any one have a collie cross

[adamb20 22]

a good thing about my colie coss is if there is a rabbit to one side of the field she will push them away from the fence where other dogs would chase through the fence, i have noticed this alot and i prefer the way a collie works, cutting game off etc. i do like to watch bull crosses etc work it is mpressive the amount of determination they have but i know im not resonsible for the vet bills.

[mighty celt 996]

had acolie lurcher years ago who started rating her rabits next to cover no god ,but the collie type i have b now get stuck in if a rabbit hits afence hedge they try and pull him out

 

yeah mine will hit cover if the rabbits there i mean the likes of bull crosses where if they chase a rabbit through the same fence 9 times they will try just as hard the tenth time when theres obviously no hope. i am a great believer that collie crosses can estimate thier own capabilities and judge weather a run is feasible or not, where other more simple minded crosses only think 'kill'.

whos the boss mate u r your dog its as simple as this if u slip your dog on a rabbit and your dog dont move its a jacker simple as whats the point in keeping a dog that only goes for easy rabbits.most collie crosses 2 much brain not enough heart.but there is some good ones out there 2.

 

wtf you on about my dogs certainly no jacker. a jacker is when the dog has no interest in chasing or cant be arsed. my dog will run hares in open fields until she is too stiff to move if i let her. like some one said i would rather she pull up before a fence and not risk injury rather than clatter her self all over for the sake of a rabbit. each to there own i suppose but i know what a prefer. she 21 month now and ive had hundereds of rabbits and 30 or 40 hares last season and barely even a scratch, my mates dog who dives into everything full pelt was laid up most of the season and is laid up now with a very nasty leg injury. fair enough he might get the odd hedge rabbit but has missed weeks and weeks of the season where ive been out every night getting a consistent 10 or so on average. think about it.

if a dog dont give 100% on every rabbit wouldnt have it in my way my bitch will hit the ditch after a rabbit and nearly allways get them cause she no they will bolt out again.my buds collie/whippet smashes ditches after rabbits allso and both dogs hadnt an injury all season.my other buds whiipet/grey backs off rabbits as they get to the ditch and he never gets close to the amount of rabbits as the other dogs.

[mighty celt 996]

a good thing about my colie coss is if there is a rabbit to one side of the field she will push them away from the fence where other dogs would chase through the fence, i have noticed this alot and i prefer the way a collie works, cutting game off etc. i do like to watch bull crosses etc work it is mpressive the amount of determination they have but i know im not resonsible for the vet bills.

its not just collies that turn them off the ditch mate any good lamping dog should do this.

[adamb20 22]

a good thing about my colie coss is if there is a rabbit to one side of the field she will push them away from the fence where other dogs would chase through the fence, i have noticed this alot and i prefer the way a collie works, cutting game off etc. i do like to watch bull crosses etc work it is mpressive the amount of determination they have but i know im not resonsible for the vet bills.

its not just collies that turn them off the ditch mate any good lamping dog should do this.

 

well my dogs the only one i have seen do it.

[adamb20 22]

had acolie lurcher years ago who started rating her rabits next to cover no god ,but the collie type i have b now get stuck in if a rabbit hits afence hedge they try and pull him out

 

yeah mine will hit cover if the rabbits there i mean the likes of bull crosses where if they chase a rabbit through the same fence 9 times they will try just as hard the tenth time when theres obviously no hope. i am a great believer that collie crosses can estimate thier own capabilities and judge weather a run is feasible or not, where other more simple minded crosses only think 'kill'.

whos the boss mate u r your dog its as simple as this if u slip your dog on a rabbit and your dog dont move its a jacker simple as whats the point in keeping a dog that only goes for easy rabbits.most collie crosses 2 much brain not enough heart.but there is some good ones out there 2.

 

wtf you on about my dogs certainly no jacker. a jacker is when the dog has no interest in chasing or cant be arsed. my dog will run hares in open fields until she is too stiff to move if i let her. like some one said i would rather she pull up before a fence and not risk injury rather than clatter her self all over for the sake of a rabbit. each to there own i suppose but i know what a prefer. she 21 month now and ive had hundereds of rabbits and 30 or 40 hares last season and barely even a scratch, my mates dog who dives into everything full pelt was laid up most of the season and is laid up now with a very nasty leg injury. fair enough he might get the odd hedge rabbit but has missed weeks and weeks of the season where ive been out every night getting a consistent 10 or so on average. think about it.

if a dog dont give 100% on every rabbit wouldnt have it in my way my bitch will hit the ditch after a rabbit and nearly allways get them cause she no they will bolt out again.my buds collie/whippet smashes ditches after rabbits allso and both dogs hadnt an injury all season.my other buds whiipet/grey backs off rabbits as they get to the ditch and he never gets close to the amount of rabbits as the other dogs.

 

yes im not talking About that i know what you mean im taking about places where the rabbits have runs and gaps in fences and they through and away like lightening. obviously my dog hits hedges its when she has chased them through gaps in fences etc in the same place with no joy when she pulls up.

[whin 463]

most dogs if worked hard start rating there game but had some even as old as nine past never rated them chased them as a two year old dog would thtas the type i advise any man to breed of, if a dog starts looking at game far away as not for catching well ,its time to retire him or a less taxing home somenites i lamp qaurry 200 yrds away and more in some ares all you see is eyes dog has to get up there and wind him and the chase is on half lite half dark , i like a dog that gets up the beam quick pressures the qaury to make the mistake , but rabbits most dogs can catch a rabbit but only determined dogs cath them any were , most dogs ive had ive run hard to hard by 5 past there best and are on the way back, ,there starting to lose a yard or two, but still catch rabbits no prob amd the odd big nite ,ifyou have acses to drive stubbles and catch large qauntities of game it knocks years of your dog sometimes but youll getmoregame all depends what you want to do and your approach to the game in hand,

[poacher3161 1,766]

most dogs if worked hard start rating there game but had some even as old as nine past never rated them chased them as a two year old dog would thtas the type i advise any man to breed of, if a dog starts looking at game far away as not for catching well ,its time to retire him or a less taxing home somenites i lamp qaurry 200 yrds away and more in some ares all you see is eyes dog has to get up there and wind him and the chase is on half lite half dark , i like a dog that gets up the beam quick pressures the qaury to make the mistake , but rabbits most dogs can catch a rabbit but only determined dogs cath them any were , most dogs ive had ive run hard to hard by 5 past there best and are on the way back, ,there starting to lose a yard or two, but still catch rabbits no prob amd the odd big nite ,ifyou have acses to drive stubbles and catch large qauntities of game it knocks years of your dog sometimes but youll getmoregame all depends what you want to do and your approach to the game in hand,

True very true.The amount of work can age a dog quikly same as humans.

[adamb20 22]

most dogs if worked hard start rating there game but had some even as old as nine past never rated them chased them as a two year old dog would thtas the type i advise any man to breed of, if a dog starts looking at game far away as not for catching well ,its time to retire him or a less taxing home somenites i lamp qaurry 200 yrds away and more in some ares all you see is eyes dog has to get up there and wind him and the chase is on half lite half dark , i like a dog that gets up the beam quick pressures the qaury to make the mistake , but rabbits most dogs can catch a rabbit but only determined dogs cath them any were , most dogs ive had ive run hard to hard by 5 past there best and are on the way back, ,there starting to lose a yard or two, but still catch rabbits no prob amd the odd big nite ,ifyou have acses to drive stubbles and catch large qauntities of game it knocks years of your dog sometimes but youll getmoregame all depends what you want to do and your approach to the game in hand,

True very true.The amount of work can age a dog quikly same as humans.

 

what so it is better to out less than all the time for a dog?

[poacher3161 1,766]

most dogs if worked hard start rating there game but had some even as old as nine past never rated them chased them as a two year old dog would thtas the type i advise any man to breed of, if a dog starts looking at game far away as not for catching well ,its time to retire him or a less taxing home somenites i lamp qaurry 200 yrds away and more in some ares all you see is eyes dog has to get up there and wind him and the chase is on half lite half dark , i like a dog that gets up the beam quick pressures the qaury to make the mistake , but rabbits most dogs can catch a rabbit but only determined dogs cath them any were , most dogs ive had ive run hard to hard by 5 past there best and are on the way back, ,there starting to lose a yard or two, but still catch rabbits no prob amd the odd big nite ,ifyou have acses to drive stubbles and catch large qauntities of game it knocks years of your dog sometimes but youll getmoregame all depends what you want to do and your approach to the game in hand,

True very true.The amount of work can age a dog quikly same as humans.

 

what so it is better to out less than all the time for a dog?

Every thing has its limits of endurance its not in any dogs best intrest to be worked hard seven days a week plus theirs a big difference in running them and takeing them out for a steady walk.

[adamb20 22]

most dogs if worked hard start rating there game but had some even as old as nine past never rated them chased them as a two year old dog would thtas the type i advise any man to breed of, if a dog starts looking at game far away as not for catching well ,its time to retire him or a less taxing home somenites i lamp qaurry 200 yrds away and more in some ares all you see is eyes dog has to get up there and wind him and the chase is on half lite half dark , i like a dog that gets up the beam quick pressures the qaury to make the mistake , but rabbits most dogs can catch a rabbit but only determined dogs cath them any were , most dogs ive had ive run hard to hard by 5 past there best and are on the way back, ,there starting to lose a yard or two, but still catch rabbits no prob amd the odd big nite ,ifyou have acses to drive stubbles and catch large qauntities of game it knocks years of your dog sometimes but youll getmoregame all depends what you want to do and your approach to the game in hand,

True very true.The amount of work can age a dog quikly same as humans.

 

what so it is better to out less than all the time for a dog?

Every thing has its limits of endurance its not in any dogs best intrest to be worked hard seven days a week plus theirs a big difference in running them and takeing them out for a steady walk.

 

ok see what you mean mate.

[adamb20 22]

read back through ive wrote moore and cant see how i come across as a school kid or where i contradict my self, point it out if you want as i cant see it. i dont know why you so botherd im not knocking your dog in any way i know its a good dog, im simply saying what i prefer to have as my own dog. if everyone one liked the same type of dog the lurcher world would be pretty boring in my opinion.

Edited May 4, 2010 by adamb20

[cooper101 86]

im no expert on collie xz in fact im a total novice with this cross! this is the first collie x dog i have owned and up until the end of this season he was hard fast exciting to watch ive had regular good sized mixed bags with him!! i ran him hard all season as it was his second season and after my first with him when he was a year old i really wanted to test him and thats exactly what i did!! around december time his runs changed he started to work the rabbits the minute he was sent, running wide of the beam and pushing them out into the field!! only running when he had to! this was a strange experiance for me as i was used to dogs that just went for it hell for leather!! but as it was working i had no problem with it just took some getting used to !!

 

here comes the worst bit he started to slow up on rabbits that were on the hedgeline and i bollocked him so i tried again and again the same thing happened everytime i was getting angrier the dog was not wanting to return really made the night a horrible experiance for us both!!

so i thought this is it season over let him have a good rest through summer and try again next season!! but no i couldnt rest thinking my pride and joy had lost intrest in the thing i thought he loved doing as much as me!! so i tried him again he had just aquired a taste for charlie so i know hes still keen on the lamp its just theses edgline feckers!! anyways ive been talking to lots of dirrent people about this problem ive just encountered and also had lurchermen out with me!! and they feel my voice and mannerism towards my dog now is aggressive and sharp barking orders at him contastantly, this is new and i didnt realise i was doing it!! its frustration towrds the situation with the dog causing a big rift in our working relationship hes unhappy im unhappy makes for a bad mix when your out ment to be working in harmony together( basically were no longer friends) !! so im taking drastic action lol!!letting him be a dog play over the park go to the beach splash in rivers even playfighting to build up my bond with my dog again(no hunting)!!

 

i belive now and i trust the opinion that have been given to me that i have got to get a strong bond back with my dog and my old tone of voice back so that he can enjoy it again like he used to!! like i said he was run very hard this season and i could have pushed him a bit to far!!

i think they can sense our moods and it can affect there performance!! i'll let you know if i rectify this mistake i belive now that i made and fingers crossed i can sort it!! he was unbelivable starting the season almost through to the end and i dont think it fair i give up on him without trying to mend what i caused!!

[HBG 350]

a good thing about my colie coss is if there is a rabbit to one side of the field she will push them away from the fence where other dogs would chase through the fence, i have noticed this alot and i prefer the way a collie works, cutting game off etc. i do like to watch bull crosses etc work it is mpressive the amount of determination they have but i know im not resonsible for the vet bills.

most experienced dogs do this some just try that bit more,i think you need to get out wid a few more experienced lads wid DIFFERENT CROSSES then you maybe would'nt be so kennel and breed blind

[Rory4 267]

my little 21 month old first x collie whippet in her first season was not chasing hedge rabbits on the lamp. which totally done my head in, she was prob right on 70% of the times. done mostly day time work with her and in day love cover and wouldnt stop at a hedge, retrieved couple day time long ears putting pressure on them right to the hedge before they had chance to get to gateways. hopefully get her some easy runs out on lamp start next season to get confidence up.

 

cheers

[stormyboy 1,352]

im no expert on collie xz in fact im a total novice with this cross! this is the first collie x dog i have owned and up until the end of this season he was hard fast exciting to watch ive had regular good sized mixed bags with him!! i ran him hard all season as it was his second season and after my first with him when he was a year old i really wanted to test him and thats exactly what i did!! around december time his runs changed he started to work the rabbits the minute he was sent, running wide of the beam and pushing them out into the field!! only running when he had to! this was a strange experiance for me as i was used to dogs that just went for it hell for leather!! but as it was working i had no problem with it just took some getting used to !!

 

here comes the worst bit he started to slow up on rabbits that were on the hedgeline and i bollocked him so i tried again and again the same thing happened everytime i was getting angrier the dog was not wanting to return really made the night a horrible experiance for us both!!

so i thought this is it season over let him have a good rest through summer and try again next season!! but no i couldnt rest thinking my pride and joy had lost intrest in the thing i thought he loved doing as much as me!! so i tried him again he had just aquired a taste for charlie so i know hes still keen on the lamp its just theses edgline feckers!! anyways ive been talking to lots of dirrent people about this problem ive just encountered and also had lurchermen out with me!! and they feel my voice and mannerism towards my dog now is aggressive and sharp barking orders at him contastantly, this is new and i didnt realise i was doing it!! its frustration towrds the situation with the dog causing a big rift in our working relationship hes unhappy im unhappy makes for a bad mix when your out ment to be working in harmony together( basically were no longer friends) !! so im taking drastic action lol!!letting him be a dog play over the park go to the beach splash in rivers even playfighting to build up my bond with my dog again(no hunting)!!

 

i belive now and i trust the opinion that have been given to me that i have got to get a strong bond back with my dog and my old tone of voice back so that he can enjoy it again like he used to!! like i said he was run very hard this season and i could have pushed him a bit to far!!

i think they can sense our moods and it can affect there performance!! i'll let you know if i rectify this mistake i belive now that i made and fingers crossed i can sort it!! he was unbelivable starting the season almost through to the end and i dont think it fair i give up on him without trying to mend what i caused!!

 

 

THE BEST POST I HAVE READ FOR A LONG TIME. GOOD ON YOU COOP! Im betting the dog will come right for you.