Moderators

[whippeter69 88]

Hi guys, right heres the situation. Spoke to BASC firearms Department last night and they told me not to apply for a FAC until i can buy a rifle ( that would be in a years time when im 17) or get a parent to apply for one so they can gift it to me.

 

So, my step mum who has a SGC and land has agreed to apply for a FAC for a .22LR + Moderator so i can be GIVEN it.She has land as horses and would like to use it for a little while to shoot the crows and rabbits that feed off the horse feed then she will hand it over.She used to use a .22LR where she lived as her cousin had one and often went a did a bit of shooting so she has good knowledge of rifle safety. I have got a mentor who will most likely to be taking me out every other week end lamping, so heres the thing.

 

I know i can be given a Rifle as long as i have a slot for that specific caliber on my license but, what's the score on a Moderator, Can i be give in ? I read that i can be given a firearm at the age of 14 and i read also that a moderator for a firearm is a firearm itself. So can i be give that as well ? as if i can i would most defiantly have to inform the police.

 

Cheers guys

Whippeter

[danebrewer10 6]

I'm pretty sure that a mod is not a firearm (you can have a spare barrel lying around and you only need a FAC for it if it is chambered for a cartridge, before that, it it is just a rifled tube you don't need a FAC- not what you need to know, but interesting all the same), but when applying for a FAC you'll need to state that you intend to purchase a mod with the firearm, and state the serial no. if there is one, I think also that if you purchased a mod separately you'd have to have it crossed off your FAC as well, I may be wrong on this last point.

[Rake aboot 4,936]

If a Moderator is purchased to be fitted to a firearm then it is classed as a firearm and a slot must be available on your licence for it.

This includes 22lr moderators,,,even the parker hale air rifle one (if it is for a 22lr)

[Urban Fox Control London 8]

In the UK, sales of suppressors fall into four categories of use.

 

For replica and air weapons, the purchase of a suppressor requires no license and in most cases, no identification requirement.

 

 

For shotguns, these will probably require the presentation of the buyer's shotgun certificate but will not be recorded.

 

 

For a small- or full-bore rifle, the firearm certificate (FAC) will need to show permission for the purchase of a suppressor and also the gun for which it is intended.

 

All firearms certificates have the firearm and caliber approved by the Police and annotated to the document before a suppressor may be purchased.

 

Police forces usually approve applications for a suppressor for hunting and target shooters, as the risks of litigation for personal injury, especially high-tone deafnesss resulting from shooting-induced hearing loss, are significant; and noise pollution in general is a problem for shooting sports.

 

 

I had to have a 'Sound Moderator' added onto my FAC before I could purchase one.

 

 

What's the best moderator for a .22lr?

 

 

I use a SAK, but I was told by someone today that a Parker Hale is the best?

Edited April 30, 2010 by Urban Fox Control London

[Night Hunter 109]

If a Moderator is purchased to be fitted to a firearm then it is classed as a firearm and a slot must be available on your licence for it.

This includes 22lr moderators,,,even the parker hale air rifle one (if it is for a 22lr)

 

100% correct

[danebrewer10 6]

oh I stand corrected

 

 

 

 

What's the best moderator for a .22lr?

 

 

I use a SAK, but I was told by someone today that a Parker Hale is the best?

 

probably "the best" because it has been around longest and has the reputation I'd have thought.... I use a SAK as well....

[whippeter69 88]

KK cheers lads for that.

 

So if my step mum were to buy a rifle and mod would i have to inform the police that i have been give the mod aswell ?

[CharlieT 32]

KK cheers lads for that.

 

So if my step mum were to buy a rifle and mod would i have to inform the police that i have been give the mod aswell ?

 

 

yes

[JonathanL 4]

Hi guys, right heres the situation. Spoke to BASC firearms Department last night and they told me not to apply for a FAC until i can buy a rifle ( that would be in a years time when im 17) or get a parent to apply for one so they can gift it to me.

 

So, my step mum who has a SGC and land has agreed to apply for a FAC for a .22LR + Moderator so i can be GIVEN it.She has land as horses and would like to use it for a little while to shoot the crows and rabbits that feed off the horse feed then she will hand it over.She used to use a .22LR where she lived as her cousin had one and often went a did a bit of shooting so she has good knowledge of rifle safety. I have got a mentor who will most likely to be taking me out every other week end lamping, so heres the thing.

 

I know i can be given a Rifle as long as i have a slot for that specific caliber on my license but, what's the score on a Moderator, Can i be give in ? I read that i can be given a firearm at the age of 14 and i read also that a moderator for a firearm is a firearm itself. So can i be give that as well ? as if i can i would most defiantly have to inform the police.

 

Cheers guys

Whippeter

 

Short answer; Yes, in law a mod is a firearm in its own right. Yes, you can be given it in the same way in which you can be given any other firearm.

 

J.

[JonathanL 4]

If a Moderator is purchased to be fitted to a firearm then it is classed as a firearm and a slot must be available on your licence for it.

This includes 22lr moderators,,,even the parker hale air rifle one (if it is for a 22lr)

 

Legally, a mod is a firearm in it's own right. Being very pedantic about it I think you could extend that argument to saying that even a mod for a non- FAC air rifle needs to be on FAC, even though the air rifle doesn't.

 

J.

 

Edit: checked the Act and a mod for an airgun which is exempt from Sec.1 is not a firearm in its own right.

Edited May 1, 2010 by JonathanL

[Deker 3,478]

Hi guys, right heres the situation. Spoke to BASC firearms Department last night and they told me not to apply for a FAC until i can buy a rifle ( that would be in a years time when im 17) or get a parent to apply for one so they can gift it to me.

 

So, my step mum who has a SGC and land has agreed to apply for a FAC for a .22LR + Moderator so i can be GIVEN it.She has land as horses and would like to use it for a little while to shoot the crows and rabbits that feed off the horse feed then she will hand it over.She used to use a .22LR where she lived as her cousin had one and often went a did a bit of shooting so she has good knowledge of rifle safety. I have got a mentor who will most likely to be taking me out every other week end lamping, so heres the thing.

 

I know i can be given a Rifle as long as i have a slot for that specific caliber on my license but, what's the score on a Moderator, Can i be give in ? I read that i can be given a firearm at the age of 14 and i read also that a moderator for a firearm is a firearm itself. So can i be give that as well ? as if i can i would most defiantly have to inform the police.

 

Cheers guys

Whippeter

 

Short answer; Yes, in law a mod is a firearm in its own right. Yes, you can be given it in the same way in which you can be given any other firearm.

 

J.

 

Even as a short answer that isn't quite correct...

 

...plenty of air rifle mods available which are not firearms and do not have to be on FAC. Your Granny or baby can walk into any toy shop and legally buy one of these mods, it isn't a Firearm at this point!

 

However, if you have a firearm on FAC and wish to attach one of these NON FAC moderators to it, then you need a slot on your FAC and as soon as you attach the moderator and inform your region you have done so it becomes a firearm!

 

Ireland is a little different I understand!

[whippeter69 88]

KK cheers lads :victory: