tigerdog2 8 Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 there is good sense in breeding for yer self and friends and a supose there is always a little cost in bringing the pups on (8 weeks),but new lads would never get the chance to gain well bred diggin dogs if the older guys only ever did it this way ,150 quid is nowt for a well bred pup,it takes time to know these little dogs and the [bANNED TEXT] lads who own and work them properly !! Quote Link to post
EPTR 4 Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Some lads in the eighties bid over £1000 for plummers because they were good working lines ...some are still good working earth dogs ..but due to the amount of plummers being bred they are cheaper. I've given dogs away many many times, and asked for returns in the future but the owners never oblidge..so now everyone but the closet of friends pay..and if they want another (which is the norm) and the owners become reliable and trustworthy then they usualy do very well from me. Infact one bitch and a dog are going for free to ireland as a promise i made months ago.. Check out countrymans for the prices of some mongrol lurchers..nuf said! i can gaurantee you that no genuine digging man in ireland(i mean genuine,not the rest)would have a plummer dog in their yard.they never have or will stick the pace of long digs of many hours over many seasons.they maybe fine to kill a few rats and hunt some cover but they are not working dogs. For those lovely irish lads ..we have sent digging dogs over many times and in fact one english breeder now in ireland sold dogs to a southern hunt.. For those looking for dogs in Ireland they are there but spread about and because they have a tendency to get nicked (due to there superior working ability) are kept close and not talked about. Quote Link to post
Guest dee mac Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Some lads in the eighties bid over £1000 for plummers because they were good working lines ...some are still good working earth dogs ..but due to the amount of plummers being bred they are cheaper. I've given dogs away many many times, and asked for returns in the future but the owners never oblidge..so now everyone but the closet of friends pay..and if they want another (which is the norm) and the owners become reliable and trustworthy then they usualy do very well from me. Infact one bitch and a dog are going for free to ireland as a promise i made months ago.. Check out countrymans for the prices of some mongrol lurchers..nuf said! i can gaurantee you that no genuine digging man in ireland(i mean genuine,not the rest)would have a plummer dog in their yard.they never have or will stick the pace of long digs of many hours over many seasons.they maybe fine to kill a few rats and hunt some cover but they are not working dogs. For those lovely irish lads ..we have sent digging dogs over many times and in fact one english breeder now in ireland sold dogs to a southern hunt.. For those looking for dogs in Ireland they are there but spread about and because they have a tendency to get nicked (due to there superior working ability) are kept close and not talked about. there you go again spouting your self importance i know this if someone stole a plummer as a digging dog they get a big shock theyd probably break back into the kennells and leave it back why bother just get any terrier and enter it too ratting they ll thrive at it same as a collie ,westie, yorkie come too think about it most dogs with a pulse will take too ratting Quote Link to post
jack crowley 5 Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 supior working ability my hole Quote Link to post
dave a 24 Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Some lads in the eighties bid over £1000 for plummers because they were good working lines ...some are still good working earth dogs ..but due to the amount of plummers being bred they are cheaper. I've given dogs away many many times, and asked for returns in the future but the owners never oblidge..so now everyone but the closet of friends pay..and if they want another (which is the norm) and the owners become reliable and trustworthy then they usualy do very well from me. Infact one bitch and a dog are going for free to ireland as a promise i made months ago.. Check out countrymans for the prices of some mongrol lurchers..nuf said! i can gaurantee you that no genuine digging man in ireland(i mean genuine,not the rest)would have a plummer dog in their yard.they never have or will stick the pace of long digs of many hours over many seasons.they maybe fine to kill a few rats and hunt some cover but they are not working dogs. For those lovely irish lads ..we have sent digging dogs over many times and in fact one english breeder now in ireland sold dogs to a southern hunt.. For those looking for dogs in Ireland they are there but spread about and because they have a tendency to get nicked (due to there superior working ability) are kept close and not talked about. nobody who steals a plummer does it because of superior working ability i can assure you.as for the hunt that bought dogs,maybe they want dogs that will leave after five or ten minutes if a fox won't bolt,plummers would be ideal for that. Quote Link to post
dev 226 Posted May 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 just laughed my fukin ass off!!! " a tendency to get nicked due to their superior working ability" that just cheered me up!! Quote Link to post
Guest busterdog Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Some lads in the eighties bid over £1000 for plummers because they were good working lines ...some are still good working earth dogs ..but due to the amount of plummers being bred they are cheaper. I've given dogs away many many times, and asked for returns in the future but the owners never oblidge..so now everyone but the closet of friends pay..and if they want another (which is the norm) and the owners become reliable and trustworthy then they usualy do very well from me. Infact one bitch and a dog are going for free to ireland as a promise i made months ago.. Check out countrymans for the prices of some mongrol lurchers..nuf said! i can gaurantee you that no genuine digging man in ireland(i mean genuine,not the rest)would have a plummer dog in their yard.they never have or will stick the pace of long digs of many hours over many seasons.they maybe fine to kill a few rats and hunt some cover but they are not working dogs. For those lovely irish lads ..we have sent digging dogs over many times and in fact one english breeder now in ireland sold dogs to a southern hunt.. For those looking for dogs in Ireland they are there but spread about and because they have a tendency to get nicked (due to there superior working ability) are kept close and not talked about. The more you talk the less we listen...... Quote Link to post
fionn 21 Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 (edited) Some lads in the eighties bid over £1000 for plummers because they were good working lines ...some are still good working earth dogs ..but due to the amount of plummers being bred they are cheaper. I've given dogs away many many times, and asked for returns in the future but the owners never oblidge..so now everyone but the closet of friends pay..and if they want another (which is the norm) and the owners become reliable and trustworthy then they usualy do very well from me. Infact one bitch and a dog are going for free to ireland as a promise i made months ago.. Check out countrymans for the prices of some mongrol lurchers..nuf said! i can gaurantee you that no genuine digging man in ireland(i mean genuine,not the rest)would have a plummer dog in their yard.they never have or will stick the pace of long digs of many hours over many seasons.they maybe fine to kill a few rats and hunt some cover but they are not working dogs. For those lovely irish lads ..we have sent digging dogs over many times and in fact one english breeder now in ireland sold dogs to a southern hunt.. For those looking for dogs in Ireland they are there but spread about and because they have a tendency to get nicked (due to there superior working ability) are kept close and not talked about. you mean a teagel thats what we call them crosses ur a f*****g joke mate saw one in ireland and he was fanny licker the days of ye sending over working dogs over here are long gone when the likes of you puppy peddlers got hunting banned the true terrierman of england lost out i bet the ban didnt bother you f**k off and dress up in womens clothes like the man that started the breed Edited May 7, 2010 by fionn Quote Link to post
Guest dee mac Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Some lads in the eighties bid over £1000 for plummers because they were good working lines ...some are still good working earth dogs ..but due to the amount of plummers being bred they are cheaper. I've given dogs away many many times, and asked for returns in the future but the owners never oblidge..so now everyone but the closet of friends pay..and if they want another (which is the norm) and the owners become reliable and trustworthy then they usualy do very well from me. Infact one bitch and a dog are going for free to ireland as a promise i made months ago.. Check out countrymans for the prices of some mongrol lurchers..nuf said! i can gaurantee you that no genuine digging man in ireland(i mean genuine,not the rest)would have a plummer dog in their yard.they never have or will stick the pace of long digs of many hours over many seasons.they maybe fine to kill a few rats and hunt some cover but they are not working dogs. For those lovely irish lads ..we have sent digging dogs over many times and in fact one english breeder now in ireland sold dogs to a southern hunt.. For those looking for dogs in Ireland they are there but spread about and because they have a tendency to get nicked (due to there superior working ability) are kept close and not talked about. you mean a teagel thats what we call them crosses ur a f*****g joke mate saw one in ireland and he was fanny licker the days of ye sending over working dogs over here are long gone when the likes of you puppy peddlers got hunting banned the true terrierman of england lost out i bet the ban didnt bother you f**k off and dress up in womens clothes like the man that started the breed well put fionn there is still decent lads over in england that have kept the working dogs strong and fair play too them i can assure you that if rat hunting was banned in the morning this twat would have an all new super breed of some sort ready for the market, money rocks his boat and maybe a bit of cross dressing as well :sick: Quote Link to post
HGN 150 Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 just laughed my fukin ass off!!! " a tendency to get nicked due to their superior working ability" that just cheered me up!! Plummers? I know of many that have been nicked in Ireland - perhaps its not so often an occurence in the UK but in the North West it has happened. i can gaurantee you that no genuine digging man in ireland(i mean genuine,not the rest)would have a plummer dog in their yard.they never have or will stick the pace of long digs of many hours over many seasons.they maybe fine to kill a few rats and hunt some cover but they are not working dogs. Dave I am a newbie but if thats whats plummers do is that not ok? What is the defintion of a 'working dog'? I once fostered a long legged staff/pit who was bred to fight (and cost thousands) and that was to be his 'work' - he was however stolen then passed to a rescue where I fostered it for a while - never bothered anything including my kids yet its work was to fight to the death? If I fancy a plummer for vermin and walking and thats its 'work' whats the problem? You can pretty much train any terrier to go to ground given the chap thats training is the bizz - much like anything else. Surely pedigree is what you pay for? Genes, ground and immediate training? Am I wrong? Is this not what you guys appreciate free and for anyone else not in the know pays for? Quote Link to post
Guest dee mac Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 just laughed my fukin ass off!!! " a tendency to get nicked due to their superior working ability" that just cheered me up!! Plummers? I know of many that have been nicked in Ireland - perhaps its not so often an occurence in the UK but in the North West it has happened. i can gaurantee you that no genuine digging man in ireland(i mean genuine,not the rest)would have a plummer dog in their yard.they never have or will stick the pace of long digs of many hours over many seasons.they maybe fine to kill a few rats and hunt some cover but they are not working dogs. Dave I am a newbie but if thats whats plummers do is that not ok? What is the defintion of a 'working dog'? I once fostered a long legged staff/pit who was bred to fight (and cost thousands) and that was to be his 'work' - he was however stolen then passed to a rescue where I fostered it for a while - never bothered anything including my kids yet its work was to fight to the death? If I fancy a plummer for vermin and walking and thats its 'work' whats the problem? You can pretty much train any terrier to go to ground given the chap thats training is the bizz - much like anything else. Surely pedigree is what you pay for? Genes, ground and immediate training? Am I wrong? Is this not what you guys appreciate free and for anyone else not in the know pays for? your an even bigger muppet! train it to go to ground you s clowns need too get out and watch a proper earth dog work then you s will understand why digging lads get annoyed when people try to say these rat dogs and bushing dogs are on a level par with them ,some times i think its a case of it take s too much effort and hard work too get too the level of a decent digging dogs lets just do some thing simple hype it up and make a few quid Quote Link to post
fionn 21 Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 just laughed my fukin ass off!!! " a tendency to get nicked due to their superior working ability" that just cheered me up!! Plummers? I know of many that have been nicked in Ireland - perhaps its not so often an occurence in the UK but in the North West it has happened. i can gaurantee you that no genuine digging man in ireland(i mean genuine,not the rest)would have a plummer dog in their yard.they never have or will stick the pace of long digs of many hours over many seasons.they maybe fine to kill a few rats and hunt some cover but they are not working dogs. Dave I am a newbie but if thats whats plummers do is that not ok? What is the defintion of a 'working dog'? I once fostered a long legged staff/pit who was bred to fight (and cost thousands) and that was to be his 'work' - he was however stolen then passed to a rescue where I fostered it for a while - never bothered anything including my kids yet its work was to fight to the death? If I fancy a plummer for vermin and walking and thats its 'work' whats the problem? You can pretty much train any terrier to go to ground given the chap thats training is the bizz - much like anything else. Surely pedigree is what you pay for? Genes, ground and immediate training? Am I wrong? Is this not what you guys appreciate free and for anyone else not in the know pays for? as you fostered a dog before you should be totally againts puppy peddlers thats what this person is breeding for money the bigger the ped the bigger the price as all litters dont work where do you think the surplus go into rescuecenters 100 pups we say 50 bithes one litter a year say 5 pups up to 250 plummer a year terrier bred down off this person you cant make a dog go to ground he has to want too Quote Link to post
snowman 37 Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 just laughed my fukin ass off!!! " a tendency to get nicked due to their superior working ability" that just cheered me up!! Plummers? I know of many that have been nicked in Ireland - perhaps its not so often an occurence in the UK but in the North West it has happened. i can gaurantee you that no genuine digging man in ireland(i mean genuine,not the rest)would have a plummer dog in their yard.they never have or will stick the pace of long digs of many hours over many seasons.they maybe fine to kill a few rats and hunt some cover but they are not working dogs. Dave I am a newbie but if thats whats plummers do is that not ok? What is the defintion of a 'working dog'? I once fostered a long legged staff/pit who was bred to fight (and cost thousands) and that was to be his 'work' - he was however stolen then passed to a rescue where I fostered it for a while - never bothered anything including my kids yet its work was to fight to the death? If I fancy a plummer for vermin and walking and thats its 'work' whats the problem? You can pretty much train any terrier to go to ground given the chap thats training is the bizz - much like anything else. Surely pedigree is what you pay for? Genes, ground and immediate training? Am I wrong? Is this not what you guys appreciate free and for anyone else not in the know pays for? as you fostered a dog before you should be totally againts puppy peddlers thats what this person is breeding for money the bigger the ped the bigger the price as all litters dont work where do you think the surplus go into rescuecenters 100 pups we say 50 bithes one litter a year say 5 pups up to 250 plummer a year terrier bred down off this person you cant make a dog go to ground he has to want too in my opinion quote my opinion plummers r shit diggin dogs dont now anybody digging them do u? Quote Link to post
Guest SUPERTED Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 i was just reading the nuttall's zulu thread and the price of pups came up. the price of a nuttall pup seems to be £200/£250. i bought a pup off him 3 years ago, it was £200 then. now i was wondering how much you guys think a decent pup of working breeding is worth at 6/8 weeks old. not just nuttalls, im talking any working bred terrier pups?? how much would you be happy to pay? The reason for anyone breeding, should be to keep a pup themselfs so all costs involved in producing a litter is the money for the pup you keep. Other surplus pups should be placed FOC into trusted kennels were they are worked to a standard and if the standard acheived a pup or stud is always offered back in latter years. Money and Digging Dogs should not be in the same sentance IMO If you want to make money from pups breed KC pet dogs. agree 100% with this post ... when ive had to sell a dog (not pups) ive always offered it to my mates for free first before putting it up for sale Telling porkies are we chiddy Quote Link to post
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 Dave I am a newbie but if thats whats plummers do is that not ok? What is the defintion of a 'working dog'? I once fostered a long legged staff/pit who was bred to fight (and cost thousands) and that was to be his 'work' - he was however stolen then passed to a rescue where I fostered it for a while - never bothered anything including my kids yet its work was to fight to the death? If I fancy a plummer for vermin and walking and thats its 'work' whats the problem? You can pretty much train any terrier to go to ground given the chap thats training is the bizz - much like anything else. Surely pedigree is what you pay for? Genes, ground and immediate training? Am I wrong? Is this not what you guys appreciate free and for anyone else not in the know pays for? Yes your wrong. In fact you couldnt be any more wrong if you tried. I wont waste my time explaining it to you, hopefully someone with a bit more patience will! FTB Quote Link to post
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