who are we all voting for ?

[Matt 160]

They have promised a free vote on hunting in their manifesto.

 

Not hunting with hounds, but hunting.

 

Many people believe that there will be a repeal bill, which will get rid of a whole heap of legislation (ID cards, hunting and other stuff), and that they will then allow a free vote on a new hunting bill as before. The chances are that if that happens, then they will not allow time for a bill, no matter what the outcome of the free vote is.

 

We all have to accept that while hunting is a big issue for us, the majority of the electorate consider the economy and other issues to be far more important.

 

One thing is for sure; if you vote for minority parties like the BNP and UKIP at this general election, then Labour have more chance of keeping power. If they keep power, they are likely to tighten the hunting laws even more.

 

Don't waste your vote, no matter where your allegiances lie.

[kill um with crisps 7]

as title says who are we voting for ? i am voting for labour.

 

You're on a hunting forum, and you are voting labour???

 

 

FFS, I've seen it all now....

 

You carry on, vote for the lying, thieving, discriminating scum........ most of us have had enough of 'New Labour', and their broken promises and lies.

 

"We won't put up income tax" - so they put up National Insurance

 

"We'll clean up politics" - and three of them get legal aid to defend their fraud, while the party take a massive backhander off the antis.

 

Gordon Brown was never elected as prime minister, and shafted each and every one of us when he was Chancellor. Heard about how he sold our gold at a knock down price?

 

His latest screw up is to tax employers for keeping staff on while we try and work through his recession, and make it nigh on impossible to create new jobs. Great idea in a recession.

 

I heard today that he has borrowed more than if we had borrowed a million pounds every day since the first Christmas.

 

And then there is the hunting ban. Never has such a prejudiced, unfair, and unworkable piece of legislation been forced through parliament before.

 

And you want more New Labour?

 

The sooner the scum who are masquerading as socialists are thrown onto the scrap heap where they belong, the better.

 

 

 

If you vote BNP then you are voting for a party that supports, and helps to fund the RSPCA....

 

If you vote New Labour, then you are a poor deluded soul.

 

Vote for change, vote for the future, and most importantly, VOTE FOR HUNTING!

 

 

They have promised a free vote on hunting in their manifesto.

 

Not hunting with hounds, but hunting.

 

Many people believe that there will be a repeal bill, which will get rid of a whole heap of legislation (ID cards, hunting and other stuff), and that they will then allow a free vote on a new hunting bill as before. The chances are that if that happens, then they will not allow time for a bill, no matter what the outcome of the free vote is.

 

We all have to accept that while hunting is a big issue for us, the majority of the electorate consider the economy and other issues to be far more important.

 

One thing is for sure; if you vote for minority parties like the BNP and UKIP at this general election, then Labour have more chance of keeping power. If they keep power, they are likely to tighten the hunting laws even more.

 

Don't waste your vote, no matter where your allegiances lie.

 

Matt credit where its due, you have well and truley said something i can thoroughly agree with! Anyone who votes for labour certainly deosnt deserve even the drippings off the nose of anyone who loves the countryside or for that matter the country! And as for ukip etc, well they aint gonna get in anyway so a vote for them is a wasted vote. And yes its true the tories may well not overturn the ban but at least they HAVE promised a free vote and thats the best weve got at the moment. As for everything else about them, well i VERY much doubt they will f**k this country and its hard working (and in a lot of cases desperate to survive) citizens quite like labour has. To be honest i would rather have the monster raving looney party in power than the set of c**ts that we have at the moment!

[readie 184]

conservative or bnp for me.conservative only because i despise labour fcuking tawts and bnp as a last resort to stop immigrants taking over england.

[Swampy 147]

So if the BNP can't do it. These dudes just might!

 

Big voting ning

[arcticgun 4,548]

its to late imho we are to far down the road to be saved, imho they should get all the old voting slips from the last few elections and see who exactly voted for labour and then bill them for all the money wasted during there term in power

[arcticgun 4,548]

So if the BNP can't do it. These dudes just might!

 

Big voting ning

 

lol the americans get the Black panthers, we'd end up with the pink panthers lmao

[gnasher16 30,046]

If you vote BNP then you are voting for a party that supports, and helps to fund the RSPCA....

 

If you vote New Labour, then you are a poor deluded soul.

 

Vote for change, vote for the future, and most importantly, VOTE FOR HUNTING!

 

 

Sorry to say it ol son but on the grand scheme of things the rspca are insignificant compared to the major problems this country face.....ok so voting bnp means you vote for a party that helps fund the rspca.....but if you vote labour or tory you vote for a party that helps fund half the population of the f****n world !!!!!

 

So i,ll vote bnp and if/when all go,s well we can try to wise up the bnp on the rspca......one step at a time/priorities and all that

[mcculloch lurchers 0]

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High Court delivers new blow to the Hunting Act

February 6, 2009

 

A news report by the ‘Countryside Alliance:

 

Many of you will be aware of all or part of the story of Tony Wright, the first huntsman to be prosecuted under the Hunting Act, but after his victory in the High Court on Wednesday, it is worth repeating. Tony’s story is very much the story of the demise of the Act.

 

A few weeks after the Hunting Act came into force in February 2005 Tony, huntsman of the Exmoor Foxhounds, took two hounds from the kennels near the village of Simonsbath to a meet at Prayway Head. He was setting in train a chain of events that would lead, four years later, to the High Court and yesterday’s judgement that has brought the repeal of that law significantly closer.

 

Six months later he was served with a summons to face a private prosecution by the League Against Cruel Sports. A Magistrates Court in Barnstaple found him guilty, despite the fact that he was very publicly using just two hounds to flush foxes to a gun as he thought the law allowed. He appealed, and in December 2007 the Crown Court in Exeter threw out his conviction finding that he had been hunting legally and observing that the Hunting Act “is far from simple to interpret or to applyâ€.

 

That was not, however, the end of the case. Two other courts were due to hear cases, including one against the Devon and Somerset Stag-hounds who also became party to the judgement, and the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) appealed to try and clarify some of the confusion. The appeal reached the High Court before Christmas where the CPS argued that it should be for people like Tony carrying out exempt hunting to prove that they were hunting legally and that the mere act of searching for a mammal should be included in the offence of ‘hunting’.

 

Yesterday the High Court rejected that appeal and upheld the judgement that acquitted Tony Wright. In legal terms the judgement limits the definition of ‘hunting’ to the pursuit of a mammal with dogs; it upholds the presumption of innocence for people involved in legal hunting by putting the burden of proof on the prosecution to prove that any hunting is illegal; and it confirms that ‘hunting’ can only be intentional – you cannot hunt by accident.

 

In practical terms the ruling will make the prosecution of those involved in exempt hunting much more difficult. The CPS argued in court that if it lost this appeal “prosecutions under the 2004 Act would rarely be viableâ€. Only three hunts have been successfully prosecuted since the Act came into force in 2005, and 5 people connected to them have been convicted. If prosecutors do not regard the Act as viable then there may now be even fewer cases. The police, meanwhile, will be left wondering how to enforce the unenforceable.

 

In political terms the judgement brought a barrage of comment on the failure of the Hunting Act and the need for repeal headed by powerful editorials in the Times and the Telegraph.

 

Four years of confusion have led politicians of all parties to realise that, whatever their views on hunting, the Hunting Act has failed. Repeal of the Act has moved from a possibility to a probability and it is now incumbent on all of us to follow Tony’s lead and do our part in the final push towards repeal. There is a maximum of 483 days to the next election and in that time no-one must be left in any doubt of our commitment, or of the unarguable case for repeal.

 

The Act must be repealed so that when Tony Wright takes the Exmoor hounds to Pray Way Head in two years time he does not have to worry about whether his hunting is legal, whether there is an animal rights activist covertly filming him, or whether he will face another vindictive prosecution.

 

Further information via this link

 

 

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ZaNu Labour’s Marxist class hatred and the hunting ban

November 26, 2008

For a number of years now we, at Land & People, have been telling you that ZaNu Labour’s motivation in the introduction of anti-hunt legislation was “traditional†Marxist class hatred pure and simple. All their talk about “animal welfare†being just more of the dishonest spin one expects from this gang of self-serving spivs and proven through their support for the most prolific form of animal abuse in Britain today – ritual slaughter!

 

And, of course, we are not the only people alert to ZaNu Labour duplicity as the following piece from a Countryside Alliance document shows:

 

“You might have missed it but last week saw another significant landmark in the campaign for the repeal of the Hunting Act. Just as, shortly after the Act was passed, then Labour MP Peter Bradley’s statement that the Hunting Act was about “class war†was an admission of something that we had known for a very long time, another Labour MP has now confessed.

 

John McDonnell, MP for Hayes and Harlington and Chair of the Socialist Campaign Group of MPs, has owned up to the least surprising error of the decade. The Hunting Act, he says: “took a long time. There was a lot of discussion. We thought we got it right, but we clearly haven’t in this instanceâ€.

 

So there we are. 700 hours of parliamentary time, a ‘totemic’ issue for the Labour party and the use of the Parliament Acts has got us, just three and a half years later, to a point where even the Act’s most vociferous supporters are admitting that it doesn’t work. ‘We told you so’, is not exactly original but what else is there to say?â€

 

For the record, neither Land & People nor the British National Party have a policy on hunting – this being a matter of choice, rather than of oversight. This is because, in our opinion, issues of this nature are best left to local communities to resolve, preferable through the democratic device of local referenda. This is not a matter for national government and certainly not one that justifies the use (abuse!) of the Parliament Act!

 

Posted in Animal Welfare, Hunting | No Comments »

 

Policy briefing: Fox hunting & religious slaughter

October 21, 2008

We have recently had a number of queries (from both sides of the “divideâ€) as to where we stand on fox hunting. To that end we publish the following response.

 

Neither the Countrysider nor Land & People endorse hunting with hounds – we merely point out the hypocrisy surrounding Labour voting to ban fox-hunting on alleged animal cruelty grounds, whilst ignoring the far more prolific example of animal abuse enshrined in vile ritual slaughter. In so doing we are following Party policy – which has it that the BNP is neutral on the issue of fox hunting, does not believe it is the role of national government to legislate on such issues and further – that such issues are best resolved by the communities affected – advisedly through the use of local referendum.

 

As regards religious slaughter we would point out that the Law already prohibits the slaughter of animals in our abattoirs without prestunning, for the laudable reasons of reducing suffering and trauma for the beasts concerned. The ritual slaughter exemption, granted purely for political/social reasons, is clearly contrary to the spirit and intent of the Law and as such is unacceptable in any civilized society. Consequently, the BNP will legislate for the removal of this exemption, making it illegal in this country to slaughter any beast, without exception, in the absence of prescribed prestunning.

 

Posted in Animal Welfare, Halal, Hunting, Policy briefings | 1 Comment »

 

Labour doesn’t give a hoot about animal welfare

July 31, 2008

THE LABOUR Government’s ban on hunting with dogs has nothing whatsoever to do with animal welfare.

 

No government which encourages supermarket cartels to squeeze farmers so ruthlessly that they have to resort to factory farming – rearing chickens in such appalling conditions that 100,000 die of disease, injury or stress every week – has the right to criticise fox-hunters.

 

No government that exalts Islam as a wonderful religion and turns a blind eye to the brutal ritual slaughter of millions of defenceless herbivores has the right to use essentially emergency legislation to protect a few thousand beautiful, but ruthless, carnivores from the possibility of being chased and caught by hounds.

 

Labour doesn’t care about animal welfare.

 

The banning of fox-hunting was about a Prime Minister under pressure, desperately trying to bribe a handful of disgruntled extreme left-wing Labour MPs to back him at the next General Election.

 

It’s also about old-fashioned Marxist class warfare and Labour’s great ambition – the Abolition of Britain by the systematic dismantling of its identity and traditions.

[Dosser 52]

Mcculoch lurchers, thats a brilliant post. Thankyou.

Just shows with a little time (and an enquiring mind) the relevant information is available to ALL.

[dave1372 83]

Tories all the way for me. You have to think about all the promises Labour are making now........why now?.......they had 13 years to make a change and they didn't it got worse.

[shepp 2,285]

Vote Labour and within the next four years you may well hear talk of banning the practice of dogs ripping apart poor defence-less rabbits and rats.

If it suits there political needs then Labour are more than capable of doing it.

Just look at history.

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

The only reason I'll vote for the Tories is because they're our only hope, of at least loosening the restrictions on Hunting with dogs that have been dropped on us by Labour.

 

I don't really trust any politicians, and I hate Labour with a passion so I'll have to go with the Tories I think.

[mcculloch lurchers 0]

THE VIDEO LABOUR DID NOT WANT LEAKED.

IF THIS IS NOT A CLEAR INTENT TO TAKE OVER OUR COUNTRY, THEN I ASK YOU......WHAT MORE WILL IT TAKE YOU TO WAKE UP? MAYBE IF YOU'RE BEHEADED. BUT YOU'RE AWAKENING WILL BE A SHORT & PAINFUL ONE. THIS IS AN ELECTION YEAR. ...

[Matt 160]

THE VIDEO LABOUR DID NOT WANT LEAKED.

IF THIS IS NOT A CLEAR INTENT TO TAKE OVER OUR COUNTRY, THEN I ASK YOU......WHAT MORE WILL IT TAKE YOU TO WAKE UP? MAYBE IF YOU'RE BEHEADED. BUT YOU'RE AWAKENING WILL BE A SHORT & PAINFUL ONE. THIS IS AN ELECTION YEAR. ...

 

What a load of rubbish.

 

So if you don't vote BNP you will be be-headed?

 

Unbelievable crap as usual from the camouflaged Nazis.

[poacher3161 1,766]

I will vote on the most seriouse issue faceing my area immagration and out of desperation will vote B.N.P their our only chance of holding back the tide of multi cultureisem.