Kits

[Jamie m 668]

dont worry , i will be culling 90% of mine anyway

Pointless breeding then init if you only need that percentage what if you cull all the guduns an keep the shite ,

[scothunter 12,609]

90% and whats that got to do with this thread?

[chimp 299]

hehe , gotta love the biters

 

i handle mine and havent lost one yet due the jil eating them

[Kay 3,709]

Just depends on your jill & if she will tolerate you poking around the nest box ... the last pregnant jill i had here gave birth to one jill kit & i just knew something wasnt right ... i rather feel in this case if i hadn't gone poking round the nest box & got her out to check her she would have died as she had a dead kit inside her that she wouldn't have passed on her own & would have got sick

[lorelei0922 2]

Same deal with my current nursing jill Cammy....

 

If i hadn't been paying close attention i wouldn't have noticed the increased lethargy and exhaustion on day 45 with no kits...

 

took her to the vet.. ended up with a C section ... could have lost her... as it was 4 of the 6 kits were too weak (due to being overdue and close to demise) to nurse, the entire litter had to be hand fed the first 24 hours... by then we lost 4...

 

If we breed our animals we take responsiblity for them in that condition... and that means monitoring that condition.

[Ideation 8,216]

Hello,

 

SOrry guys i was in a foul mood this morning and the tone of what i had written was a little extreme and negative. I was just talking about the uneccessary desire to take all your kits out and take photos of them on their day of birth. However i concede that it is each to their own and many people do this and no kits are killed. However i don't think it should be promoted as good practice, as although YOUR jill may be fine with it many are not no matter how well handled and its not good to encourage people into something that could risk kits. This change in otherwise friendly jills is due to hormonal changes. It's just not worth it imo other than to give them a very brief health check, there is little you can do for them that the jill can't.

 

I dunno - they are her babies not mine so i respect her and give her space at least for the first couple of weeks. And then if the nest box needs changing i do it when the jill is feeding, but to be honest i usually leave it as much as possible, one jill and a litter of kits dont make much mess in the size nest boxes i give them.

 

And yes i was referring to human ailments such as the common cold which kits ARE very susceptible to.

 

I'm sorry i upset folk and hit a nerve but this IS an open forum and although the tone was off the advice wasn't and i think it was a more useful post to the community than a half dozen pictures of day old kits.

 

Jai.

[wullieh 53]

dont worry , i will be culling 90% of mine anyway

Primate you just waiting for me to jump in there aye but think i might aswell just say folk will see how much of a plonker you are if you have 10 kits you going to kill 9. :wankerzo4: :wankerzo4:

[Kay 3,709]

Hello,

 

SOrry guys i was in a foul mood this morning and the tone of what i had written was a little extreme and negative. I was just talking about the uneccessary desire to take all your kits out and take photos of them on their day of birth. However i concede that it is each to their own and many people do this and no kits are killed. However i don't think it should be promoted as good practice, as although YOUR jill may be fine with it many are not no matter how well handled and its not good to encourage people into something that could risk kits. This change in otherwise friendly jills is due to hormonal changes. It's just not worth it imo other than to give them a very brief health check, there is little you can do for them that the jill can't.

 

I dunno - they are her babies not mine so i respect her and give her space at least for the first couple of weeks. And then if the nest box needs changing i do it when the jill is feeding, but to be honest i usually leave it as much as possible, one jill and a litter of kits dont make much mess in the size nest boxes i give them.

 

And yes i was referring to human ailments such as the common cold which kits ARE very susceptible to.

 

I'm sorry i upset folk and hit a nerve but this IS an open forum and although the tone was off the advice wasn't and i think it was a more useful post to the community than a half dozen pictures of day old kits.

 

Jai.

 

I wholeheartedly agree with you in essence i dont think people should be poking about with a camera within hours of them being born ...and i dont doubt that a good lot of kits are lost because of interfering with the nest etc

 

i wouldnt have gone in to my jill if i hadnt thought something was wrong ...i would normally have a look after a week or so even if the jill was very good natured

[The one 8,479]

who really cares what folk do to there own stock anyway as long as there no cruel to them .

[wullieh 53]

I tend to have a quick glance at the litter when the mum is out feeding or removed if need be to allow cage cleaning, but not touch them for the first 2 weeks to make sure there is no dead ones left in the nest that might carry disease and affect the others.

[chimp 299]

now read my next post to that one lol moron

 

dont worry i will give you all my left overs for you to peddle , the question is .... will they all fit in a jiffy bag?

Edited May 6, 2010 by chimp

[ecostorm 2]

To be honest your name says it all buddy... Also scroate comes to mind obviously coz you cant afford jill jabs or a vasectamised hob, ya nob! :wankerzo4:

[chimp 299]

To be honest your name says it all buddy... Also scroate comes to mind obviously coz you cant afford jill jabs or a vasectamised hob, ya nob! :wankerzo4:

 

 

oh come on is that the best you can do ? lol ok ok , ive changed my mind , as it is too late to get rid now , i will peddle them lol

[wullieh 53]

hehe , gotta love the biters

 

i handle mine and havent lost one yet due the jil eating them

I CULL !!! there i said it i didnt last year mind but i will this year, i will keep one for myself and cull the rest. i like my workers and will breed what and cull what i want.

 

and plus i hate to see a jill get dragged down by the kits.

is this not one of your posts on another topic primate????

 

So clear to me you intend on killing and not just trying to get biters.

[chimp 299]

you dont get sarcasam do you ? of course im going to bloody cull lol rather cull then see my ferrets in the hands of a peddlar like you.

 

ive had ferts for over 20 years and a peddlar wont change my mind . you keep lining your pockets and i will just work mine.

 

my line do me well and if i was going to try a different line i would go for a greyhound ferret ( but im in no rush)

 

same as working dogs , true workers arnt sold but gifted (not saying i wouldnt part with my cash tho for the right animal)

 

as for waiting for you to jump ......... well...... say no more

 

 

atb

Edited May 7, 2010 by chimp