kevinyo01 4 Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 not moaning just wondering what the big obsession with bull crosses is ? everybody raves on about how good they are but iv never had chance to go out with one so i cant really say what i think of them ,, in looks i think i prefer the old types with out bull in but thats just my opinion . what advantes would a lets say 23" bull cross have over a 23" beddy cross ? thanks alot ,, replys would be appreciated Stamina and True Grit. Bull crosses are not newM there's been Bull crosses Been recorded since the early 1700's Quote Link to post
chrisbullx 2,541 Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 bullxs and wheatonxs are the way forward colliexs deerhoundxs beddyxs etc ul get 1 good un out of 100 that will it all bullxs and wheatonxs are better 4 all round work cause they only have 1 gear and thats flat out atb kris Quote Link to post
Guest stewie Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 bullxs and wheatonxs are the way forward colliexs deerhoundxs beddyxs etc ul get 1 good un out of 100 that will it all bullxs and wheatonxs are better 4 all round work cause they only have 1 gear and thats flat out atb kris if you knew your stuff you would no what you just said is bullshit!!! Quote Link to post
Ayr_10 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 u are [bANNED TEXT] keviny001 the bull x got off u is gd day &nite time dog abtayr10 Quote Link to post
death boy 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 not moaning just wondering what the big obsession with bull crosses is ? everybody raves on about how good they are but iv never had chance to go out with one so i cant really say what i think of them ,, in looks i think i prefer the old types with out bull in but thats just my opinion . what advantes would a lets say 23" bull cross have over a 23" beddy cross ? thanks alot ,, replys would be appreciated go out with one and make your own opinion!! its obvious they will be stronger than a bedo cross but both crosses have advantages over the other so stupid really to compare them. i have both types and both hunt as good as each other but personally i prefer the bulls attitude to life and thats what sways me nothing to do with work tho!! Is that bull x called queeny? Quote Link to post
GET THEM OUT (.)(.) 39 Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Everytime this thread is brought up it makes me laugh! At the end of the day you either love the bullx, hate them or no f..k all about them and think you hate them! To many people throwing wild statements on what they can or cant do who know f..k all about them! They are a popular breed of lurcher and getting more popular for only one reason! There good... "you either love them or hate them" just like marmite, or fat birds, or me, there not much difference between the 3 tbh, Quote Link to post
littletimmy 71 Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 i also don't think much to bull xs especially one that throw to the bull side i have seen a few descent but apart from fox what else are they good for not much in my opinion as a single handed hunting dog there are better breed's but i only bother with fox when i cvome across them thre's more to hunting then killing fox just ask your self this if you and your family was starving you had no electric for a lamp so could only walk during the day what breed x would you want to put food on the table bull x would be my last option just my opinion When is anyone ever going to be that desperate in this day an age to depend on the dog to provide food? If i was that hungry i'd go and fill a trolley up in tesco and leave ... Fact of the matter is a good bull has more drive and tenicaty than a good dog of any other breed. Fact. That is why they are bred to into lurchers. You chase rabbits, some people chase foxes, SO THEY GET A DOG FOR THE JOB. Would you give your collie x 10 foxes a week, week i no there not but if they was a bull x would not be the dog of choice like i've said to a digging man / lamper there maybe are great but if you want to catch day and night all rabbit,hare,deer and fox when you come across them not flying about throwing them out of vehicles thats what i've done when ive been lamping and doin a few foxa night and proberbly the only way you could kill ten a week to walk with one bull x and kill ten a week would be a tall order especially if there not urban fox not every night a week is right for lamping fox pluss what about abceses and swelling face and mouth ive killed fox with bull x's and seen what a good night foxing takes out of a dog and i dont run collie crosses but have and they are good dog's your talking about myth's about them doin bunny's and not been hard bitten the biggest myth of all is that you need a bull x to kill fox i've seen a pure greyhound kill a fox before before the bull x's even got there and they want far behind as i look at it to kill all there are better than bull x's But thats the whole point .. people do not buy bull xs to be pot fillers!! It seems to be impossible to believe but its true!! Im not getting into the arguement of how to catch them but 10 in a week is easily possible , and i never mentioned it all to be 100% single handed, as for numbers, most people double up. The foxes still bite. As for swelling etc. That is the point im making, a good bull x runs just as hard with its head like a balloon. your talking about myth's about them doin bunny's and not been hard bitten -- don't quite know what you mean here? As for collies been good dogs, im not saying they arn't but they cannot compete with bull x at a bull xs job for a sustained period of time. Excption to the rule of course. Heres a picture of the damage foxes done to my collie whippet type bitch (both sides of her mouth where the same, this was after a hard week; 2 nights of being doubled up on 3 foxes and a night of 2 foxes. So a total of 8 foxes in 7 days ( not including other quarry caught inbetween). It resulted in 2 weeks lay off and then she would have a night out and they would open up again. And you could see it hurting when she bit down on anything, thus she would be laid up again for another week or 2 rather than push her and cause the enitable - spuewing. I was running a saluki/bull grey at the same time and he picked up some much worse injuries, but never did i get any signals from him that enough was enough. He always had plenty more in him even when phsycally he really didnt. I've seen this repeated through several other what i would call 'good' bull xs but its something ive never seen in any other breed. If you believe any other breed can compete with a proper bull x at the job bull xs are intended then id like to see these dogs preform consistantly and then i'll readily admit the bull xs is a useless wanker Oh and just for the record, the only dog in my kennel is a collie x ATM. Quote Link to post
jenksi87 3 Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 whats wrong with a collie bull grey? brains heart and speed Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,432 Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 i also don't think much to bull xs especially one that throw to the bull side i have seen a few descent but apart from fox what else are they good for not much in my opinion as a single handed hunting dog there are better breed's but i only bother with fox when i cvome across them thre's more to hunting then killing fox just ask your self this if you and your family was starving you had no electric for a lamp so could only walk during the day what breed x would you want to put food on the table bull x would be my last option just my opinion When is anyone ever going to be that desperate in this day an age to depend on the dog to provide food? If i was that hungry i'd go and fill a trolley up in tesco and leave ... Fact of the matter is a good bull has more drive and tenicaty than a good dog of any other breed. Fact. That is why they are bred to into lurchers. You chase rabbits, some people chase foxes, SO THEY GET A DOG FOR THE JOB. Would you give your collie x 10 foxes a week, week i no there not but if they was a bull x would not be the dog of choice like i've said to a digging man / lamper there maybe are great but if you want to catch day and night all rabbit,hare,deer and fox when you come across them not flying about throwing them out of vehicles thats what i've done when ive been lamping and doin a few foxa night and proberbly the only way you could kill ten a week to walk with one bull x and kill ten a week would be a tall order especially if there not urban fox not every night a week is right for lamping fox pluss what about abceses and swelling face and mouth ive killed fox with bull x's and seen what a good night foxing takes out of a dog and i dont run collie crosses but have and they are good dog's your talking about myth's about them doin bunny's and not been hard bitten the biggest myth of all is that you need a bull x to kill fox i've seen a pure greyhound kill a fox before before the bull x's even got there and they want far behind as i look at it to kill all there are better than bull x's But thats the whole point .. people do not buy bull xs to be pot fillers!! It seems to be impossible to believe but its true!! Im not getting into the arguement of how to catch them but 10 in a week is easily possible , and i never mentioned it all to be 100% single handed, as for numbers, most people double up. The foxes still bite. As for swelling etc. That is the point im making, a good bull x runs just as hard with its head like a balloon. your talking about myth's about them doin bunny's and not been hard bitten -- don't quite know what you mean here? As for collies been good dogs, im not saying they arn't but they cannot compete with bull x at a bull xs job for a sustained period of time. Excption to the rule of course. Heres a picture of the damage foxes done to my collie whippet type bitch (both sides of her mouth where the same, this was after a hard week; 2 nights of being doubled up on 3 foxes and a night of 2 foxes. So a total of 8 foxes in 7 days ( not including other quarry caught inbetween). It resulted in 2 weeks lay off and then she would have a night out and they would open up again. And you could see it hurting when she bit down on anything, thus she would be laid up again for another week or 2 rather than push her and cause the enitable - spuewing. I was running a saluki/bull grey at the same time and he picked up some much worse injuries, but never did i get any signals from him that enough was enough. He always had plenty more in him even when phsycally he really didnt. I've seen this repeated through several other what i would call 'good' bull xs but its something ive never seen in any other breed. If you believe any other breed can compete with a proper bull x at the job bull xs are intended then id like to see these dogs preform consistantly and then i'll readily admit the bull xs is a useless wanker Oh and just for the record, the only dog in my kennel is a collie x ATM. mate i agree with what you have just said it is what i have been saying to a man who likes taking things that bite back there great if you want to fill the pot there very average but as for most people double up why is that if a bull bull x has speed stamina y double up i for one no as soon as you double up your stacking the odds in your favour a good dog should take quarry on it's own the bull x my mate has is about 13 now 3/4 grey 1/4 pitbull and that is the best bull x i've seen took all the fox single while i was out with him and that about six seasons and he had what you say a heart as big as anything you could wish for i seen him kill one fox and have all his top teeth on one side coming through his lip and still be game for another believe me i are'nt saying there shit he could also take deer and rabbit and the odd hare were as dog's that could'nt live with him on the fox were always better on rabbit hare and deer what i'm saying i'd rather have a dog that can always fill the pot and take fox when there there rather than one that is there to smash fox thats just what i prefere and i have never seen a staffy cross or ebt cross that would have lived with that 1/4 pitbull it was just a completely different animal to the staffy crosses i've seen again just my opinion Quote Link to post
cathunter 8 Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 my father always told me only to keep a dog that will fill your freezer and my two bull x's are excellent at killing sheep.to be honest my freezer is never empty Arr thats bloody funny, i like that one, and i guess that that they would protect there family aswell from the bullx mastiffs i had, wink Quote Link to post
cathunter 8 Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 ive had bull blooded dogs all my life and i love the bull breeds, and to be honest if it where looks i wanted then i would have one today but i dont rate the ones ive seen work,and they have been with people who know dogs. remember bull xs arent new they have always been about, in fact the greyhounds of old often had bull blood added. i like lurchers to have plenty of brains that type suits me even though i dont like collies, my best dogs have always been collie xs. the bull xs ive seen dont seem to have that eagerness to please that makes working a day dog a pleasure. Again its horses for courses and there are some beautiful looking bull x dogs on here, who knows if the right breeding came along i would give it a go Stroller, i forgot abut the greys havin bull blood till you said about it. true that thats how they got the rose (little)ears Quote Link to post
shagydog 3 Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 not moaning just wondering what the big obsession with bull crosses is ? everybody raves on about how good they are but iv never had chance to go out with one so i cant really say what i think of them ,, in looks i think i prefer the old types with out bull in but thats just my opinion . what advantes would a lets say 23" bull cross have over a 23" beddy cross ? thanks alot ,, replys would be appreciated weight Quote Link to post
lurcher lass 9 Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 as already said different dogs for different jobs on another note i have bull x and beddy x, i find that the bull x are much calmer, and easy going in their nature, my beddy x is a bet hyper in comparison each to their own, just enjoy your dogs,,,, Quote Link to post
chrisbullx 2,541 Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 bullxs and wheatonxs are the way forward colliexs deerhoundxs beddyxs etc ul get 1 good un out of 100 that will it all bullxs and wheatonxs are better 4 all round work cause they only have 1 gear and thats flat out atb kris if you knew your stuff you would no what you just said is bullshit!!! how can u say its bullshit mate colliesxs etc its very rare ul c 1 that likes the sharp end most bullxs and wheatonxs love the sharp end if they bred right and worked right so im just saying they are more all rounders cause will do it all they not just pot fillers Quote Link to post
Guest stewie Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 bullxs and wheatonxs are the way forward colliexs deerhoundxs beddyxs etc ul get 1 good un out of 100 that will it all bullxs and wheatonxs are better 4 all round work cause they only have 1 gear and thats flat out atb kris if you knew your stuff you would no what you just said is bullshit!!! how can u say its bullshit mate colliesxs etc its very rare ul c 1 that likes the sharp end most bullxs and wheatonxs love the sharp end if they bred right and worked right so im just saying they are more all rounders cause will do it all they not just pot fillers lol so its all about taking the sharp end to be an all rounder??? what about a half cross that cant catch daytimes hares is he still an all rounder??? Quote Link to post
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