transporting rifles

[Cobra 0]

Out of interest how do you fellas store your rifles and bullets when driveing to your shoot. Do you remove the bolt from the rifle and keep the bullets in a separate bag etc. what are the legal requirements etc so if the police stop you in the car you are all legal. Cheers

[HEDS 0]

Dont know if im doing right but i always have the rifle in a sleeve and out of sight in the car.

Have the bolt and bullets in my pocket.

I dont see what more i can do without going OTT.

[RicW 67]

Rifle in slipcase, bolt out, ammo separate. If you have to stop for a slash, rifle in boot/out of sight. If you have to leave the car lock it!

 

Ric

[Jkm 1]

I've always had the gun in a case with no bolt in and mag out of gun and always no bullets in the mag,also never keep the bolt or bullets on me keep them in my shooting bag along with FAC and permission form this was the way i was shown by my dads old mate the FAO.

Edited April 7, 2010 by Jkm

[Deker 3,478]

The magazine needs to be out during transport, the bolt doesn't, nevertheless it's probably a good idea!

 

Ammo can be stored with (not loaded in) the gun, but still preferably out of site!

 

If you stop, leave the vehicle etc, you need to take all reasonable precautions!

[JonathanL 4]

Out of interest how do you fellas store your rifles and bullets when driveing to your shoot. Do you remove the bolt from the rifle and keep the bullets in a separate bag etc. what are the legal requirements etc so if the police stop you in the car you are all legal. Cheers

 

The legal requirementS are contained in the conditions on your FAC. Basically, "reasonable" security precautions must be taken.

 

If the gun and ammo are out of sight and not left for an unreasonably long period in an unattended vehicle then I doubt you will have too many problems.

 

The bottom line is that you should ask your self "if my gun gets piched can I show that the way I stored it was reasonable?". Or; "Is there anything else I can reasonably do to make the gun less nickable?"

 

The word reasonable is the key point here. You only need to do what is reasonable in the circumstances to secure the gun, not something which is unreasonable. For instance, you don't need to transport it by armoured car every time you go 5 miles to to bust bunnies. However, if you were travelling with guns everyday - especially more than one meaning you muight have to leave one in the car - then maybe it would be reasonable to fit a gunsafe in the car?

 

Personally, I keep them in the boot and lock all the doors when I'm driving to stop any opportunists trying to snatch it if I'm stopped at lights or something.

 

J.

[JonathanL 4]

The magazine needs to be out during transport, the bolt doesn't, nevertheless it's probably a good idea!

Ammo can be stored with (not loaded in) the gun, but still preferably out of site!

 

If you stop, leave the vehicle etc, you need to take all reasonable precautions!

 

Good point. Ammo in the gun, or in a magazine or loading device, will probably leave you open to a charge of having a loaded firearm in a public place without reasonable excuse or lawful authority which is a pretty serious offence.

 

J.

[waidmann 105]

i keep the rifle in a slip in the boot.bolt and the amunition and magazine in my jacket. i find this a reasonable precaution. if the rifle is stolen with no bolt,ammo,magazine then it would be (for the time being anyway) unusable.

 

waidmann.

[jamie g 17]

as long as the rifle is in a case and there is not ammo in the rifle your fine. dont matter if you leave the mag in the rifle. as long as there is no ammo in the mag.

[Colster 1]

I tend to have the gun in slip with bolt in but ammo and mags in game bag.

 

While we are all here discussing this, I seem to remember reading somewhere that if you are involved in an RTA while carrying guns (even if just as a witness) you are obliged to advise the attending officer(s) as soon as possible that you have a firearm in the car.

 

Is this right?

[JonathanL 4]

I tend to have the gun in slip with bolt in but ammo and mags in game bag.

 

While we are all here discussing this, I seem to remember reading somewhere that if you are involved in an RTA while carrying guns (even if just as a witness) you are obliged to advise the attending officer(s) as soon as possible that you have a firearm in the car.

 

Is this right?

 

If you are involved it's a good idea to tell officers that you have guns in the car because if you are leaving the vehicle then your guns will be unattended which may leave you in breach if the security condition on your cert. If you aren't concious though you can't. There is no requirement which says you have to inform the cops of the fact that you have firearms with you if you are a witness or passer-by. You have to produce your cert to them if they ask for it but there's nothing which says you have to tell them without them asking - unless it's relevant in some way.

 

J.

[danebrewer10 6]

I just stick mine in a slip behind the back seat ammo and all, as I'm in the car, If i know i'll need to go somewhere and leave the rifle in the car then I pass a plastic coated steel cable through the trigger guard and around the rear seat hinge (with the rifle in the boot) and put a padlock on it with the wire coming out of the back of the slip, I'll then put the bolt in the glove box or take it with me if I have some big enough pockets allong with the ammo. same with the shotgun but I leave the ammo in the boot as I can't really discreetly drag a cartridge bag around town....

 

DB

[Colster 1]

 

 

If you are involved it's a good idea to tell officers that you have guns in the car because if you are leaving the vehicle then your guns will be unattended which may leave you in breach if the security condition on your cert. If you aren't concious though you can't. There is no requirement which says you have to inform the cops of the fact that you have firearms with you if you are a witness or passer-by. You have to produce your cert to them if they ask for it but there's nothing which says you have to tell them without them asking - unless it's relevant in some way.

 

J.

 

Thanks, it occured to me last night on my way lamping when some moron decided to come round a bend on my side of the road. A near miss but it got me thinking about what would happen, wouldn't want to go bounding up to copz saying "Hey, I got a shootah in me motah" and them thinking "Why the fck is he telling us that... ah well better introduce him to Mr Truncheon just to be sure"

[flytie 1]

I was advised by my FEO; Bolt in holster on my belt, Ammo in pouch on my belt, rifle in its slip. If I have to leave the vehicle unattended I use a firearm security cable to lock the rifle to the car floor pan.

 

http://firearmsecuritycable.com/page8.html

 

So at no time is the vehicle left unattended with all the rifles component parts and ammunition in it, and the rifle is secured and rendered unusable. Legal opinion (from a solicitor) is that this is reasonable care!

 

ft

[Hoolit 2]

Here is one i tried earlier very effective.

Rifle in slip on floor back of truck ammo in locked glove box drive 20 miles to shoot F****** bolt left in top section gun cabinet .

A peach