malamutex greys

[Guest fence_hopper]

found this on you tube loads more on the page. still wouldnt pay £300 tho!!!

boar hunting

 

 

 

better ones i found stewie

 

 

 

Boar baiting? WTF? I thought this was a hunting forum?

 

are you for real that aint baiting thats hunting they have to find an animal first

 

I'd say that's unnecessary suffering, but what do I know? Back to the thread.

 

i'd say we have no rights to make statements like that as we dont live there and see the dammage they cause. open your mind. that atitude is what got hunting banned. same as the mal x unless we see them work we dont have a right to say there no good.

[hedz31 1,308]

I think the mistake you made flint was to have long threads disscusing these crosses on here,with other folk from your circle backing up what you had to say, i myself read some of the threads with intrest and respect that you were putting the time and effort into the previous pups, i was a little miffed that you did not give the previous litter more time to prove itself before breeding another litter and was suprised that you had also put them on a site like epupz and that you were selling a full litter without keeping any back yourself,i belive these are some of the factors why people are having a pop at you and it does seem a high amount of money for pups that are a relativley new cross,but thats entirely upto you what you sell them at,all the best with selling the pups and i do hope they go to good responsible working homes

regards Hedz

they have not backed me up ,what have i said, show me, whats it got do with any one else where i sell pups or what i charge if there not buying,the people on hear say they dont breed off their dogs until they are good and tested (why is there so much rubbish about then) i do know a little bit about dogs. pampering a dog for 5 year then breeding off them dont prove nothing

well it seemed to me on previous threads you had a few fans or friends,and i dont know any dog men that would sell pups on epupz most would get laughed at,there is so much rubbish about because fools breed for money and say they are tried and tested when they are not, breeding for money is one of the main factors why there is so much crap failed dogs about,and how do you pamper a dog for five years then breed from them that makes no sense to me what so ever ???? if a dog has been worked for five years surely its tried and tested who in there right mind keeps a dog for five years then says right i will breed from it now,you may know about dogs but from the way you are going about selling them and how you conduct yourself does have me pondering to maybe you are not the man i thought you were from previous threads Edited April 27, 2010 by hedz31

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is this cheap or what, bit more than a hundred quid though

http://www.epupz.co.uk/clas/viewdetails.asp?view=332218

the first litter we bred was so me and my boy could have a pup, we sold the rest 100 pound each to freinds,it was going to be the last time she was going to be put to the greyhound( he sold the first litter of pups pure malamutes for 800 hundred each, except to freinds whitch were a bit cheaper) a freind who as had bull xs all is life asked my boy if he would do the same mateing again,my boy said no as he was putting a malamute to her next time.in the end he said he would for 300 hundred pound each, a few days later the man fetched the mony over. 3 was sold before she went to the greyhound. they are nice natured dogs good with kids and other dogs and they would make very good pets if they were exercised anough, as far as we know they are the only dogs of this x in the country ( by doing this x my boy as lost a lot of mony) THER IS A LOT OF NARROW MINDED PEOPLE ON THIS SITE

out of interest how old is the bitch and in total how many times has she been bred. i could see it as sensible if you bred her for pup for your self but as far as ive read you already own the x so obviously its got to be about money. whether thats 200 or 800 each its still cash. its my understanding that mals arnt favoured in uk and dont sell well maybe thats why you did this x again. mate you could be genuine but doesnt look to good

read the above again ,you sound like an old woman

brave statement knowing your thousands of miles away keep with the peddling with your uk kc mal which is gonna be shit as uk kc mal are bred for show type not working as ask any top mal bloke/lady who use them for what they should be used for uk kennel club have f****d the breed just like germen shepherds in uk. and top working mals have 20-30 generation pedigrees full of akc working winners. not just a 5 generation ped. look at how much changes have happened to the breed in last 5-6 years since they first got shown at crufts. talk to cascade malamute kennels who own the international champ working malamute dogs for weight and sled, not show crap you might just learn about your mal. i was just stating what i read you made it personal

Stayed out of this until now....that's a foolish statement from you You're thousands of miles away so how can you comment on this You can't,you don't know the man you don't know what he does with his dogs....and you're spouting on about KC malamutes not this particular x.....give the man a break ffs...his dogs his choice simple as ....John

yeah thousands of miles away and just stating about his so called top notch mal. he was making personal remarks so i retaliated. but lets not be stupid obviously you dont really use that dog on a rabbit and even tho born and bred in devon moved to winipeg in canada for years before emergrating here. mals are the one thing i know i used them for 20 odd years in sled and weight tournaments competing with true to type mals even worked them in a hunting enviroment with the locals. i still believe to this day they do have the odd staghound x mal which is very simular to the cross explained. this isnt the first time its been tried canadians have played with the mal strain adding to varys breeds for enhancement to no avail obvious the dog be good for antler types but thats it. and from what ive read were talking about a man who hunts them from 6 weeks old and puts more work into his dogs in one season then everybody else does in 3 and so on. hes built a big crap enough picture of himself without having to assume a thing

your a first class idiot,cant you under stand what you read, you dont know what you are talking about so keep your nose out of my businiss

more second class i would say and in what way dont i know what im talking about not being big headed but i probly no more on the mal breed then most. i never once said i was against the cross as mals in my experience have the biggest drive to hunt ive ever seen in a dog . and think at big quarry would be mustard. if i live in the uk and you bred a akc working mal to a grey would of snatched your hands off for 300 but not the uk kc stuff to many changes to the breed but being new to the site ive read loads of old topics and it seemed like you were doing it for all your friends and all pups were practally booked. then all of a sudden after all the bigging up. the whole litter is for sale. you might be genuine but what did you expect on a public forum, your hand being shuck?

Edited April 28, 2010 by sputtheload

[sputtheload 5]

is this cheap or what, bit more than a hundred quid though

http://www.epupz.co.uk/clas/viewdetails.asp?view=332218

the first litter we bred was so me and my boy could have a pup, we sold the rest 100 pound each to freinds,it was going to be the last time she was going to be put to the greyhound( he sold the first litter of pups pure malamutes for 800 hundred each, except to freinds whitch were a bit cheaper) a freind who as had bull xs all is life asked my boy if he would do the same mateing again,my boy said no as he was putting a malamute to her next time.in the end he said he would for 300 hundred pound each, a few days later the man fetched the mony over. 3 was sold before she went to the greyhound. they are nice natured dogs good with kids and other dogs and they would make very good pets if they were exercised anough, as far as we know they are the only dogs of this x in the country ( by doing this x my boy as lost a lot of mony) THER IS A LOT OF NARROW MINDED PEOPLE ON THIS SITE

out of interest how old is the bitch and in total how many times has she been bred. i could see it as sensible if you bred her for pup for your self but as far as ive read you already own the x so obviously its got to be about money. whether thats 200 or 800 each its still cash. its my understanding that mals arnt favoured in uk and dont sell well maybe thats why you did this x again. mate you could be genuine but doesnt look to good

read the above again ,you sound like an old woman

brave statement knowing your thousands of miles away keep with the peddling with your uk kc mal which is gonna be shit as uk kc mal are bred for show type not working as ask any top mal bloke/lady who use them for what they should be used for uk kennel club have f****d the breed just like germen shepherds in uk. and top working mals have 20-30 generation pedigrees full of akc working winners. not just a 5 generation ped. look at how much changes have happened to the breed in last 5-6 years since they first got shown at crufts. talk to cascade malamute kennels who own the international champ working malamute dogs for weight and sled, not show crap you might just learn about your mal. i was just stating what i read you made it personal

Stayed out of this until now....that's a foolish statement from you You're thousands of miles away so how can you comment on this You can't,you don't know the man you don't know what he does with his dogs....and you're spouting on about KC malamutes not this particular x.....give the man a break ffs...his dogs his choice simple as ....John

yeah thousands of miles away and just stating about his so called top notch mal. he was making personal remarks so i retaliated. but lets not be stupid obviously you dont really use that dog on a rabbit and even tho born and bred in devon moved to winipeg in canada for years before emergrating here. mals are the one thing i know i used them for 20 odd years in sled and weight tournaments competing with true to type mals even worked them in a hunting enviroment with the locals. i still believe to this day they do have the odd staghound x mal which is very simular to the cross explained. this isnt the first time its been tried canadians have played with the mal strain adding to varys breeds for enhancement to no avail obvious the dog be good for antler types but thats it. and from what ive read were talking about a man who hunts them from 6 weeks old and puts more work into his dogs in one season then everybody else does in 3 and so on. hes built a big crap enough picture of himself without having to assume a thing

your a first class idiot,cant you under stand what you read, you dont know what you are talking about so keep your nose out of my businiss

more second class i would say and in what way dont i know what im talking about not being big headed but i probly no more on the mal breed then most. i never once said i was against the cross as mals in my experience have the biggest drive to hunt ive ever seen in a dog . and think at big quarry would be mustard. if i live in the uk and you bred a akc working mal to a grey would of snatched your hands off for 300 but not the uk kc stuff to many changes to the breed but being new to the site ive read loads of old topics and it seemed like you were doing it for all your friends and all pups were practally booked. then all of a sudden after all the bigging up. the whole litter is for sale. you might be genuine but what did you expect on a public forum, your hand being shuck?

the reason i had ago at you is because you came in half way through a conversation and didnt realy know what was going on. the malamute bitch is a good worker she goes out most days, and she as proved in the past she as got plenty of bottle, i would be a total idiot to do the same again if the first litter was no good

mate like i said dont think your lying about the quality of the pups i know mals well as you've gathered and when used in a working enviroment there second to none. it would be a scary thought with the greyhounds speed as they would exterminate anything at a chance. they seem to of worked for you but if you should get the chance try an imported mal as there even better. the mals i saw in the states and canadan are by far better.if your impressed with the uk type honestly try the import which is even more prey driven. but not sure how they would handle your climate being honest but maybe grey would sort that out.

[theferreter 311]

flint your a muppet 300 for a sledge dog or should i say mutt catch your self on fella

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flint your a muppet 300 for a sledge dog or should i say mutt catch your self on fella

read the thread properly, the are now £200 not £300

[sputtheload 5]

flint your a muppet 300 for a sledge dog or should i say mutt catch your self on fella

just thought id post something i helped write 15 years ago about mals and there heritage for all those people who think there just sled dogs, yes uk type has change slightly to help control the bred but think this might help so here it is

The Alaskan Malamute, one of the oldest Arctic sled dogs, was named after the native Inuit tribe called Mahlemuts, who settled along the shores of Kotzebue Sound in the upper western part of Alaska, within the Arctic Circle. Bone and ivory carvings dated to 20,000 years ago show ancient Malamutes almost identical to today's breed. Malamutes babysat the Mahlemut children while parents were out on hunts which is one reason they make very good family pets. Their use of dogs was a partnership for survival. In summer, the Mahlemut people fished and hunted inland. In winter, they hunted sea mammals on the coast. Dogs assisted in hauling their possessions between spots, tracking polar bears and other quarry, hunting seals, moving meat from the hunt back to their base and with the hunt itself, as well as lookouts for bears and guarding caribou herds.. Often, they neutered all male dogs except the lead dogs. This ensured that females were bred only by the best dogs. Traits were maintained by the most basic criteria - survival. The dogs that prevailed were most suited for the environment, and for the work. When the first outside explorers came to the region in the 1700s, they were impressed not only by the hardy dog but also by their owners� obvious attachment to them. Early writings indicate that the dogs kept by the Mahlemut people were better cared for than was usual for Arctic sled dogs, and this seemingly accounts for the breed�s affectionate disposition.

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flint your a muppet 300 for a sledge dog or should i say mutt catch your self on fella

just thought id post something i helped write 15 years ago about mals and there heritage for all those people who think there just sled dogs, yes uk type has change slightly to help control the bred but think this might help so here it is

The Alaskan Malamute, one of the oldest Arctic sled dogs, was named after the native Inuit tribe called Mahlemuts, who settled along the shores of Kotzebue Sound in the upper western part of Alaska, within the Arctic Circle. Bone and ivory carvings dated to 20,000 years ago show ancient Malamutes almost identical to today's breed. Malamutes babysat the Mahlemut children while parents were out on hunts which is one reason they make very good family pets. Their use of dogs was a partnership for survival. In summer, the Mahlemut people fished and hunted inland. In winter, they hunted sea mammals on the coast. Dogs assisted in hauling their possessions between spots, tracking polar bears and other quarry, hunting seals, moving meat from the hunt back to their base and with the hunt itself, as well as lookouts for bears and guarding caribou herds.. Often, they neutered all male dogs except the lead dogs. This ensured that females were bred only by the best dogs. Traits were maintained by the most basic criteria - survival. The dogs that prevailed were most suited for the environment, and for the work. When the first outside explorers came to the region in the 1700s, they were impressed not only by the hardy dog but also by their owners� obvious attachment to them. Early writings indicate that the dogs kept by the Mahlemut people were better cared for than was usual for Arctic sled dogs, and this seemingly accounts for the breed�s affectionate disposition.

 

 

question as you seem very nolagable about the breed. as it sez they only bred from the best so there obviosly tested to find the best. non of todays kc uk bred dogs are put to the test there bred more for the value of the pups and the look of the dog. so how many of todays dogs would of made the grade for the malamuts people?

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flint your a muppet 300 for a sledge dog or should i say mutt catch your self on fella

just thought id post something i helped write 15 years ago about mals and there heritage for all those people who think there just sled dogs, yes uk type has change slightly to help control the bred but think this might help so here it is

The Alaskan Malamute, one of the oldest Arctic sled dogs, was named after the native Inuit tribe called Mahlemuts, who settled along the shores of Kotzebue Sound in the upper western part of Alaska, within the Arctic Circle. Bone and ivory carvings dated to 20,000 years ago show ancient Malamutes almost identical to today's breed. Malamutes babysat the Mahlemut children while parents were out on hunts which is one reason they make very good family pets. Their use of dogs was a partnership for survival. In summer, the Mahlemut people fished and hunted inland. In winter, they hunted sea mammals on the coast. Dogs assisted in hauling their possessions between spots, tracking polar bears and other quarry, hunting seals, moving meat from the hunt back to their base and with the hunt itself, as well as lookouts for bears and guarding caribou herds.. Often, they neutered all male dogs except the lead dogs. This ensured that females were bred only by the best dogs. Traits were maintained by the most basic criteria - survival. The dogs that prevailed were most suited for the environment, and for the work. When the first outside explorers came to the region in the 1700s, they were impressed not only by the hardy dog but also by their owners� obvious attachment to them. Early writings indicate that the dogs kept by the Mahlemut people were better cared for than was usual for Arctic sled dogs, and this seemingly accounts for the breed�s affectionate disposition.

 

 

question as you seem very nolagable about the breed. as it sez they only bred from the best so there obviosly tested to find the best. non of todays kc uk bred dogs are put to the test there bred more for the value of the pups and the look of the dog. so how many of todays dogs would of made the grade for the malamuts people?

thats a good point fence hopper, but the thing is you can ask the same about all the other k.c breeds and pretty much get the same answer. personally i dont think any of the k.c breeds today would measure up to the early strains. there will be a difference in the malamutes also but i belive they are still close to the origanal malamutes from 30 000 years ago. from my experience of the malamute they are still good workers they have plenty of hunting instict, but compared to the origanal strain i wouldnt like to say how different they are.

[sputtheload 5]

flint your a muppet 300 for a sledge dog or should i say mutt catch your self on fella

just thought id post something i helped write 15 years ago about mals and there heritage for all those people who think there just sled dogs, yes uk type has change slightly to help control the bred but think this might help so here it is

The Alaskan Malamute, one of the oldest Arctic sled dogs, was named after the native Inuit tribe called Mahlemuts, who settled along the shores of Kotzebue Sound in the upper western part of Alaska, within the Arctic Circle. Bone and ivory carvings dated to 20,000 years ago show ancient Malamutes almost identical to today's breed. Malamutes babysat the Mahlemut children while parents were out on hunts which is one reason they make very good family pets. Their use of dogs was a partnership for survival. In summer, the Mahlemut people fished and hunted inland. In winter, they hunted sea mammals on the coast. Dogs assisted in hauling their possessions between spots, tracking polar bears and other quarry, hunting seals, moving meat from the hunt back to their base and with the hunt itself, as well as lookouts for bears and guarding caribou herds.. Often, they neutered all male dogs except the lead dogs. This ensured that females were bred only by the best dogs. Traits were maintained by the most basic criteria - survival. The dogs that prevailed were most suited for the environment, and for the work. When the first outside explorers came to the region in the 1700s, they were impressed not only by the hardy dog but also by their owners� obvious attachment to them. Early writings indicate that the dogs kept by the Mahlemut people were better cared for than was usual for Arctic sled dogs, and this seemingly accounts for the breed�s affectionate disposition.

 

 

question as you seem very nolagable about the breed. as it sez they only bred from the best so there obviosly tested to find the best. non of todays kc uk bred dogs are put to the test there bred more for the value of the pups and the look of the dog. so how many of todays dogs would of made the grade for the malamuts people?

uk bred mals have changed slightly but only there coat mainly and there not as wired up or hyped up as the akc type but even the uk type are still the closest to there original type then nearly every other breed. there are still some good bred dogs in uk but most would have imports in the mix.the amwa<alaskan malamute workers association> have a list of good uk breeders that breed true to type. the akc mal is meant to be the most original type breed known not changing at all. the uk say that a long coat is not desirable and is frowned apon this is mainly due to helping them domesticate easyer to the uk same as they've croped the stamina out the breed again to help domesticate them but even the uk type will have more drive, determination and sheer stamina then any germen shep/malinious or bull or even saluki. so in all there a breed not for the faint hearted there only negative for a breed is there top speed but the grey would sort that and they have to be worked i bet even flint08s xs have to be worked everyday or they wont be happy.

Edited April 28, 2010 by sputtheload

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there better types of lurchers for allround work sput ,and well there only young the last litter, so when there tested then we can se what type of stamp it takes years to breed good lurchers at times not just a a mal cross with a greyhound at times,me personaly if you lived in the colder climates and had the work for them and space they would be handy,ile never calla man down unless its pre peddling , but if he gave them aseason or two then they do the biz were ever then you can say good dogs iin knoedgble hands ,like what hanckock done ,even tho it went far fwrong as time goes by ,if the mans happy with them ,then if he wants more but just to breed for cash well is nothing about the standard of the dogs at allround lurcher work etc

[Guest fence_hopper]

flint your a muppet 300 for a sledge dog or should i say mutt catch your self on fella

just thought id post something i helped write 15 years ago about mals and there heritage for all those people who think there just sled dogs, yes uk type has change slightly to help control the bred but think this might help so here it is

The Alaskan Malamute, one of the oldest Arctic sled dogs, was named after the native Inuit tribe called Mahlemuts, who settled along the shores of Kotzebue Sound in the upper western part of Alaska, within the Arctic Circle. Bone and ivory carvings dated to 20,000 years ago show ancient Malamutes almost identical to today's breed. Malamutes babysat the Mahlemut children while parents were out on hunts which is one reason they make very good family pets. Their use of dogs was a partnership for survival. In summer, the Mahlemut people fished and hunted inland. In winter, they hunted sea mammals on the coast. Dogs assisted in hauling their possessions between spots, tracking polar bears and other quarry, hunting seals, moving meat from the hunt back to their base and with the hunt itself, as well as lookouts for bears and guarding caribou herds.. Often, they neutered all male dogs except the lead dogs. This ensured that females were bred only by the best dogs. Traits were maintained by the most basic criteria - survival. The dogs that prevailed were most suited for the environment, and for the work. When the first outside explorers came to the region in the 1700s, they were impressed not only by the hardy dog but also by their owners� obvious attachment to them. Early writings indicate that the dogs kept by the Mahlemut people were better cared for than was usual for Arctic sled dogs, and this seemingly accounts for the breed�s affectionate disposition.

 

 

question as you seem very nolagable about the breed. as it sez they only bred from the best so there obviosly tested to find the best. non of todays kc uk bred dogs are put to the test there bred more for the value of the pups and the look of the dog. so how many of todays dogs would of made the grade for the malamuts people?

uk bred mals have changed slightly but only there coat mainly and there not as wired up or hyped up as the akc type but even the uk type are still the closest to there original type then nearly every other breed. there are still some good bred dogs in uk but most would have imports in the mix.the amwa<alaskan malamute workers association> have a list of good uk breeders that breed true to type. the akc mal is meant to be the most original type breed known not changing at all. the uk say that a long coat is not desirable and is frowned apon this is mainly due to helping them domesticate easyer to the uk same as they've croped the stamina out the breed again to help domesticate them but even the uk type will have more drive, determination and sheer stamina then any germen shep/malinious or bull or even saluki. so in all there a breed not for the faint hearted there only negative for a breed is there top speed but the grey would sort that and they have to be worked i bet even flint08s xs have to be worked everyday or they wont be happy.

 

 

one thing sticks out to me there mate, me and more than half the population of lurcher owners would disagree with you, more game than any bull (pit). i dont believe that for one second you only have to watch the youtube clips posted the pits are straight in no messing and the mals are barking and baying there lucky that wall is there because they'ed be chacing it forever, when the bulls will just grab and hold fearless. have you first hand experience on pis as you do mals i dont think so.

 

like whin sez we got good lurchers already. so why mess about with silly x's (not just mals all sorts of crap poodle etc)when theres tried and tested dogs out there. i'm not saying the mal cross is pointless some people like to be different good luck to them.

Edited April 28, 2010 by fence_hopper

[Guest fence_hopper]

thanks flint i dont think i could watch it that long. it bored me to death about 60 seconds watching them yap the bore deaf.

[Guest fence_hopper]

thanks flint i dont think i could watch it that long. it bored me to death about 60 seconds watching them yap the bore deaf.

you stay in your own little world,if it makes you feel better

 

 

ok flint will do

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see theres always going to be the odd one or two theres loads of clips of bull pulling off and if you read my post i spent alot of time in the states where pits are commonly the main dog. pure pits too none of the diluted stuff. from what ive observed yes a pit has got hell lot of bottle and fearless but true mals are even more they had and have to be. now they cant be pure mals as baying is against the breeding a mal hates to bark and once commited they'd die trying. ive seen mals taking on bears before. must of been about 13 years ago me and a friend where hiking his mals came with for protection and carry our water. they call it packing. well me being new to the wild camping scene i left my bag on the ground and a bear came by my hamuck if it wasnt for the mals getting stuck in i wouldnt be here. blaze one of his main dogs 31tts 175lb died protecting me and forever in his gratitude. theres always going to be the odd ones of the breed. this is one of many stories of the mal ive witnessed. and too the day i have one hell of a scare on my leg. i'll post pics for proof