Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 what was a great celtic working hound our own type of hound for our own country is about to be lost That makes me just as sad as it does yall if you wanna know the truth. Thats the part I cant stand. Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 NOW THEN .............. DAN , OF COURSE I HAVENT GOT A CLUE ABOUT HOW GOOD THE GENERAL WORKING ABILITYS OF THE YANK STAGHOUNDS ARE ...... HOW COULD I ? , THEN AGAIN NIETHER CAN YOU KNOW OF OUR DEERHOUND HYBRIDS ! ...... I think you might wanna go back and read through every single post I made on this thread and I want you to point out to me where I said that I know anything of your deerhound hybrids. It dont take a f****n rocket scientist to see though that them KC pencil necked shit eaters dont have the power to kill anything other than maybe a bunny or a jackrabbit, if they could catch a "hare" though would be the question I'd ask. I know my dogs aint jackrabbit or hare dogs, never even pretended that they were cause I dont do that shit. Like I said, go back and point out to me where I said I knew anything about your deerhound hybrids. I was merely tryin to state and show that there is no way in hell what I'm feeding has much to do with them f1 deer/greys. Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Another picture just tryin to point out that a staghound or our field type greyhounds are not f1 deerhound crosses, not today's deerhound anyhow but rather a deerhound from 100 years ago. The ones that I admire so much. The ones that were worthy of admiration. The ones that I have searched all over the internet and have a bunch of pics of saved on my computer because I think they were the best sighthounds ever born. With his neck stretched out as far as it gets, its still big around as your thigh. Quote Link to post
DUCKWING 302 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 NOW THEN .............. DAN , OF COURSE I HAVENT GOT A CLUE ABOUT HOW GOOD THE GENERAL WORKING ABILITYS OF THE YANK STAGHOUNDS ARE ...... HOW COULD I ? , THEN AGAIN NIETHER CAN YOU KNOW OF OUR DEERHOUND HYBRIDS ! ...... I think you might wanna go back and read through every single post I made on this thread and I want you to point out to me where I said that I know anything of your deerhound hybrids. It dont take a f****n rocket scientist to see though that them KC pencil necked shit eaters dont have the power to kill anything other than maybe a bunny or a jackrabbit, if they could catch a "hare" though would be the question I'd ask. I know my dogs aint jackrabbit or hare dogs, never even pretended that they were cause I dont do that shit. Like I said, go back and point out to me where I said I knew anything about your deerhound hybrids. I was merely tryin to state and show that there is no way in hell what I'm feeding has much to do with them f1 deer/greys. DAN I AGREE WITH YOU , ........ HOWEVER ......... WHERE YOU WILL NOT GET JAILTIME FOR POSTING PICTURES AS YOU HAVE .............. IT JUST AINT THE SAME FOR US OVER HERE I WOULD CONSIDER IT NIAEVE TO THINK THAT MEN STILL ONLY TAKE RABBITS HERE................. WITH THEIR DEERHOUND Xs THE SHOW WORLD HAS BEEN THE RUINATION OF EVERYTHING THEY TOUCH ........ THE DEERHOUNDS NO EXCEPTION ....... BUT AS I SAID ........ NOT ALL DEERHOUND MEN OVER HERE PUT THE SHOW RING FIRST IN THE BREEDING STAKES ALL THE BEST DUCKWING Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 NOW THEN .............. DAN , OF COURSE I HAVENT GOT A CLUE ABOUT HOW GOOD THE GENERAL WORKING ABILITYS OF THE YANK STAGHOUNDS ARE ...... HOW COULD I ? , THEN AGAIN NIETHER CAN YOU KNOW OF OUR DEERHOUND HYBRIDS ! ...... I think you might wanna go back and read through every single post I made on this thread and I want you to point out to me where I said that I know anything of your deerhound hybrids. It dont take a f****n rocket scientist to see though that them KC pencil necked shit eaters dont have the power to kill anything other than maybe a bunny or a jackrabbit, if they could catch a "hare" though would be the question I'd ask. I know my dogs aint jackrabbit or hare dogs, never even pretended that they were cause I dont do that shit. Like I said, go back and point out to me where I said I knew anything about your deerhound hybrids. I was merely tryin to state and show that there is no way in hell what I'm feeding has much to do with them f1 deer/greys. DAN I AGREE WITH YOU , ........ HOWEVER ......... WHERE YOU WILL NOT GET JAILTIME FOR POSTING PICTURES AS YOU HAVE .............. IT JUST AINT THE SAME FOR US OVER HERE I WOULD CONSIDER IT NIAEVE TO THINK THAT MEN STILL ONLY TAKE RABBITS HERE................. WITH THEIR DEERHOUND Xs THE SHOW WORLD HAS BEEN THE RUINATION OF EVERYTHING THEY TOUCH ........ THE DEERHOUNDS NO EXCEPTION ....... BUT AS I SAID ........ NOT ALL DEERHOUND MEN OVER HERE PUT THE SHOW RING FIRST IN THE BREEDING STAKES ALL THE BEST DUCKWING Good to go, just wanted to let you know where I stand, partner. I am a huge fan of the Deerhound but not the modern day show one. We have them over here too. There is a lady that owns them not 10 miles from my house. She actually tried to compare them shit eaters to a good coyote dog the other day when we were in the parkin lot of a farm supply store. I couldnt help but chuckle inside but I didnt want to hurt her feelings. Hell, I know some goofy sumbitches over here that try and recreate the wheel by breeding some of them f1 crosses with absolutely horrible results in the litters. Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 This is where the modern day coyote dogs came from, not from breeding a track greyhound to a show deerhound. Quote Link to post
Flamin'Nora! 50 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 dont forget he also likes to use 2 different sires to double the chances of getting good pups with wind feet stamina for the big stubbels and the beasties Quote Link to post
turnout 7 Posted April 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 got to say the pics dan has put up look more like the dog i would have not seen many over here of that build im not lookin for strong dog though ive got that with my usual an theyve got accel to catch on small fields that i run was jus after a different breed to have some sport with definatly got me thinkin an very interestin in what youve all said be curious to see what happens with whin think the youth with the pup may end up in the shit though that is to young to judge a dog tomo nailed it sounds like a knoledgeable chap hope im wrong about the pup atb Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 just back from takeing dogs out and doing abit work , you have to remeber inever slag dogs if they are good , and treid and tested , and there are some nice dogs there on the comp but for what ive saw the staghounds that are bred over by are alot handier than the ones ive saw at shows or knocking about , i mean what has apure scotish deerhound got to offer genuine hunting guys nowadays ,ive saw the d platt dogs and there as near to the staghound ive saw ,strong built to last and capable looking dogs ,its good thats youse byte back about the scottish deerhound etc as well they are scottish and once were proper hunting dogs in there pure state ,i dont like to use to diffrent normaly flamin ones enough usaly,just when i see all these show deerhounds etc and some at the odd dog show i think , there nothing like the dogs we had in the eighties maybe im wrong saying the good deeerhound types have had there day , the only deerhound types ive saw tha i count as real good has been the ones over in the states , stag hounds coyote hounds there as near as dammit what an old fashioned deerhoud type looked like one that could work the heatther and pull his qaurry down ,i dont no any keen coursing men nowadays or hunting guys who keep the deerhounds that i saw 2o plus years ago im maybe wrong but not saw many ,all got saluk cross through them collie terreir , wha does a pure derrhound give agood working lurcher nowadays , compared to the line bred sal;uk lurchers or collie type lurchers, enilghtenme as its years since i had one , the ones we had were decent tho but quite strong and not lanky and swan knecked , Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 dan read a good book called canine and coyotes intresting read and the mans standard in 19 41 ,would be a good dog mans standard now ,shame our SCOTTISH deerhound has not went forward like the coyote hounds all the best Quote Link to post
DEERMAN 1,020 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 just back from takeing dogs out and doing abit work , you have to remeber inever slag dogs if they are good , and treid and tested , and there are some nice dogs there on the comp but for what ive saw the staghounds that are bred over by are alot handier than the ones ive saw at shows or knocking about , i mean what has apure scotish deerhound got to offer genuine hunting guys nowadays ,ive saw the d platt dogs and there as near to the staghound ive saw ,strong built to last and capable looking dogs ,its good thats youse byte back about the scottish deerhound etc as well they are scottish and once were proper hunting dogs in there pure state ,i dont like to use to diffrent normaly flamin ones enough usaly,just when i see all these show deerhounds etc and some at the odd dog show i think , there nothing like the dogs we had in the eighties maybe im wrong saying the good deeerhound types have had there day , the only deerhound types ive saw tha i count as real good has been the ones over in the states , stag hounds coyote hounds there as near as dammit what an old fashioned deerhoud type looked like one that could work the heatther and pull his qaurry down ,i dont no any keen coursing men nowadays or hunting guys who keep the deerhounds that i saw 2o plus years ago im maybe wrong but not saw many ,all got saluk cross through them collie terreir , wha does a pure derrhound give agood working lurcher nowadays , compared to the line bred sal;uk lurchers or collie type lurchers, enilghtenme as its years since i had one , the ones we had were decent tho but quite strong and not lanky and swan knecked , classic whin Quote Link to post
kevin kiely 66 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 ille not waste his time mate but along way to travel for not much sport im no bully just call a spade a spade, hope you keep on to the good deerhound cross im looking forward to see it run,ille tell you what bring the deerhound up to godscountry if it lasts with my own dogs ille pay youre petrol mate no prob , I will take up that challange WHIN and im not far away from you ...I will bring with me a 4 year old 3/8 deerhound x that I know wont let me down and will handle anything you put in front of him anything that your dogs will and maybe a bit more ...wee will see ....Im not interested in petrol money but just want to proove you are not the be all and end all in gods country ...we will get this sorted at the back end when the fields are cut and theres no young about .... thats the spirit!fairplay. Quote Link to post
jigsaw 11,866 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 just looking at this and I wont comment too much on the topic as I have minimal experience with deerhound crosses but heres one dog that would have died(and did) for the oppertunity to take whatever was put in front of him,I saw him run on a few occasions over a season or two.He was absolutely nuts and was bred by Shanehound on here but was owned by another member.He took deer ,fox,and hare in vast numbers and a fair share of rabbit even though he was a very large dog.He anialated fox,the more punishment he got the more he drove on.He was an awesome dog and 100%guaranteed he would never jack.He died unfortunately last season and is a huge loss to my mates breeding plans. heres a pic of his sister,another fox slayer and very effiecient rabbit dog even though shes 28 inches to the shoulder.She hasnt had deer as theres none where shes stationed but I would expect shed take them without a problem if asked to. There are some very good deerhounds about but not in vast numbers as of yet.I know one deerhound dog was shiped to the usa by an enthusiast I know and fared very well on coyote from last we heard.I really enjoyed this topic and look forward to it continuing. Quote Link to post
asha 48 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 just got back in.whin get a grip u big heed.folk will work there dog easy or harder than u so what.my two dhgh take all quarrey pre ban single handed aswell.bitch 3 out of 3 when pups 4 week old.right excercise food and road walking wouldnt say she was up to ur standards but. Quote Link to post
miles 227 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Here is a pic of a great staghound. Do you really think we got this type of dog by crossing it to a modern day type deerhound? No mate, I think you got great dogs like that by breeding the best to the best ! Just as some of us in the UK try the same !! But then again, we haven't the quarry here that you have over there; we just wish we had !! Cheers. I know you know the game but just wanted to illustrate for some that read too much bullshit off this net. We didnt breed them pencil necked shit eatin deerhounds to a greyhound to produce these coyote dogs. They bred coyote dog to coyote dog to do so. Like I said, I know you knew but had to just say it cause i here this garbage way too much. Dan, I didn't want to get into an "I did this...You did that" match, 'cause you would win !! I've ran dogs all over the world, and hunted stuff most people in the UK haven't. I don't know for sure what dogs are in your "Staghounds", but I'll bet my butt they are Greyhound/Deerhound and some local breeds, (long way back!!). I've only ran dogs down Texas way, with good lads, not sure where youre from in the States, but, BY GOD, I'd LOVE to have a day out with you and your dogs !!! cHEERS. [/quot If the grammar and spelling were worse ..............it could be Whin Miles, it not like you to attack people ! If you are jelouse of where I've been or what I've done with dogs, please let us know what your problem is ?? Cheers. Keep yer hair on C.P.........not an attack.............just a small attempt at humour Though i CAN see how being compared to Whine would really upset someone Quote Link to post
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