fmwtc 12 Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 (edited) Well folks after reading the thread about the great yorkshire show refusing to let anyone enter a dog younger than three and a half with a docked tail even though working terriers have an exemption in place regarding the matter i as area rep for the south lakes fell and moorland working terrier club will be refusing to allow anyone to enter a terrier into our show without a docked tail unless it is in the border class the child handler or the family pet class this show is a working terrier show and that is what it will stay as i would like to encourage anyone else who is organising a working terrier show to join in with the no dock no show policy lets all stand together i also would be greatful of your comments too thanks for reading this always remember your terriers , steve hudson south lakes fmwtc Edited April 17, 2010 by fmwtc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mcass123 6 Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 Well folks after reading the thread about the great yorkshire show refusing to let anyone enter a dog younger than three and a half with a docked tail even though working terriers have an exemption in place regarding the matter i as area rep for the south lakes fell and moorland working terrier club will be refusing to allow anyone to enter a terrier into our show without a docked tail unless it is in the border class the child handler or the family pet class this show is a working terrier show and that is what it will stay as i would like to encourage anyone else who is organising a working terrier show to join in with the no dock no show policy lets all stand together i also would be greatful of your comments too thanks for reading this always remember your terriers , steve hudson south lakes fmwtc am personally not a terrierman but i have a lot of pals who are and i agree with you 100%, stand together atb mick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fmwtc 12 Posted April 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 cheers mick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Linton Lad 90 Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 Agree with every word mate, well done. LL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GarryN 5 Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 We need to stay together even more, the Police monitor our website so be extra carefull what you post in text and picture format. Good luck with the docked dogs only show. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fmwtc 12 Posted April 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 We need to stay together even more, the Police monitor our website so be extra carefull what you post in text and picture format. Good luck with the docked dogs only show. i fully understand where you are coming from and as far as i am led to believe it is illegal to charge anyone to show a working terrier thus turning the dog from a worker to a show dog there will be a raffle ticket system in place with a minimum donation of a pound per class entered this is a donation towards the club for working terriers everyone who makes this donation will then become an honary member for the day and will be eligible to enter there terrier in the fell and moorland best entered class with the chance to win one excellent prize there is no CHARGE PER CLASS JUST A DONATION TOWARDS A GOOD CAUSE. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
farlap 19 Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 you have got it wrong. its illegal to have docked dogs in the show if the public havepaid an entrance fee to the show ground itself.....it is not illegal to charge for the actual class entry fees. You simply have to make it "donation to enter" rather than charging an entry fee on the gate. I repeat...its the actual physical show entrance thats the problem (ie on the entry to the field or carpark) AND NOT actually entering the show classes thats the legal issue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wurzil Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Well folks after reading the thread about the great yorkshire show refusing to let anyone enter a dog younger than three and a half with a docked tail even though working terriers have an exemption in place regarding the matter i as area rep for the south lakes fell and moorland working terrier club will be refusing to allow anyone to enter a terrier into our show without a docked tail unless it is in the border class the child handler or the family pet class this show is a working terrier show and that is what it will stay as i would like to encourage anyone else who is organising a working terrier show to join in with the no dock no show policy lets all stand together i also would be greatful of your comments too thanks for reading this always remember your terriers , steve hudson south lakes fmwtc well done steve i admire your attitude and for having the backbone to do the exact opposite of what the authorities are trying to force us to do, i hope all show organisers follow your example. yis wurzil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fmwtc 12 Posted April 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 thanks wurz there is a lot of folk that have read this and said same but how many show organisers will do the same id be interested to see there isnt many standing up and being counted on here maybe more interested in earning money than the actual working terrier Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alli 923 Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 wel said working shows for working dogs like they used 2b Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waidmann 105 Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 excellant this is the kind of show that should be supported by ALL terriermen in the immediate area whether they are interested in showing their dogs or not. this is the direction to go working terriers at working shows SHOULD be docked. i wish the fmwtc the very best of luck with this and good weather and attendance on the day. a good move may be to get some postive press there to publicize the event and get it put in the intended perspective (local papers etc, try getting a known magazine to report on the show and the journalist to do a short positive artical for the locals????? about time the non supportive public got to hear OUR side of it in a positive light). waidmann Quote Link to post Share on other sites
"Earth!" 503 Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Well folks after reading the thread about the great yorkshire show refusing to let anyone enter a dog younger than three and a half with a docked tail even though working terriers have an exemption in place regarding the matter i as area rep for the south lakes fell and moorland working terrier club will be refusing to allow anyone to enter a terrier into our show without a docked tail unless it is in the border class the child handler or the family pet class this show is a working terrier show and that is what it will stay as i would like to encourage anyone else who is organising a working terrier show to join in with the no dock no show policy lets all stand together i also would be greatful of your comments too thanks for reading this always remember your terriers , steve hudson south lakes fmwtc good man steve.going to try do the same for my area show but ive already advertised it as a terrier, lurcher and 'Family dog' show . may have to put something on my scuedules that only terriers with 'Docked' tails may enter the terrier classes,the rest will have to enter the family dog section. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 (edited) you have got it wrong. its illegal to have docked dogs in the show if the public havepaid an entrance fee to the show ground itself.....it is not illegal to charge for the actual class entry fees. You simply have to make it "donation to enter" rather than charging an entry fee on the gate. I repeat...its the actual physical show entrance thats the problem (ie on the entry to the field or carpark) AND NOT actually entering the show classes thats the legal issue. no we have not got it wrong we are a working terrier club holding a working terrier show the act states working dogs can be shown to show the working ability are working terrier judges judge on the the terriers suitabilty for work NOT CONFERMATION WORKING TERRIER RULES NOT KC RULES AS THE ACT STATES IN ENGLAND A UNDOCKED TERRIER IN THE EYES OF THE ANIMAL WELFARE ACT IS NOT SUITIBLY FOR WORK as the owner has chosen if in england not to have it docked if your north of the border sorry we did not make your law , its time to unite behind the act and use it as it is writen all so as are area rep states the £1 donation give all a day membership and the right to enter the FMWTC BEST ENTERD TERRIER , ANY ONE WHO WANTS PERMANENT MEMBERSHIP CAN JOIN ON THE DAY , ALL WAYS REMEMBER YOUR TERRIERS Edited April 21, 2010 by gonetoearth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leeview 791 Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 you have got it wrong. its illegal to have docked dogs in the show if the public havepaid an entrance fee to the show ground itself.....it is not illegal to charge for the actual class entry fees. You simply have to make it "donation to enter" rather than charging an entry fee on the gate. I repeat...its the actual physical show entrance thats the problem (ie on the entry to the field or carpark) AND NOT actually entering the show classes thats the legal issue. Spot on farlap Its the charging an admission to get in thats the problem DONT charge ask for a donation to get in and you can have docked dogs being shown Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richc12 84 Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 HERE!!! HERE!!! well done mate totally agree and about time!!!!! how these show folk can turn up and enter show ponies along side true workers and WIN at a working terrier shows beats me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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