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Hi terrier.

 

Your Beetle is one of the Carrion Beetles - Oiceoptoma thoracica & your Bee looks like one of the Cuckoo Bumble Bees - Bombus sylvestris.

thought the bee might be a whitetail. bombus lucorum will look further i thought cuckoos were psithyrus. :thumbs:

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Hi terrier.

 

Your Beetle is one of the Carrion Beetles - Oiceoptoma thoracica & your Bee looks like one of the Cuckoo Bumble Bees - Bombus sylvestris.

thought the bee might be a whitetail. bombus lucorum will look further i thought cuckoos were psithyrus. :thumbs:

psithyrus vestalis cuckoo bee that uses bufftails as there host hive normaly killing the rightful queen, i think so many look familiar and all reference books differ slightly ,got this from collins garden wildlife of brit&uer . :thumbs:

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They changed them from Psithyrus to Bombus years ago.

 

B. vestalis should have sronger patches of yellow on the side of the abdomen. I think I can make out a black tip to the tail & the abdomen looks curled which points me to B. sylvestris.

 

Identifying Bumble Bees is not easy for most species (& from photos) unless you can look at the genitalia.

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They changed them from Psithyrus to Bombus years ago.

 

B. vestalis should have sronger patches of yellow on the side of the abdomen. I think I can make out a black tip to the tail & the abdomen looks curled which points me to B. sylvestris.

 

Identifying Bumble Bees is not easy for most species (& from photos) unless you can look at the genitalia.

obviously more up to date books and better read than me thanks for that.

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They changed them from Psithyrus to Bombus years ago.

 

B. vestalis should have sronger patches of yellow on the side of the abdomen. I think I can make out a black tip to the tail & the abdomen looks curled which points me to B. sylvestris.

 

Identifying Bumble Bees is not easy for most species (& from photos) unless you can look at the genitalia.

consider yourself educated by the master terrier :tongue2:

great pics tho!!!!! which dime never mentioned.

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