Need Help

[labsnlurchers 39]

 

I am hoping to get a bit of advise from some more experienced terrier owners. I have a 6 month old bitch, she was given to us because she kept running away from her previous owners and they had enough of chasing after her! I don't know very much about terriers, lurchers and gundogs are more my forte but i thought 'it cant be much different' HOW WRONG WAS I!!!

 

I think she is Patterdale x Lakeland but I'm not 100% sure. Her old owners did not really know what she was as they only bought her for their kids so didn't pay any attention to her breeding. Her parents were working dogs and thats about all they could tell me. Any other opinions on what breeding she is?

 

We had problems when she first came with her coming back when we called her. She starts to run away so i shout her, she stops for a second, looks back and then carries on running away. I thought yeah she will stop when she realises we aren't chasing after her, she didnt stop, just kept going over the common outside our house. In the end i had to go and get her. About a month of working on this and we are about 75% better. Any advise much appreciated!

 

We took her out this evening with the lurcher to see if we could start her bushing a few rabbits. She did OK for her first time but we had severe problems with her recall again! She would come running back to us when we called but then she would just run right past us like we weren't even there! In the end she ran off under the gate and onto the lane, i had to go and get her again! Is this hunting on likely to be something that we will never stop? because if it is then i will stop trying to get her out of it lol! Is there any advise anyone can give me on getting her to hunt cover a bit closer instead of rushin on ahead or will this just come with experience?

 

Thanks in advance

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

I had the same problem when letting a young terrier off on her own, but once I took her out more with another older terrier, the pup has more or less followed the older more experienced dog around and I didn't have any problems with her coming back because she's follow the other dog back to us.

 

It's just something you've got to work on, and it takes more time with some than it does others.

 

Best of luck with the pup.

[fellpack 7]

Ive got the same problem (well dont see it as a problem) one of my terriers a fell laky X patt was breed to run with the hounds so I cant stop him running. I have seen him obey every command and suddenly take thick put the ears back and gone but will return to the same spot he bolted from. This type of dog needs loads of hunting a wee walk frustrates them they are a coil the longer it takes for them to burn the steam the more they want to bolt.

[labsnlurchers 39]

I had the same problem when letting a young terrier off on her own, but once I took her out more with another older terrier, the pup has more or less followed the older more experienced dog around and I didn't have any problems with her coming back because she's follow the other dog back to us.

 

It's just something you've got to work on, and it takes more time with some than it does others.

 

Best of luck with the pup.

 

Thanks

 

Will have to try and tag along with someone with an older terrier although we had 2 lurchers with us and they were coming back fine but she didn't bother following them, just wanted to hunt on all the time! Anything is worth a try though.

 

I have a feeling this terrier will be the death of me! lol

 

We tried every trick in the book tonight, fussing the other dogs to try and get her close enough to grab, walking away with the other dogs in the opposite direction to her, getting on my knees and calling her to me, she is just oblivious and very stubbon!

[labsnlurchers 39]

Ive got the same problem (well dont see it as a problem) one of my terriers a fell laky X patt was breed to run with the hounds so I cant stop him running. I have seen him obey every command and suddenly take thick put the ears back and gone but will return to the same spot he bolted from. This type of dog needs loads of hunting a wee walk frustrates them they are a coil the longer it takes for them to burn the steam the more they want to bolt.

 

This is my first terrier so i dont really know much about bringing them on and i dont want to ruin her. On some of our land it wouldnt matter how far away she hunted on but other areas are next to roads and i dont want her to get squished but am i doing the right thing going to get her or should i just leave her go and wait for her to come back? I could take her on the land with no roads but then i dont want to loose her either. I really have the feeling that she wouldn't come back, she seems quite content with running away!

[gnipper 6,589]

Long line might work but they soon realise when its off. Shock collar will sort it even faster.

[tb25 4,627]

where are you from pal you can come for a walk with me and mine if you wish.i would i be very carfull around eny holes you mite have were you are pal atb

[labsnlurchers 39]

where are you from pal you can come for a walk with me and mine if you wish.i would i be very carfull around eny holes you mite have were you are pal atb

 

Aberystwyth in Wales.

 

When i take her out should i have a collar on her so i can locate her just incase she goes to ground? She pays attention to the holes on our land but as of yet hasn't attempted to enter......touch wood.

 

As you can probably tell i am complete beginner when it comes to working terriers so any advise is really appreciated.

[waidmann 105]

yes bud keep the locator on her if you have one

she will be coming to the stage of going to ground soon i would think. recall should be the same as with the other dogs bud,just a little more testing they can be stubborn little buggers

if you have a big improvement then keep at it(its harder to break a bad habit than to introduce a good one).

 

chin up

 

waidmann

 

p.s. patience is avirtue as my mom used to say

[jusar whippets 10]

You seem as though you are doing all the right things, but nothing seems to be sticking. If she won't long line, then you could try a shock collar, as soon as you give the stop command and she ignores you, then it's an immediate nick on the collar for a couple of seconds.

 

Not ideal, but you either persevere and go back to the very basics and keep at it and hope that it works, whereas the shock collar will stop her immediatley.

[tb25 4,627]

a mate had the same problem he got one ov these shock collers in no time the dog dint leave his side it only took lest than a week

[skycat 6,174]

If you haven't got or can't get a shock collar then I've found that by running them down, roaring at them, scruffing them and putting the fear of YOU into them that works just as well, but needs a fair amount of energy and perseverence. Always a problem when you take on a second hand dog even if its still a pup and its been allowed to get away with things, but IMO you'll need to be VERY firm with her. Most terriers are actually quite sensitive if you get on top of them early. I always give my dogs lots of love and attention, but woe betide them if they step out of line, BUT I always respect them too.

 

YOu can't give a terrier a hiding and expect it to just take it: many will fight back if they feel really threatened so I tend to scruff them and roar at them whilst eyeballing them: take a dog off its feet and dangle it in the air and it is automatically in a position of inferiority.

 

As far as the running back to you and then running straight past you is concerned: a good rugby tackle works wonders as long as you don't squash the dog! I also throw a handful of rope leads at dogs that do the running past thing: stops them in their tracks for a milli second during which you call the dog, then praise like mad whilst you keep hold of it, getting its focus back on you: don't expect a young dog to just stand there and accept the praise as it will already be hyped up and wanting to get off again: you need to physically restrain it whilst it calms down enough to change focus.

 

They just get so obsessed and excited with the whole hunting thing which is why consistent leadership is the only way to go. Don't ever give the dog any atttention if it comes up to you at home: ignore it completely until YOU call it to you for a fuss or its food and I've found that young terriers are better off spending a good portion of the day at home in a kennel and run, preferably one where it can see all the comings and goings at home, but it is not in a position to tear about and get hyped up with other dogs.

 

Hope this helps.

[BRYKAY 2]

GET RID OF HER! (TO ME) NICE LOOKING BITCH MATE, ATB IN SORTING HER OUT.

HAVE YOU TRIED HER RUNNING LOOSE WHILE SHOOTING? JUST A THAUGHT AS MOST DOGS LOOK OR RUN BACK

WHEN A SHOTGUN IS FIRED? TRY HER ROUGH SHOOTING RABBITS & WITH MAYBE A FEW KILLS SHE WONT DISTANCE HERSELF TOO

FAR FROM YOU WHEN SHE KNOWS WHAT YOUR BOTH AFTER?

Edited May 8, 2010 by BRYKAY