GUNS SIEZED

[terrierone 32]

JUST HOME WENT OUT ON PERMISSION AT 5 AM THIS MORNIN , 4 AIRGUNS,FEW WOODYS IN BAG , THEN POLICE CHOPPER ABOVE BEEN CALLED TO US, SO GUNS STRAIGHT IN CASES AS WE WERE HEADING HOME 200 YDS BACK TO CAR MET BY ARM RESPONCE PLUS 4 OTHER CARS AND RIOT VAN , WTF,, KEPT US SIDE OF ROAD 2 HOURS GUNS LAID OUT ON FLOOR, ONE LEFT TO GO CHECK PERMISSION OUT , ALL OK , STILL TOOK 4 GUNS AWAY NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENING NOW BUT THEY RECKON NO GUNS EVEN IN CASE CAN BE CARRIED IN PUBLIC PLACE AT ANY TIME. ACCORDING TO THEM LAW HAS CHANGED AGAIN ,, GOD KNOWS, POSIBILITY 2 GUNS BEEN ALTERED MMMMM SOME EXPERIENCE THIS WAS , I TELL YOU ...

[hullhunter 219]

JUST HOME WENT OUT ON PERMISSION AT 5 AM THIS MORNIN , 4 AIRGUNS,FEW WOODYS IN BAG , THEN POLICE CHOPPER ABOVE BEEN CALLED TO US, SO GUNS STRAIGHT IN CASES AS WE WERE HEADING HOME 200 YDS BACK TO CAR MET BY ARM RESPONCE PLUS 4 OTHER CARS AND RIOT VAN , WTF,, KEPT US SIDE OF ROAD 2 HOURS GUNS LAID OUT ON FLOOR, ONE LEFT TO GO CHECK PERMISSION OUT , ALL OK , STILL TOOK 4 GUNS AWAY NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENING NOW BUT THEY RECKON NO GUNS EVEN IN CASE CAN BE CARRIED IN PUBLIC PLACE AT ANY TIME. ACCORDING TO THEM LAW HAS CHANGED AGAIN ,, GOD KNOWS, POSIBILITY 2 GUNS BEEN ALTERED MMMMM SOME EXPERIENCE THIS WAS , I TELL YOU ...

 

you will not be getting them back i had mine taken by the plod and they said that it was shooting 4 out of 12 pellets over the limit. and i konw for a fact it was not over but what can you do?

[terrierone 32]

WHAT YOU THINK? ALL OF THEM , THINK THERE MIGHT BE CHARGES ALSO , IM BRICKING IT HERE

[venomviper 129]

hi ya buddy

publice place ? sorry i might have read it wrong ? but you said you was on your permission and i dont know if it has changed as i walk through the town (outskirts) to fill my guns up until i got a pump not good mate matey and how you mean POSIBILITY 2 GUNS BEEN ALTERED have you crono'd them ? before you went out ? sorry to hear buddy but if you knew they had been altered and they are over power they do need an f.a.c but i dont know what to say mate its not good if they came to your permission and took your guns off you buddy as i always contact the police first when i am on a permission as it only needs one anti to call them or a concerned public to and then stuff like this happens

 

shay

[terrierone 32]

hi ya buddy

publice place ? sorry i might have read it wrong ? but you said you was on your permission and i dont know if it has changed as i walk through the town (outskirts) to fill my guns up until i got a pump not good mate matey and how you mean POSIBILITY 2 GUNS BEEN ALTERED have you crono'd them ? before you went out ? sorry to hear buddy but if you knew they had been altered and they are over power they do need an f.a.c but i dont know what to say mate its not good if they came to your permission and took your guns off you buddy as i always contact the police first when i am on a permission as it only needs one anti to call them or a concerned public to and then stuff like this happens

 

shay

WAS WALKING OFF PERMISSION WHEN THEY STRUCK, 200 YDS BACK TO CAR , THEY SAID THATS PUBLIC RIGHT O WAY GUNS NOW AWAY TO BE TESTED

[maty j 6]

I havn't heard anything of law changes recently and pritty sure If It had It would of been all over here and the other forums. Were they unloaded (empty magazines too) and In a case when you were transporting them? Suppose It depends on what you call tampering but as long as there under 12 FPE there shouldn't be a problem.

 

It's what they do, Try to shit you up any way they can. I've heard of people having the rifles confistcated before and then plod gets intouch saying it's over 12 FPE. They then said you could hand the guns over to them or get charged for having a FA without a FAC. Would they really give you the option If you had broken the law? I don't think so As long as you know your rifles legal keep a cool head and don't give them anything to go on. May be worth contacting a decent breif too If there threatening you with chages. Good luck

[stevieskin 4]

You are allowed to carry an unloaded air rifle in a case in a public place if you can show good reason.

Travelling to and from a shoot you have permission on is good reason and therefore legal.

Edited April 25, 2010 by stevieskin

[terrierone 32]

You are allowed to carry an unloaded air rifle in a case in a public place if you can show good reason.

Travelling to and from a shoot you have permission on is good reason and therefore legal.

 

according to them law changed , due to kids with air rifles , no air rifles can be carried at all this was armed responce ,

normal plod didnt know this but armed responce did

[stevieskin 4]

Why would they need to change the law because of kids with air rifles? The existing "without good reason" law would apply in that case anyway.

I think they were making it up as they went mate, they got called out and decided they were going to get a "result" somehow.

Edited April 25, 2010 by stevieskin

[venomviper 129]

hi ya buddy

this is a part of it

Offence Penalties

Statute Law

The Penalties for breaking current UK firearms laws with Airguns are as follows:-

Carrying a loaded Air-weapon in a public place 6 months imprisonment and / or £5,000 fine.

Trespassing with an air weapon 3 months imprisonment and / or £2,500 fine.

Trespassing on private land with an air weapon 3 months imprisonment and / or £2,500 fine.

Possessing or using an air weapon if sentenced to 3 months or more in custody 3 months imprisonment and / or £2,500 fine.

In addition if original sentence up to 3 years 5 year ban on use of firearms.

Or if for 3 years or more Life ban on use of firearms.

Firing an air weapon within 15m / 50ft of a public highway £1,000 fine.

AIRGUNS IN PUBLIC PLACES It is illegal for anyone to have a loaded airgun in a public place, unless for some proper reason - such as authorised pest control. The airgun does not have to be cocked - anything in the breech, barrel or magazine defines the gun in law as loaded'. A public place is anywhere that the public are allowed entry, even if they may have to pay to do so.

 

AIRGUNS AND HIGHWAYS It is against the law to fire an airgun within 15 metres of the centre of a roadway - if by doing so you cause any risk or nuisance. Using an airgun on private property, close to a road. in a way which upset or put at risk people on the road, would be an offence.

there is nothing saying that the gun laws have change to were if your gun is empty and not loaded and you can prove you are doing pest control on the land you have permission on so if the guns aint tampered with i cant see you having a problem seek advice from a solicitor

shay

[Phantom 631]

You are allowed to carry an unloaded air rifle in a case in a public place if you can show good reason.

Travelling to and from a shoot you have permission on is good reason and therefore legal.

 

according to them law changed , due to kids with air rifles , no air rifles can be carried at all this was armed responce ,

normal plod didnt know this but armed responce did

 

Total bullshite

 

As Stevie said, you can carry an air rifle, in its case if you have a lawful excuse or reason. IE going or comming back from permission or a gun club, or range or gunsmiths shop.

How else would a RFD be allowed to sell a fecking air rifle?

 

When the law changes, it will be publicised in all the magazines, all the forums and on the news and papers!

 

Go get to a solicitor NOW

 

Why would the ARU know about a law change when local plod dont?

The local plod are usually the 1st to deal with a report, I walked past my local police station yesterday as I do everyday with my guns and as per usual, I get to the entrance and a marked unit comes out, and either ignores me completely or give me a wave (the ones I know).

Lets face it, A man built like a brick shit house, in full DPM carrying either an Olive Green or a full DPM Gunslip does not go un-noticed.

 

Last year I had a couple of experiances with Oscar Nine Nine (Hull area Helicopter) on my permissions, a friendly wave with a bunny in one hand, and a gun (pointing down) in the other hand and they left me alone.

Other time I was about to take a shot when the blue lights reflected off the eyebell of the scope! I walked over to see why they were on, the wpc said she had seen my lamp and was more worried about horse thefts than me shooting.

 

If your legal, your fine and a half decent lawyer, will get your guns back for you

 

Phantom

[terrierone 32]

You are allowed to carry an unloaded air rifle in a case in a public place if you can show good reason.

Travelling to and from a shoot you have permission on is good reason and therefore legal.

 

according to them law changed , due to kids with air rifles , no air rifles can be carried at all this was armed responce ,

normal plod didnt know this but armed responce did

 

Total bullshite

 

As Stevie said, you can carry an air rifle, in its case if you have a lawful excuse or reason. IE going or comming back from permission or a gun club, or range or gunsmiths shop.

How else would a RFD be allowed to sell a fecking air rifle?

 

When the law changes, it will be publicised in all the magazines, all the forums and on the news and papers!

 

Go get to a solicitor NOW

 

Why would the ARU know about a law change when local plod dont?

The local plod are usually the 1st to deal with a report, I walked past my local police station yesterday as I do everyday with my guns and as per usual, I get to the entrance and a marked unit comes out, and either ignores me completely or give me a wave (the ones I know).

Lets face it, A man built like a brick shit house, in full DPM carrying either an Olive Green or a full DPM Gunslip does not go un-noticed.

 

Last year I had a couple of experiances with Oscar Nine Nine (Hull area Helicopter) on my permissions, a friendly wave with a bunny in one hand, and a gun (pointing down) in the other hand and they left me alone.

Other time I was about to take a shot when the blue lights reflected off the eyebell of the scope! I walked over to see why they were on, the wpc said she had seen my lamp and was more worried about horse thefts than me shooting.

 

If your legal, your fine and a half decent lawyer, will get your guns back for you

 

Phantom

phantom looks to me like they wanted these guns checked mate but they were addament about la

w change they went to farmer asked him he agreed permission granted, we explained about if any law change we would of known they werent interested , typical ,

Edited April 25, 2010 by terrierone

[Phantom 631]

phantom looks to me like they wanted these guns checked mate but they were addament about la

w change they went to farmer asked him he agreed permission granted, we explained about if any law change we would of known they werent interested , typical ,

 

The last change to airgun law in the UK came about in the VCR (Violent Crimes Reduction Law) 2007

 

Here is a brief outline for you:

 

http://www.airgunshooting.co.uk/expertadvice-details.aspx?id=79

 

Before a law can be changed, it has to go through the usual channels as any other new law. This can take years.

 

If the Police wish to, they can sieze an airgun and send it off to their testing centre (at great expence to them). To have it tested.

 

Now according to Baz on AGBBS, even the temperature must be controlled during the testing, and its not just a case of sligning a few through the chrono.

 

I remember a guy on AGBBS who gave a very detailed description of how they (the Home Office not the Police) test and how they come to the conclusion that an airgun is over/under the legal limit.

 

Do you have a solicitor yet?

 

Also did you get all high and mighty or gobby with the Police at the time?

 

I had a conversation with a PC in the back of an ambulance a few weeks back when he insisted my 3 inch blade, Realtree lock-knife was illegal.

By the time I had finished my very calm conversation with him, he told me I could pick it up from 'Property' when I had recovered from my ordeal

 

Phantom

[bedrock 16]

Are you insured with an organisation like the countryside alliance or BASC if so give them a ring and they will put you straight and give you the contact details of a solicitor who specialises in country sports etc. Good luck

[whippeter69 88]

Get in touch with BASC mate if you're a member, there fantastic with guns and the police,