Carl Williams

[shaaark 10,876]

2 minutes ago, Black neck said:

Stop being pedantic eddie

Well up until fairly recently, I've been ok reading/struggling with many posts on here.  I know not everyone is good at spelling, grammar etc, but I've sometimes had a try at some posts, and given up and moved on, which is a shame, as some of these fellas have some interesting and valid things to say.  But there we are, things move on. 

[mC HULL 13,026]

Same lads that started the rumours about saluki been untrainable thick etc people still believe it lol

They wasn't going to say there fsr superior to the dogs we knock out lol was they

[poxon 5,748]

1 minute ago, shaaark said:

Well up until fairly recently, I've been ok reading/struggling with many posts on here.  I know not everyone is good at spelling, grammar etc, but I've sometimes had a try at some posts, and given up and moved on, which is a shame, as some of these fellas have some interesting and valid things to say.  But there we are, things move on. 

What do you expect it’s a bowline post It’s all a load of poo ain’t it I struggle to put any effort in the minute I start picking my nose interest is gone an I move on 

[Blackmag 6,102]

As soon as I saw I bred the best dog in the country . And will again that was enough for me .empty vessels make the most noise . The best dogs I saw run were owned by humble honest lads who are decent company .and it was a pleasure to watch there dogs run .and theydidn't need to big there dogs up ever .

[fred90 3,251]

1 hour ago, poxon said:

I think running dog books are a waist of time tbh better off experiencing your own experience in the field an making your own memory’s and mind up rather than reading bummed up story’s told by story tellers telling of amazing dogs to sell books they all chatted shit in that era an hay day of amazing lurchers they peddled they were all kissing each other’s arses for a name drop in each other’s books to give some kind of authority of that they were all linked to peddling of there certain xs that they specialise in I know there was a lot of bumming an blowing going I don’t believe none of the shit in any of the books tbh the simple reason why is because none would ever write the drawbacks of the crosses or any shit dogs they had that were duffers/jackers or generally not up to the job the only books I’ve read that ring true with true accounts of good dogs an turds is darcys books an that’s from actual his or other hunters accounts 

 

why so cynical? they didn't write about them because they were no jackers/duffers. they knew best....... loads of us were drawn into it simply because there was nothing else to read. 

[poxon 5,748]

17 minutes ago, fred90 said:

why so cynical? they didn't write about them because they were no jackers/duffers. they knew best....... loads of us were drawn into it simply because there was nothing else to read. 

If they didn’t write about it it didn’t happenI suppose your right fred not a lot else to read. 

[SheepChaser 8,089]

Whatever you say about Plummer etc, and fantasist he may have been, but his books did inspire a lot of young lads to get a dog and get out there, and for their time they read well and the photos were good. Just got to take them for what they are, a bit of light hearted hunting themed entertainment. 

[shaaark 10,876]

On 26/05/2021 at 20:38, SheepChaser said:

Whatever you say about Plummer etc, and fantasist he may have been, but his books did inspire a lot of young lads to get a dog and get out there, and for their time they read well and the photos were good. Just got to take them for what they are, a bit of light hearted hunting themed entertainment. 

Yes, but a lot of people didn't take it as light hearted, hunting themed entertainment, and took it as 'gospel'.  Not me, before you think otherwise.  But I personally think that the tripe he wrote about his terriers and lurchers catching x amount by the time they were 4, 5, 6 months old etc etc, is a lot of the problem why many newcomers getting into dogs and hunting, are expecting WAY TOO MUCH of their pups and  getting pissed off that their 8, 9, or 10 month old pup is struggling with catching stuff.  It's still a pup! 

Edited May 30, 2021 by shaaark

[Black neck 16,041]

8 minutes ago, shaaark said:

Yes, but a lot of people didn't take it as light hearted, hunting themed entertainment, and took it as 'gospel'.  Not me, before you think otherwise.  But I personally think that the tripe he wrote about his terriers and lurchers catching x amount by the time they were 4, 5, 6 months old etc etc, is a lot of the problem why many newcomers getting into dogs and hunting, are ecpecting WAY TOO MUCH of their pups and  getting pissed off that their 8, 9, or 10 month old pup is struggling with catching stuff.  It's still a pup! 

You know by 7 month if the be any good or not

[eastcoast 4,162]

10 minutes ago, shaaark said:

Yes, but a lot of people didn't take it as light hearted, hunting themed entertainment, and took it as 'gospel'.  Not me, before you think otherwise.  But I personally think that the tripe he wrote about his terriers and lurchers catching x amount by the time they were 4, 5, 6 months old etc etc, is a lot of the problem why many newcomers getting into dogs and hunting, are ecpecting WAY TOO MUCH of their pups and  getting pissed off that their 8, 9, or 10 month old pup is struggling with catching stuff.  It's still a pup! 

I remember reading something somewhere that he wrote stating expect a young lurcher to run over a 100 rabbits before catching 1. I found it to be a strange thing to write but have seen lurchers that make very hard work of catching a rabbit. Not something I've experienced with whippets or greyhounds or crosses between the 2.

 

[shaaark 10,876]

1 hour ago, Black neck said:

You know by 7 month if the be any good or not

I know you're jesting blacky lol, but none of my pups have ever been asked/tried to catch anything on purpose, different when you're out on a walk and a rabbit gets up and they chase it, before they are about 13/14 months, and then it'll be some easy as I can make it, lamped rabbits for a while.

But that's me, always been the same.  My old man and his mate kept greyhounds, from the 70's til very early 80's, and used to stress to me about leaving a running dog mature a bit and let it 'grow into itself' before starting em properly.

Edited May 26, 2021 by shaaark

[shaaark 10,876]

2 minutes ago, eastcoast said:

I remember reading something somewhere that he wrote stating expect a young lurcher to run over a 100 rabbits before catching 1. I found it to be a strange thing to write but have seen lurchers that make very hard work of catching a rabbit. Not something I've experienced with whippets or greyhounds or crosses between the 2.

 

Well there we are, if someone expects a young dog to run a 100 rabbits before catching one, the dog is obviously too young! 

[eastcoast 4,162]

3 minutes ago, shaaark said:

Well there we are, if someone expects a young dog to run a 100 rabbits before catching one, the dog is obviously too young! 

I think the term he used was "sapling"

[eastcoast 4,162]

This 100 rabbits thing he cited. In places like that not only would I expect my terriers to catch the odd 1 but I would expect myself to take pick the occasional bunny .

[shaaark 10,876]

41 minutes ago, baker boy said:

Or fckn useless

Or, ............. THE DOG'S TOOOO YOUNG!!