Identify a trap

[Rake aboot 4,936]

Ey Up

 

Not that well informed on traps so need a help identifying a trap that was found on one of my permissions.

 

Steel mesh, square cross section 3 feet long , divided into three sections. Centre section has wired shut hatch, two ouside sections have sprung hatches 90degree out from each other( ie one on the top and the other on the side)

 

Corvid trap ?? anyone know what it is and how it works?.

Cheers

[Night Hunter 109]

Ey Up

 

Not that well informed on traps so need a help identifying a trap that was found on one of my permissions.

 

Steel mesh, square cross section 3 feet long , divided into three sections. Centre section has wired shut hatch, two ouside sections have sprung hatches 90degree out from each other( ie one on the top and the other on the side)

 

Corvid trap ?? anyone know what it is and how it works?.

Cheers

Any pics mate ,sounds like a magpie trap

 

heres a pic I found of what you describe

 

 

 

the two perches are split so that when the magpie lands on them they collapse and the door closes on its spring the centre is for housing the call bird

Edited April 30, 2010 by Night Hunter

[Rake aboot 4,936]

Yup thats it mate.

The perches are missing tho. Any idea where I can buy spares for these?

 

A run down on there use , techniques etc would be good.

 

Thanks for the reply bud

 

Edited to ask,, why would the sprung hatches be on different sides as described above ??

Edited April 30, 2010 by Rake aboot

[parrots2 54]

Yup thats it mate.

The perches are missing tho. Any idea where I can buy spares for these?

 

A run down on there use , techniques etc would be good.

 

Thanks for the reply bud

 

Edited to ask,, why would the sprung hatches be on different sides as described above ??

you only need a peice of dowl or simular cut in two

[Rake aboot 4,936]

Easy enough ,, but still would like some info on how they work,,tips etc.

Still not sure about the offset hatches.

 

Thanks for the replies blokes.

[Night Hunter 109]

Easy enough ,, but still would like some info on how they work,,tips etc.

Still not sure about the offset hatches.

 

Thanks for the replies blokes.

 

Hi mate ,the two sprung hatches are so that you can effectively catch two magpies,the centre section is for the call bird which must have food and water and the trap must be checked regularly.I think the traps have to be registered and have a unique number now but not sure perhaps someone in the know can elaborate on that for you.The dowels must be long enough to hold the door open and should be cut so that they give way under the weight of the magpie as it lands on the dowel hence springing the trap. Hope this helps mate

Edited April 30, 2010 by Night Hunter

[borntoshoot 1]

Hope this helps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I427h16bJiU

[john b 38]

The Larsen trap is mainly a trap for magpies, although it also has been known to catch crows, jays and other corvids. It is one of the few traps where it is legal to use a live bird to catch others - not as 'bait' in the usual sense but by using the natural instinct of these birds to guard their territory. Dominant birds, or new birds entering an area, will approach the call bird and in the course of the encounter will be caught.

 

The trap itself is divided into two halves; one forming the permanent cage for the 'call bird' and the other half divided into two catch chambers. Each catch chamber has a pivoted door which is sprung and folds down inside the trap when it is set. A pair of dowels are then placed end on end between the door and the inner wall, held in position by the tension of the sprung door. When a bird lands on this 'split perch' while trying to get to the callbird, the perch will collapse—dropping the bird into the catch chamber and releasing the lid to spring shut.

 

 

 

 

The law which allows the use of live decoys in this way carries with it significant and serious responsibilities - by law you must not cause unnecessary suffering to the callbird. In practical terms this means:

 

§ Daily checks to monitor the health of thecall bird, to providing food and water and to remove any caught birds.

 

§ A trap big enough for the call bird to spreadits wings.

 

§ Toprovide shelter. The trap has a covered section but in very bad weather more may be required, particularly on the sides.

 

§ Any injured call bird must be dispatched quicklyand humanely. It is good practice to replace the call bird regularly.

 

§ note:In Scotland Larsen traps must now be registered and be labelled with a unique identification number.

 

 

(extract taken from Trap Making, Step by Step)

[stubby 175]

a trap that was found on one of my permissions.

 

 

 

so have you checked who it belongs too?

someone else with permission, or the landowner

otherwise it sounds like theft of a trap on your part

[Rake aboot 4,936]

Well considering the trap is still where I found it ,then theft is not an issue ,cheers Stubby

It was given to the land owner but they had no idea how to use it so it has lay about for a while.

The dowels are missing so suspect thats why it was not used.

It is mine if I want it and know that I know where to look for info on how to use it I can look into it further.

Will see about getting it registered first off , but it is in good condition so it might as well get used.

 

What call birds are suitable?

 

This sounds like an interesting project for me actually and will delve deeper into its proper use.

 

Cheers for the replies.

[Rake aboot 4,936]

Still confused as to why the hatches would be offsett, ie one on the top and one on the side.

This would mean the hatch on the side would be sprung with a vertical dowel ??

 

 

AHH!!! unless they open in different directions !! will check when back home

[john b 38]

And take a photo of it - then we can be a bit more specific

[Rake aboot 4,936]

Wont happen for another 2 weeks bud.. at work sorry