BAD PRACTICE

[john robbo 30]

[FightTheBan 1,147]

Cowboys.

 

Although, I think we would be lying if we said we have never had an accident whilst shooting - if you are out often enough its bound to happen at some stage...its how you follow things up afterwards that count.

 

Not 100% sure whether thats been shot or not, as the jaw seems fairly in tact Could be some sort of infection.

Someone with more experience will shed some light on it.

 

FTB

[john robbo 30]

I would say it has been shot and the bullet hasn't expanded well.

This weather it has or not been shot just highlights the dangers of this shot which is why Best practice guides and DMQ will not back these shots.

Its time gamedealers excepted a little damage and allowed hunters to follow our guidelines.

[FightTheBan 1,147]

Its all a matter of personal opinion, but I much prefer head and neck shots - well placed they wont be beaten.

 

With chest shots there is also large room for error - no method is idiot proof.

 

I do agree, however, dmq's could help reduce idiots shooting poorly.

 

FTB

[john robbo 30]

I will take neck shots and occasional head shots.

But only in selective circumstances and not as preferred method.

What I am saying here is for everybody to give it plenty of thought before they pull the trigger,

we can agree on that i'm sure.

regards john.

[FightTheBan 1,147]

I will take neck shots and occasional head shots.

But only in selective circumstances and not as preferred method.

What I am saying here is for everybody to give it plenty of thought before they pull the trigger,

we can agree on that i'm sure.

regards john.

 

 

Absolutely ! Couldnt agree more

FTB

[Night Hunter 109]

Guys you both say that it is bad practice to take head and neck shots then you both say that you are guilty of bad practice, I do understand that you both have your dmq's and that at least one of you are a registered accredited witness who acompanies stalkers for thier level two certification,this just adds weight to my argument against compulsory testing ,It seems that the dmq's are just a "do as I say not as I do" culture designed to extort cash from people,I have spoken to various MP's and MSP's etc and have made them aware of my concerns as have many other stalkers and most recently I have been asured that the proposals in the wildlife reform document remain just that...proposals.No motion has been made as yet to make the dmq's compulsory ,it seems the government have woken up after the lies were told to them regarding the fatalities that had nothing to do with stalking.It was also suggested that there should be a full investigation into the people who are on the register to ensure that they are declareing and paying the relevent tax and national insurance on thier earnings and that this should include the checking of game dealers records and personal finances.

 

I did however look at the you tube clip and it seems that the general concensus in the comments is that the deer in the clip is suffering from blue tongue.

 

It seems that the only people who are singing the praise of DMQ's are the people who stand to gain financialy from the training side.

Edited April 30, 2010 by Night Hunter

[Night Hunter 109]

Its all a matter of personal opinion, but I much prefer head and neck shots - well placed they wont be beaten.

 

With chest shots there is also large room for error - no method is idiot proof.

 

I do agree, however, dmq's could help reduce idiots shooting poorly.

 

FTB

 

Is anyone who does not have DMQ's an IDIOT then ?????

[Night Hunter 109]

I will take neck shots and occasional head shots.

But only in selective circumstances and not as preferred method.

What I am saying here is for everybody to give it plenty of thought before they pull the trigger,

we can agree on that i'm sure.

regards john.

 

 

Absolutely ! Couldnt agree more

FTB

 

Best Practice ......I rest my case.

[FightTheBan 1,147]

Its all a matter of personal opinion, but I much prefer head and neck shots - well placed they wont be beaten.

 

With chest shots there is also large room for error - no method is idiot proof.

 

I do agree, however, dmq's could help reduce idiots shooting poorly.

 

FTB

 

Is anyone who does not have DMQ's an IDIOT then ?????

 

 

Did you even read my post you messer - or are you just looking to stir up shit?

I said it COULD HELP REDUCE...

FTB

[FightTheBan 1,147]

"Guys you both say that it is bad practice to take head and neck shots then you both say that you are guilty of bad practice, I do understand that you both have your dmq's"

 

No I didnt - the only shots I will take are head and neck unless the shot doesnt present itself.

And I dont have a DMQ, nor will I. I learned off a man who has done more deer than most - I dont need a bit of paper to prove it to anyone.

Cheers

FTB

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

................and long may it be so mate .

[john robbo 30]

May I make my stand a little clearer.

When i say a compulsory test I do not mean it has to be DSC1 as it would not cover fox shooting only a test and exam to show gun competence and field saftey.

DSC is to deer specific to be a general test.

A cheaper test could be made and if passed an open ticket and no calibre restriction should apply as you have proved you are fit.

[Night Hunter 109]

Its all a matter of personal opinion, but I much prefer head and neck shots - well placed they wont be beaten.

 

With chest shots there is also large room for error - no method is idiot proof.

 

I do agree, however, dmq's could help reduce idiots shooting poorly.

 

FTB

 

Is anyone who does not have DMQ's an IDIOT then ?????

 

 

Did you even read my post you messer - or are you just looking to stir up shit?

I said it COULD HELP REDUCE...

FTB

 

 

"Guys you both say that it is bad practice to take head and neck shots then you both say that you are guilty of bad practice, I do understand that you both have your dmq's"

 

No I didnt - the only shots I will take are head and neck unless the shot doesnt present itself.

And I dont have a DMQ, nor will I. I learned off a man who has done more deer than most - I dont need a bit of paper to prove it to anyone.

Cheers

FTB

 

 

Sorry for the misunderstanding mate I certainly aint no messer ,Its just that I've spent a fair bit of my time moping up after idiots and both of them had thier DMQ's......All that DMQ's achieves is to breed guys that think they know it all because they have a piece of paper that tells them so,who is going to clean up after them if we can't.

[Night Hunter 109]

May I make my stand a little clearer.

When i say a compulsory test I do not mean it has to be DSC1 as it would not cover fox shooting only a test and exam to show gun competence and field saftey.

DSC is to deer specific to be a general test.

A cheaper test could be made and if passed an open ticket and no calibre restriction should apply as you have proved you are fit.

 

Why should people who have had a firearms certificate for years without incident have to sit any kind of competency test mate,surely time should be the proof that they are safe and competant,Newcomers should be mentored or go on a voluntary course if mentoring is not availble to them.

Edited May 1, 2010 by Night Hunter