welsh lads still nocking about with decent enough beddys there would be a lot more demand for them than whippet greyhounds the beddy greyhound are more suited to modern day hunting on any ground day or not an have a crack at any quarry there well put together for a nock of two very trainable an run every run like it’s there last there recovery time is good an last a nights lamping admitted there never going to be fast as a w/g but hunting dogs ain’t just about out an out speed anymore a clever determined runner gets the job done. Tbh I think any hints or tips of modern day working dogs you could offer Carl would be a waste of time he’s still hoping for his sabbatical return but a lot as changes since when he was active like the ban and we’ve moved on times changed gotta let him crack on I don’t think there be no line up of people off here wanting to ditch what there running an catching with to opt to get a whippet greyhound the only people I can see using this cross is people that don’t really get out an do a lot of work with a dog but occasionally gets out for the odd nights lamping here an there but attends all the country shows for lure coursing with them but good luck to Carl I think he’d be better off on a racing forum tbh I don’t think many are buying his story’s or waffle on here especially if they’ve been working dogs a while am there still at it Amen to that brother 1 Quote Link to post
fenman1# 724 Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, tatsblisters said: Bang on the money these hybrids aren't going to have the feet on them for the roughest of terrains. I remember back in the day when we used to go up on the moors on the blue hare's and my mates whippet/greyhounds' feet would suffer running over burnt heather and rock screes . Your right mate I had a non ped x pedigree whippet dog was nice size was around 46 47lb killed a serious amou t of foxs for he's breeding super game and fast but by god did he's feet suffer the minute we lamped mountain ground, not even Heather and rock, just rough fields was the only let down with him and he had a low sperm count only had one litter and never kept a pup back as the mother was a saluki x and I was fox mad at the time.. Sorry I didn't now 3 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,638 Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, fenman1# said: Same here down south of Ireland night of killing 30+ rabbits are gone.. People blame the shooters don't get me wrong they had an impact but the worst was the lads ferreting and selling them at greyhound tracks. 30s and 40s ever day taken off land all through summer too wasn't long f***ing the place. 12 tá 15 rabbits is a good night here now. Iv a greyhound bitch here does me if I go out lamping rabbits or my son and nephew have a whippet each. Greyhound is good for around 8 runs but that's OK cause that's an average night here now only thing is she's a bit stiff for couple days after it. I say same to lads ferreting em digging em leaves nothing its a bad craic really 1 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,809 Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 24 minutes ago, poxon said: occasionally gets out for the odd nights lamping That, and common sense, and as has been said, being sensible about what ground you run your dogs on. Something which a lot of people working their dogs these days won't have a lot of choice in, simply because of the amount of lurchers that are around now compared to 30 years ago, and less amount of land to go on, for a few different reasons. 1 Quote Link to post
Tyla 3,179 Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 I'm interested in this cross as a potential future sire but I'd be wanting an old dog that's seen the work and not for a while yet 2 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,809 Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Tyla said: I'm interested in this cross as a potential future sire but I'd be wanting an old dog that's seen the work and not for a while yet I'm pretty sure you'd already have plenty of choices to go for mate, without waiting for someone to create 'a line' of this 'type'. Think it was tatsblisters on here, that made the point of some of the bigger type non peds being 'more or less' the same thing? There must be loads of litters and potential studs available, going through that route? Quote Link to post
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