pine martin

[neil cooney 10,416]

Try keeping poultry where there's Pine Martins near by. Rumour has it Coillte or Duchas (the forestry or wildlife crowd) is releasing them to control the grey squirrell population. They have certainly spread quickly. I picked up a dead one on the edge of Navan town and a friend seen one in Mullingar. A friend of a friend thought he had trapped 3 mink in a week trying to get at his fowl. They were pine martins.

A few years ago it was said that Co. Clare was the last stronghold of them, now they're everywhere.

[poacher3161 1,766]

Its a mammal i would love to see in the wild one day.I stayed at a place called lochin dorb a couple of years ago on a falconry holiday in scotland and stood out side with some other lads lookin at the night sky under some large pines and commented i wonder if theirs any pine martins in the area [bANNED TEXT] one lad said they dont fly at night you silly t--t

[patdahat 41]

well it's the first time iv ever seen 1 myself, i know they were released in the national park some years back but that is over 30 miles away, sence this fella was caught we've heard that clare and galway is thick with them and was told that a game keeper in galway had 3 of them in his phesant pen with serious carnage done. Good if they hunt the grey squirrel but will they kill the red aswell??

[THE DEMON 93]

we used to leave food out on the garden wall and watch them feed all the time lovely looking animal

[patdahat 41]

hope this works first time trying to add a vid link.

[darareilly 0]

hope this works first time trying to add a vid link.

the country is full of them, loads killed on the roads down here.

[MOO 730]

We used to catch plenty in larsson traps ...they were always released ...great animals to watch

[waidmann 105]

did it have a white or gold "bib" bud?

(stone or pine martin)

 

they are beutifull creatures and so agile its unreal(they make the mustelids look like sloths).

 

waidmann

 

Don't you mean:

 

"They make the other mustelids look like sloths?"

 

Not being a smart arse, I'm currently half way through reading a book about the evolution of the carnivores!

 

 

i may have read a different book

 

i refer to "mustelids" as the family mustela (nivalis,erminea,vison,putorius) and would not include the other species martes martes and martes foina(known in germany as the royal/real martins,as opposed to the stink martins above).

lutra and meles being the only others i can think of would also not be included in the mustelid family.

as i would see it the mustelid refers to the species and sas such only when mustela is in the first part of the biological/zoological name can it be a mustelid?

 

i may be wrong and would love to find out so thanks for picking it up if i'm wrong

waidmann

[Malt 379]

did it have a white or gold "bib" bud?

(stone or pine martin)

 

they are beutifull creatures and so agile its unreal(they make the mustelids look like sloths).

 

waidmann

 

Don't you mean:

 

"They make the other mustelids look like sloths?"

 

Not being a smart arse, I'm currently half way through reading a book about the evolution of the carnivores!

 

 

i may have read a different book

 

i refer to "mustelids" as the family mustela (nivalis,erminea,vison,putorius) and would not include the other species martes martes and martes foina(known in germany as the royal/real martins,as opposed to the stink martins above).

lutra and meles being the only others i can think of would also not be included in the mustelid family.

as i would see it the mustelid refers to the species and sas such only when mustela is in the first part of the biological/zoological name can it be a mustelid?

 

i may be wrong and would love to find out so thanks for picking it up if i'm wrong

waidmann

 

I think we are both kind of correct my friend, just need to tweak the terminology a bit!

 

Going on my book....

 

They are all in the Mustelidae family, but and as you say the weasels/polecats/stoats/etc are in a different subfamily (Mustella) to the Martins/Sable, & fisher. Marten(Martes).

 

So the term Mustelid could be used as a (very) broad term for any member of the family from the wolverine to the least weasel.

 

 

:clapper: :clapper: :clapper:

Great book isn't it

 

 

Fantastic!

Edited April 22, 2010 by maltenby

[FightTheBan 1,147]

Same genus - different species.

Thank god someone is here to keep us all right -

 

LOL

FTB

[Malt 379]

Same genus - different species.

Thank god someone is here to keep us all right -

 

LOL

FTB

 

 

Every day is a school day!

[jf1970 328]

well it's the first time iv ever seen 1 myself, i know they were released in the national park some years back but that is over 30 miles away, sence this fella was caught we've heard that clare and galway is thick with them and was told that a game keeper in galway had 3 of them in his phesant pen with serious carnage done. Good if they hunt the grey squirrel but will they kill the red aswell??

 

 

seen a few of them up here in co.roscommon

[gold lark 0]

caugth one last year lovey looking and seemed very timid. 1 killed half our phesants last year tho. numbers seem to be on the up.

[gold lark 0]

here he is

[kevin from bristol 95]

i'd be happy with a catch like that beautifull i've never seen one with my own eyes let alone caught one had a few stoats but released them were you after mink ?