FightTheBan 1,147 Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 (edited) so u recon therse no bull blood in patterdales do u... Of course there is, as ther is way back in alot of terriers. But theres bull and theres bull. Ive no problems with someone using game tested bull blood in a line of terriers as and when it is necessary - but I dont agree with people crossing them with showy shite staffys that never see a days graft and their only use is guarding their owners weed stash/bucky/burberry hat. This kind of bull blood would be far more detrimental than beneficial to a line of terriers. I guess the owner has to decide whether:- 1 the line needs bull and for what reasons 2 Can this deficit not be introduced from another terrier 3 If the bitch needs to be hardened up that much is she worthwhile breeding off at all But to be fair, I doubt the original poster thought about all this and opted for a litter that will look very inpressive in the flesh but produce very limited sucess workwise. If he can prove me wrong in 2/3/4/5 years time...I will eat my hat Just my opinion FTB Edited May 28, 2010 by FightTheBan Quote Link to post
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 who seid these where breed to go down holes....? master pool didnt.. This is the working terrier section...there isn't a section for pet dogs, so obviously this will have to do in the meantime. FTB Quote Link to post
busher 145 Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 so u recon therse no bull blood in patterdales do u... Of course there is, as ther is way back in alot of terriers. But theres bull and theres bull. Ive no problems with someone using game tested bull blood in a line of terriers as and when it is necessary - but I dont agree with people crossing them with showy shite staffys that never see a days graft and their only use is guarding their owners weed stash/bucky/burberry hat. This kind of bull blood would be far more detrimental than beneficial to a line of terriers. I guess the owner has to decide whether:- 1 the line needs bull and for what reasons 2 Can this deficit not be introduced from another terrier 3 If the bitch needs to be hardened up that much is she worthwhile breeding off at all But to be fair, I doubt the original poster thought about all this and opted for a litter that will look very inpressive in the flesh but produce very limited sucess workwise. If he can prove me wrong in 2/3/4/5 years time...I will eat my hat Just my opinion FTB who says its not a working staff'' u f*****g sumise a lot mate'' iv seen alot ov ur posts on here befour'' slating lads n nothing good to say about any thing thay say in there posts.. have u seen these dogs that the guys breed off' have u seen um work'' the patt and the staff'' have u f**k'' like u say its just ur opinion' n thats right OPINION... these pups will be grafting with r bushing pack at 12mth no problem'' eat u hat''' GET f*****g CHEWING... Quote Link to post
busher 145 Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 who seid these where breed to go down holes....? master pool didnt.. This is the working terrier section...there isn't a section for pet dogs, so obviously this will have to do in the meantime. FTB what a load ov shite'' but thats nothing new with ur replys... Quote Link to post
Ashover rabbit dogs 76 Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 i personaly dont use bull in my terriers. my terriers are hard enough and dont need to be tainted by bull blood, in my experiance it makes them mute and a little too hard,when you work foxes as often as i do you cant afford for them to be too hard, getting bashed up only leads to dogs being in kennels injured and rendering them useless. 2 Quote Link to post
wirral countryman 2,110 Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 i personaly dont use bull in my terriers. my terriers are hard enough and dont need to be tainted by bull blood, in my experiance it makes them mute and a little too hard,when you work foxes as often as i do you cant afford for them to be too hard, getting bashed up only leads to dogs being in kennels injured and rendering them useless. good post,very well said,atbwirralman Quote Link to post
jamie2004live 163 Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 theres certainly a place for bull in a line of terrier bringing a range of good qualities and improvements look at wheelers stuff, and the aggression one is complete bullshit thats entirely down to upbringing (fact). seems like theres a lot of misinformed opinions surrounding these crosses. own or see a gud un in action before commenting!!!!!!! Quote Link to post
lukeh 27 Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 i got to be honest i own a pup my self bred tht way and cant wait to bring him on now i have my house and landlord sorted but i think when mine does prove his self if he does in years to come i will put him over a pure bred bitch so i have 3/4 pat 1/4 bull .. but a lot of my friends have the half cross and there are awesome earth dogs .. hope this dont turn into a row just my opinion and my view on my terrier hope ya pups turn out well for you bud here a pic of him Quote Link to post
The Breeder 156 Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 theres certainly a place for bull in a line of terrier bringing a range of good qualities and improvements look at wheelers stuff, and the aggression one is complete bullshit thats entirely down to upbringing (fact). seems like theres a lot of misinformed opinions surrounding these crosses. own or see a gud un in action before commenting!!!!!!! Jamie when I talk about aggression I mean kennel fights a few lads I know had dogs from K.G. back in the 80s when they were not working they had bad kennel fights dogs and bitches one dog had to be muzzled to be mated I have travelled 600 miles round trip for a lining If more lads did this there would be better lines of pats and Russells with out using Bull Blood Quote Link to post
Guest clash Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 i got to be honest i own a pup my self bred tht way and cant wait to bring him on now i have my house and landlord sorted but i think when mine does prove his self if he does in years to come i will put him over a pure bred bitch so i have 3/4 pat 1/4 bull .. but a lot of my friends have the half cross and there are awesome earth dogs .. hope this dont turn into a row just my opinion and my view on my terrier hope ya pups turn out well for you bud here a pic of him May be just the picture playing with my eyesight,Luke. If not,then that chain length & the block wall,look like an accident waiting to happen. Quote Link to post
stanley 5 Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 theres certainly a place for bull in a line of terrier bringing a range of good qualities and improvements look at wheelers stuff, and the aggression one is complete bullshit thats entirely down to upbringing (fact). seems like theres a lot of misinformed opinions surrounding these crosses. own or see a gud un in action before commenting!!!!!!! Jamie when I talk about aggression I mean kennel fights a few lads I know had dogs from K.G. back in the 80s when they were not working they had bad kennel fights dogs and bitches one dog had to be muzzled to be mated I have travelled 600 miles round trip for a lining If more lads did this there would be better lines of pats and Russells with out using Bull Blood thats purely down to using shite bulls any old dog that looks hard.if you get a good line of bulls there a good attritbute to have Quote Link to post
fish 148 Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 i got to be honest i own a pup my self bred tht way and cant wait to bring him on now i have my house and landlord sorted but i think when mine does prove his self if he does in years to come i will put him over a pure bred bitch so i have 3/4 pat 1/4 bull .. but a lot of my friends have the half cross and there are awesome earth dogs .. hope this dont turn into a row just my opinion and my view on my terrier hope ya pups turn out well for you bud here a pic of him May be just the picture playing with my eyesight,Luke. If not,then that chain length & the block wall,look like an accident waiting to happen. your right there bud Quote Link to post
tigerdog2 8 Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 any pics of your pups mate ??? Quote Link to post
lukeh 27 Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 ello lads yh thought tht me self its where me bron in law put it .. i went down yesterday and moved it right away cause i said if he saw a cat or anything and jumped tht he would be hanging .. thanks for the consideration anyways but i have a pic to prove its changed aswell lol Quote Link to post
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