thurso jack 3 Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Yip if you get a dog into the 30`s and 40`s this is a great achievement, you certainly cant catch 100 if theres not the numbers to catch, where I come from I know of only 5 dogs that have been into the 50`s of rabbits in one night since the early 70`s, and less than 10 that have been into the 40`s, and Ive been out with 149 different dogs in my time, and know almost everybody here that has kept lurchers. 100 rabbits in one night I doubt I will ever see in my lifetime now...but it is a possiblity for a good lurcher to achieve it a lot of novices or people who dont hunt in areas where there are numbers do tend to think all they have to do is to turn up on the night Ive seen loads of these folk carrying dogs off the hills..For the best lurchers to catch 100 they would have to run around 150, at least...acounting for some squatters on the night, and some short runs, the dog still has to do a hell of a lot of graft, as a profit hunter I always go for what I consider to be the easiest on the night, but it dosnt always work that way, as most lurcher lads should realise, nobody will catch 100 chasing rabbits on the tip of the beam, or on golf courses, but even on the best hunting grounds you would need a dog of well above average dog, with the important temperament to run rabbit after rabbit all night, what crosses were the dogs catching the big bags doxhope? Quote Link to post
MATTI 34 Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 By the time i've cleaned and skinned half a dozen rabbit's i'm sick as a chip i hope my dog never catch's a 100 Quote Link to post
gaz 284 Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 (edited) 100 rabbits on the lamp,that would be some dog and in the same token it would need a experienced dog man with the beam too. By this i mean,knowing what coneys to pick out on the beam to be run by the dog especially as the night went on nearing the magic number of 100 as the wonder dog would be nearing exhaustion but also the dog would need a gee up to run so many rabbits without getting soured by all the runs and effort it would need to put in,so it would be a fine balance of giving enough rest between runs and keeping the dog keen with enough momentum on the night in question. Could it be done ? Well the dog would need to be at the top of its game aswell as in peak condition,it would need a fair bit of luck as not to sustain the many injuries that a lamping dog can pick up on a nights work ending its goal of 100 rabbits and also the ground were this feat of endurance and athletic prowess was to happen would need to favour the dog with the fast, flat well grazed fields a big no no.adding to this a place thick with rabbits that hasn't been lamped for a good while to once again swing the odds in the dogs favour................................ its a hell of a lot to ask for,so i dunno if it can But what i can say with confidence it wouldn't be my dogs as i dont think i could push them this hard just to catch the humble rabbit in these numbers even if they were capable of having enough in the tank to do so Edited July 23, 2007 by gaz Quote Link to post
scottish lurcher 185 Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 100 one dog must b hard,,, where i am we are lucky to get 10 runs but have been up to scotland with mik an managed 20 up to 30, how much land would you need to work to catch 100 a nite need to be like watership down .what the most hares you heared of being taking in a day either by lamp or day time and where was it ? please all story tellers stay clear of this Quote Link to post
Guest bob Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 ok what would have to be in the mix and to what % would it take to produce a 100 a night rabbiting dog and is anybody going to take up the challange to produce 100 rabbits with 1 dog from a nights lamping this comeing season ?? Quote Link to post
Guest MOLLY Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Personally i dont think its what is in the mix as in the dog its self. As well as being able to lamp (of course) the most important thing is the stamina and fitness of the dog. Ive seen crosses you would not believe have incredible stamina, and crosses you would expect to have, did not. MOLL. Quote Link to post
Guest WILF Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 ok what would have to be in the mix and to what % would it take to produce a 100 a night rabbiting dog and is anybody going to take up the challange to produce 100 rabbits with 1 dog from a nights lamping this comeing season ?? I would take up that challenge..............but I have shite dogs Quote Link to post
lurcherman 28 Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 With the right dog and in the right condions it is defonatley possible lurcherman Quote Link to post
doxhope 2 Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 ok what would have to be in the mix and to what % would it take to produce a 100 a night rabbiting dog and is anybody going to take up the challange to produce 100 rabbits with 1 dog from a nights lamping this comeing season ?? I will take up the challenge with you that it wont be done Bob, pool our money together Quote Link to post
Guest Bunny Basher Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 My next door neighbour called John M, who was only 16 or 17 years old at the time, was bag man for Victor Minshaw and they took a dog called Whizz, a blue and tan bitch, she was a a daughter of Blue and grand-daughter of ASD Bulpa, on the dams side, and she caught 108 rabbits and 1 hare single handed near Scotch Corner in the early 90's. Its a well known fact in our area, but its also known that Blue took over 100 rabbits single handed on more than one occasion. My dads friend called Sherman from Keswick was the bag man on that occasion and he was also there when Blue killed 96 running solo on a well known place called White Gates near Penrith Quote Link to post
juckler123 707 Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 You need a hell of a lot of bunnys in an area to do a hundred on the lamp ive known it be done but only when blocking game holes on moorsides ive hit sixtys more than a few times but these were also on gameholed walls with the holes left open but the numbers soon decrease as you hit an area what starts at sixty is in three good nights forty then so on if theres dogs out there like the minshaw strain and doxhopes dererhound strains was back then they want to be worshipped like gods the rabbits are there in numbers in many places but its rare to see hauls like them today. Quote Link to post
doxhope 2 Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 My next door neighbour called John M, who was only 16 or 17 years old at the time, was bag man for Victor Minshaw and they took a dog called Whizz, a blue and tan bitch, she was a a daughter of Blue and grand-daughter of ASD Bulpa, on the dams side, and she caught 108 rabbits and 1 hare single handed near Scotch Corner in the early 90's. Its a well known fact in our area, but its also known that Blue took over 100 rabbits single handed on more than one occasion. My dads friend called Sherman from Keswick was the bag man on that occasion and he was also there when Blue killed 96 running solo on a well known place called White Gates near Penrith Excellent stuff there mate, again an istance showing that Minshaw stuff wasnt just a one dog wonder, (which a lot of us new anyhow) producing dogs that also made the grade is testimony to the bloke..Dogs now and again are produced that are well above average, but, cant produce similar quality in their offspring, but when you hear of good dogs producing good dogs, well, somethings right...and when you see chalks like the one above, just stand up and applaud I was once asked 'do you really need a dog that can kill 50+ rabbits in one night'? No you dont, just carry on sitting on your comfy sofa and read your lurcher books and gaze dreamily into your Mick Cawston prints... Quote Link to post
Guest POT FILLER Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 IN THE 90S LADS THERE WERE ALOT MORE GAME ABOUT THAN THERE IS TODAY MY LOCAL AREA WAS ALIVE WITH BUNNYS AND HARES TILL THE SHOOTS CAME,IVE LAMPED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND I DONT BELIEVE YOU COULD CATCH 100 BUNNYS TODAY WITH 1 DOG ,EVEN GOING YORKSHIRE DALES EARLY IN THE SEASON YOU WILL PROBLEY JUST MANAGE ABOUT 50 WALKING ALL NIGHT,REGARDS POT FILLER Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,068 Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 this is posibly another question and a hole new debate , but do you realy think there is less game about now than what there was? i personaly think there is more than ever. yes some area's that get hit hard there will be less. but on the hole nation wide farmers, land owners are now complaining more than ever about the rising population of bunnys. and thats a good thing for us more likly the reason people arnt getting the same large bags as before is because they aint trying new area's or just dont have the desire to keep going on that extra hour or two. lets be honest alot of lads 10 and 20 years ago ernt a few bob from selling game , especialy were there was large unemployment. pit area's especialy. now a days on the hole there's more emplyment so the need to get those big big bags isnt necessary for most 15- 20 being plenty. nowt wrong in that of course, its all about getting out and enjoying yourself. but theres still a few of us that want to try and push the bounderys TOMO Quote Link to post
Guest SJM Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Around here the population has definately taken a nose dive in recent years. I went up to a mates ground about 20 miles from here and we saw maybe 10 rabbits the whole time we were out shooting pheasants, just a few years ago you could have spent a morning on there and got 20 - 30 easy and seen loads sitting outside the holes etc. My mate reckons it has to be something that culls them harshly like that VHD because one minute they are there and the next minute your struggling to find rabbits, and you cant kill them if theyre not there to be killed Quote Link to post
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