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I like to see a close bond between handler and dog... or, at least a level of understanding. Most young dogs soon learn from their handlers reactions to various animals, what is fair game to hunt, and

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its what a dog can do and what a dog cant do. I have a friend that has three well breed lurchers all monsters on any quarry but will not even entertain the idea of touching his daughters pet rabbit. Rear a dog how you wish if you act as the alpha the sabordantes (the dogs) will kill what you expect to be killed if your react to a type lof animal in a way thats is not kill orientated then the dog wont purse or shouldnt.

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i don't want to start an argument here but,when people post a topic like this,which i think is a very good one,they have to be able to accept other peoples difference of opinions,starting this topic and then saying they don't want answers cause they know it allwhistling.gif ,i for one don't know it all and would like to see other peoples opinions,if we all knew it all there would be no place for a great forum like this where WE CAN ALL LEARN SOMETHING NEW,cheers and atbthumbs.gif

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had dogs all my life but just got my first lurcher so not sure if i qualify to have an opinion on this but i think we need to give dogs more credit i just think it doesnt attack cats or hens because it can tell the differance from chicken and pheasant the same as a lurcher will kill a fox but doesnt kill another dog that maybe of similar colour,size and hight it meets on walks. a wild animal acts different to domesticated animals. also as other people have said body language is a massive factor when your in the field hunting with your dog or dogs your acting very different your on the look out, focused, checking hidding areas and giving certain commands and so on all the things u wouldnt do say in your garden or on a farm. just my opinion and maybe i just do the training and let the dog do the rest and not think about to much. good post and replies and hope i dont get slaughtered LOL :thumbs:

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had dogs all my life but just got my first lurcher so not sure if i qualify to have an opinion on this but i think we need to give dogs more credit i just think it doesnt attack cats or hens because it can tell the differance from chicken and pheasant the same as a lurcher will kill a fox but doesnt kill another dog that maybe of similar colour,size and hight it meets on walks. a wild animal acts different to domesticated animals. also as other people have said body language is a massive factor when your in the field hunting with your dog or dogs your acting very different your on the look out, focused, checking hidding areas and giving certain commands and so on all the things u wouldnt do say in your garden or on a farm. just my opinion and maybe i just do the training and let the dog do the rest and not think about to much. good post and replies and hope i dont get slaughtered LOL :thumbs:

well 1st of all your comments are a load of

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

very well spoken words lol!!! well said mate

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had dogs all my life but just got my first lurcher so not sure if i qualify to have an opinion on this but i think we need to give dogs more credit i just think it doesnt attack cats or hens because it can tell the differance from chicken and pheasant the same as a lurcher will kill a fox but doesnt kill another dog that maybe of similar colour,size and hight it meets on walks. a wild animal acts different to domesticated animals. also as other people have said body language is a massive factor when your in the field hunting with your dog or dogs your acting very different your on the look out, focused, checking hidding areas and giving certain commands and so on all the things u wouldnt do say in your garden or on a farm. just my opinion and maybe i just do the training and let the dog do the rest and not think about to much. good post and replies and hope i dont get slaughtered LOL :thumbs:

well 1st of all your comments are a load of

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

very well spoken words lol!!! well said mate

 

LOL LOL u proper got me then LOL fair play mate and cheers :clapper::notworthy::thumbs:

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had dogs all my life but just got my first lurcher so not sure if i qualify to have an opinion on this but i think we need to give dogs more credit i just think it doesnt attack cats or hens because it can tell the differance from chicken and pheasant the same as a lurcher will kill a fox but doesnt kill another dog that maybe of similar colour,size and hight it meets on walks. a wild animal acts different to domesticated animals. also as other people have said body language is a massive factor when your in the field hunting with your dog or dogs your acting very different your on the look out, focused, checking hidding areas and giving certain commands and so on all the things u wouldnt do say in your garden or on a farm. just my opinion and maybe i just do the training and let the dog do the rest and not think about to much. good post and replies and hope i dont get slaughtered LOL :thumbs:

well 1st of all your comments are a load of

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

very well spoken words lol!!! well said mate

 

LOL LOL u proper got me then LOL fair play mate and cheers :clapper::notworthy::thumbs:

:thumbs: glad you liked it mate!!!

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I like to see a close bond between handler and dog... or, at least a level of understanding. Most young dogs soon learn from their handlers reactions to various animals, what is fair game to hunt, and what is to be ignored...

 

I would also be brave enough to say that any dog will instantly know the difference between say a stoat and a ferret, or a pheasant and a hen, by scent. to a dog they are very very different, even a weasel and stoat will be completely different scents and very distinguishable to any dogs nose. how the dog reacts will be down to its previous encounters with said animals.

 

I had a wee scare one night out lamping with bagforthebadgers of this site, we pulled up at a remote farm lane on some of my permision, and headed down a stoney track, shone the lamp and seen a fox heading up the track towards us... it quickly jumped into the hedge and into a freshly drilled field.... we found a gap slipped a half bull/grey over the fence and had a quick flash, just enough for the now flat-out lurcher to glimpse the fox.... when we thought he would be closing on his prey, we illuminated the field, and too our amazement we realised that this was no fox :o but a rough coated red terrier cross thing pelting accross the field :icon_eek: .... i cant tell you how glad i was to see the lurcher, almost up-to the dog, simply stop and look around, as if to say, what the fuk?! :laugh:

 

for me I find every day is different, and each time im out presents new scenarios, chalenges and oppertunities, therefore ill forever be learning and adapting... its imposible to have been in every situation and to know it all, as there are infinate situations to be in and infinate new experiences to enjoy... until you get old and die anyways :laugh:

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its what a dog can do and what a dog cant do. I have a friend that has three well breed lurchers all monsters on any quarry but will not even entertain the idea of touching his daughters pet rabbit. Rear a dog how you wish if you act as the alpha the sabordantes (the dogs) will kill what you expect to be killed if your react to a type lof animal in a way thats is not kill orientated then the dog wont purse or shouldnt.

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I like to see a close bond between handler and dog... or, at least a level of understanding. Most young dogs soon learn from their handlers reactions to various animals, what is fair game to hunt, and what is to be ignored...

 

I would also be brave enough to say that any dog will instantly know the difference between say a stoat and a ferret, or a pheasant and a hen, by scent. to a dog they are very very different, even a weasel and stoat will be completely different scents and very distinguishable to any dogs nose. how the dog reacts will be down to its previous encounters with said animals.

 

I had a wee scare one night out lamping with bagforthebadgers of this site, we pulled up at a remote farm lane on some of my permision, and headed down a stoney track, shone the lamp and seen a fox heading up the track towards us... it quickly jumped into the hedge and into a freshly drilled field.... we found a gap slipped a half bull/grey over the fence and had a quick flash, just enough for the now flat-out lurcher to glimpse the fox.... when we thought he would be closing on his prey, we illuminated the field, and too our amazement we realised that this was no fox :o but a rough coated red terrier cross thing pelting accross the field :icon_eek: .... i cant tell you how glad i was to see the lurcher, almost up-to the dog, simply stop and look around, as if to say, what the fuk?! :laugh:

 

for me I find every day is different, and each time im out presents new scenarios, chalenges and oppertunities, therefore ill forever be learning and adapting... its imposible to have been in every situation and to know it all, as there are infinate situations to be in and infinate new experiences to enjoy... until you get old and die anyways :laugh:

 

 

Briliant WRITE that mate. Explained alot of what i was trying to say. Apart from the quote, , i know it all. Didnt mean like that at all. Altho i do feel i have been in nearly every situation i could with my dogs, its hard not to have been when you go out every day into the countryside..

 

I will always be learning but i am sure you would agree with me that when you read through this post, no one has given a reason for what i said at the beginning, that you didnt already know, thats what i meant pal. Because there cant be another explanation, only to ask a dog...

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just to add a lot of lurcher people keep domesticated animals. the lurcher can easily learn what to chase and what not to chase

 

 

yes correct but they dont keep fox, weasels, stoats, pheasants, etc. Are you trying to say it isnt as clever as we think and that we are responsible for the brains.?Coz we aint...

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What always set my mind thinking is the inteligence of a lurcher when it comes to its prey....

 

I'm not looking for answers or asking a question, as nobody could answer, we all have our own views and pheorys....

 

My lurchers will run up to a hen or chicken in the field, stop and turn away. They will run up to or flush a pheasant, and kill it!

 

They will look at a cat, turn away. They munch and throw squirrels about for fun!!

 

They work all day with ferrets.. If a stoat bolts they will kill it!!

 

A small dog will bolt out of the bushes in the park, or mooch over, they will stand over it and sniff the air, then either play or walk away.. A fox bushes and its history..

 

A small horse, donkey, calf is looked at and turned away. A deer is ran for there lives....

 

lambs are stared at because of thier bleeting, then a frisky roll over and never another glance... a small wild animal of any discription will be hunted down!!

 

Lurchers are so tuned in to there prey, and seemingly know the difference bewteen a domestic animal to a wild animal.... just boggles me hmm.gifhmm.gifhmm.gif

 

Lurchers are so tuned into us, thats how they know the difference between a domestic and a prey animal,

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Lurchers are so tuned into us, thats how they know the difference between a domestic and a prey animal,

 

so, again its use who are taking the credit for the inteligence of the lurcher....so Domestic cat feral cat.....

 

The dog uses HIS brains to read situations, we are also included in his reading of a particular situation, his senses are picking up things from us constantly, and through our actions he learns how to behave in any given senario, eg, never broke a bitch i had to sheep, but never had a prob with her and stock, why ,because they were of no interest to me and because of that , were of f**k all good to her either,,

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just to add a lot of lurcher people keep domesticated animals. the lurcher can easily learn what to chase and what not to chase

 

 

yes correct but they dont keep fox, weasels, stoats, pheasants, etc. Are you trying to say it isnt as clever as we think and that we are responsible for the brains.?Coz we aint...

did i say that we are responsible for the brains ? no. but we are responsible for what it chases

 

 

Bullshit m,ate!! If a dog isnt going to chase a rabbit, you cant make it.... there are people on here who have never been able to break certain dogs to stock no matter what!!

If what you were saying was true, it would mean all lurchers would do fox...

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