paulus 26 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 simple just aply for both wont cost you anymore then youve got 5 years to get them. Quote Link to post
allydog 4 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Go for .22 cz style 16" SILENT BUT DEADLY Quote Link to post
waidmann 105 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Go for .22 cz style 16" SILENT BUT DEADLY thats what i have bud and am very happy with it waidmann Quote Link to post
waidmann 105 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Theres been isolated cases were polar bears have been killed with a .22 LR, doesn't make it the right tool for the job.... Same as a .17hmr, stick 20gr in and you could drop roe deer out to 100yd head shots, apart from being illegal and showing disrespect for your quarry... To be honest if I was out with a HMR taking a long shot at a fox and clipped it outside the head/chest region and it ran on wounded... I'd be gutted, to me thats my fault, firstly because the calibre I was using DID NOT allow enough room for human error and secondly for making a foul shot, that I shoudn't have done, nothings guaranteed.... Anyway, people will do as people do... As for the HMR and .22LR yes they both have there place....If I was going to shoot 100 rabbits with a HMR, HEAD shooting them, there would be some blood soaked, snotted up rabbits in the back come the end of the night, plus I'd be minimum £25 down compare to £8 with the .22LR the difference being that people all over the coutry are shooting fox (legally) with the 17 hmr and for that matter the .22lr(area specific). the 17 is imho NOT a dedicated fox caliber but when out lamping if a fox comes within 100m he gets the good news(most of the permission is a chicken farmers,some of it a sheep farmers)if i have 40gr in the .22lr i will take him on with that at the same distance 38gr up to 50-60m(that i MUST be confident of the shot is clear no matter what caliber i am using). the 17 is a good caliber for day and night rabbit giving that extra bit of range(compared to the .22lr) and when we have both with us the caliber of choice for foxes. there are better cal' for fox no doubt (.222/.223/ .204/.243............) waidmann Quote Link to post
walshy0988 28 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 ive had both the .22lr and .17hmr and ive kept the .22lr its alot better for me and my land. The 22lr would be my choice its a much better rabbiting tool IMO. Walshy Quote Link to post
pigeon640 0 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 im ok with all the above postes on here nice to see noone putting the toys out the pram and having there say in a nice manner colin Quote Link to post
niffkin 1 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Im sure i am going over points that have already been mentioned. I have a 17hmr that i am very happy with for rabbit shooting . Cons Ammo more expensive £8.75 per 50 rounds Noisier than a .22 but saying that with the right moderator very successful i have shot 3 rabbits before that were sitting in very close together and knocked them off one by one. A lot more prone to wind than the heavier .22 Definately more carcass damage, BUT surely what ever you are hunting you should always go for head shots to ensure a clean kill if not then you dont pull the trigger, hence no carcass damage. Pros An amazing calibre with a flat trajectory to 100 yards . And no Richochets with ballistic tip ammo, so safer to use which has to be a big bonus. Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 I have a few observations I would appreciate your response on...Cheers!! Im sure i am going over points that have already been mentioned. I have a 17hmr that i am very happy with for rabbit shooting . Cons Ammo more expensive £8.75 per 50 rounds. Can you still find the ammo at this price? Noisier than a .22 but saying that with the right moderator very successful i have shot 3 rabbits before that were sitting in very close together and knocked them off one by one. A lot more prone to wind than the heavier .22 .....Take a look at the Graph! Definately more carcass damage, BUT surely what ever you are hunting you should always go for head shots WHY??? to ensure a clean kill if not then you dont pull the trigger, hence no carcass damage. Pros An amazing calibre with a flat trajectory to 100 yards . At what range have you zeroed to give this? And no Richochets with ballistic tip ammo, Give it time, you will have!! so safer to use which has to be a big bonus. So Safety is based on the fact they do not ricochet BulletWinddrift.doc Quote Link to post
pigeon640 0 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 @8.50 for 50 rounds all have some where do you get 17hmr at that price ?? as i pay about 11.75 /12pounds ish cheers colin Quote Link to post
niffkin 1 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 I buy my 17hmr ammo (Hornady) from country way gun shop in Kent. That is no exageration as i bought 500 rounds today and the total came to £87.50 that has nothing to do with the quantity i bought. The Gun shop is fantastic they have a very high turn over on everything they own as they do not put a big profit margin on what they sell, this includes cartridges and guns ! Country way gun shop 140 Norman rd west malling kent me19 6rw Tel no. 01732 841311 speak to Tim www.countrywaygunshop.co.uk 1 Quote Link to post
Gloop 5 Posted April 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Lots of interesting comments, and most mainly on topic. I am off to see the nice man in the shop tomorrow to have a look at what he has for sale. Plenty of things to think of. Mind you I am quite old school in that I like to walk the land rather than drive across it. But I am always open to changing my opinion as I get more land and need to cover greater distances to keep the bunnies down. I am not keen on hitting foxes with either a .17 or .22. I will leave that for larger calibre. Again only a personal opinion. Now what about larger caliber and NV.......... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Quote Link to post
jamie g 17 Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Don't worry about these apparent down sides of the HMR too noisy not a problem i have shot 3 rabbits within 10 yards of each other before the others ran It may be expensive but you rarely miss as mine is point and shoot on rabbits heads from 30-150 yards so no worry about hold over. As for its not as good as the .22 in a 4x4 where is the logic there mine is a 16inch barrel with a sak on the end and is fine within the the cab of the pick up. And its biggest plus side is (for me anyway) you dont have to worry about the ricochet as much. It is a highly subjective thing and both have there place. George the logic is mate most rabbits are shot up to ish yards under the lamp when in the 4x4. this in turn makes the 22lr a better choice. why pay up to 15 pound a box for hmr ammo to kill rabbits at yards away at most. when a 22lr at 4 pound a box will do the job cheaper and more silent. Quote Link to post
archiekale 427 Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 (edited) got both the anschutz 22lr thumb hole stock schmidt x bender 6x 42 anschutz 17 hmr thumb hole stock schmidt x bender 8 x 56 the 22lr shot hundreds of rabbits from 4x4 out to 75yards 98 in three hours on a dairy farm the 17hmr is for use on long distance when we cannot drive the land would not swap either gun both have there job especially long distance crows Edited April 9, 2010 by archiekale Quote Link to post
elvolcan 0 Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 I can't understand why people buy gun's then moan about the cost of shooting them ,if you can't afford it do some knitting or some thing else. lol, thats a good one Quote Link to post
Gloop 5 Posted April 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I can't understand why people buy gun's then moan about the cost of shooting them ,if you can't afford it do some knitting or some thing else. lol, thats a good one Obviously not checked out the price of wool lately and as for needles, well you just can't get the quality. Quote Link to post
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