Meerihunter 7 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 I have my first ever saluki and was expecting more of a challenge from her but I must admit I didnt really do anything with her but bring her out in the field and things just fell into place over a period of months.I also have the kelpie X and compared to her she was not in the same planet at all,I copped on after a bit she looked on things quiet differently and just learnt for herself.After having her out and about I really enjoyed her drive and determaination and hope in the future to have another.All she ever wants every now and again is a kind word and a good gallop after a very fast prey in front of her and shes happy Like I said simple. Quote Link to post
Guest AngelicAcid Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 i am hoping to have both dogs trained to good field commands. and before anyone says it i have p progress and l field craft. Quote Link to post
riohog 5,823 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Ive just ordered the Dog listener for 1p so hope its worth it. Im also training a beddy grey, and they are 2 different kettles of fish. The beddy been eager to please, the salukiX been much more laid back. Interestingly I find my Salukis far more eager to please me, I just don't seem hold the same importance to the beddies as I do to the Saluki at least once outside that is, the beddies are just not interested in pleasing me they have their own agenda where as I am quite literally my Salukis world. im reading what your saying mark ,not arguing just disscusing ,trying to play devils advocate but its not easy ,i know your very passionate about the saluki as am i ,and trying to be honest ,you ,i and others , tend to look and take more notice ,of certain traits ,some which my be termed as unique to saluki although im not sure ,as most of us have been type cast with the lets say ...western version..is it verging on obsession ?!!sometimes question that !!....think it may be !! Quote Link to post
Guest AngelicAcid Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 There is something about the saluki that gets me (in a good way.) like knowing you have something in your possesion, if thats right. I dont favour any over any type. Just something about them. Quote Link to post
arcticgun 4,548 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 As you know Acid I work both and also have saluki lurcher, the beddy works for me and the saluki works with me, would be the simplest way of putting it, the saluki x is somewhere in between. To be honest the saluki is the far more intelligent hunter, and also far more robust and less injury prone, recovers quickers etc. The 1p you spent is the best 1p you will ever spend mate, if not I will personally refund you atvb Richard Quote Link to post
Flamin'Nora! 50 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 the dave slight dvd is geared more to collie crosses mate but still a good watch if its your 1st time training a dog Quote Link to post
Calli 93 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Think about form and function. The origins of the saluki says it all. Remember why they exist - how they were bred? They ain't gonna be biddable. Bred to work remote with their pack - at a distance from the boss as it were - several miles away. Quote Link to post
riohog 5,823 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Think about form and function. The origins of the saluki says it all. Remember why they exist - how they were bred? They ain't gonna be biddable. Bred to work remote with their pack - at a distance from the boss as it were - several miles away. origional function for the beduin ........hunter ,guard,companion !! Quote Link to post
Calli 93 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Touche!! See article in next months Irish Country Sports Magazine..... Quote Link to post
arcticgun 4,548 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 This might seem lazy and i will probaly get a fair amount of stick for saying it but Im happy with good solid recall, I want and need a hunter, that can think and operate independantly or in conjunction with my other dogs, it also has to be sound running a wide variety of terrain. Sit Stay lay down, moonwalk etc are not of any use to me in the field, nor do they appear to be of any consequnce to the saluki either lol, they do however sit and occaisionaly stay to command and i dare say now the bond is formed and they are maturing I could teach them to a decent satndard, unfortunately myself and the dogs prefer to go out hunting instead. It boils my piss when people say saluki are thick and hard to train cos they don't respond to a quick slap etc, to be honest how can a dog be considered clever because it learns right from wrong via a slap or being yelled at? is it clever to stay around people who slap you? me personaly think it shows more nouse putting a few miles between yourself and the person who belted you. What needs to be considered carefully is that dogs are not humans, the commands we seek to teach them simply mean nothing to the dog concerned they only understand the 'Pack', when we lose control all they see is a pack leader who is not strong enough to lead them, so they simply take over as pack nature dictates. Saluki being more 'primative' than other westernised breeds imho simply need less guidance than typicl breeds or crosses, saluki is born to hunt, course and catch quarry and has done so for centuries with great sucess, to the point it is still one of the most physically sound pure breeds ever. Let them get on with it after introducing recall, you might as well learn there ways cos they don't really need to learn much from you. Work on forming a true bond with your saluki, and in time when he decides to submit to your steady firm leadership he will do anything you ask of him and more. This is only my opinion, from what i have learned and there is so much more that I need and desire to learn, but it has worked for me, my days of looking into the distance as my saluki disappears, murder brewing in my mind followed by worry and eventually complete dispair are well and truly over, now i just simply enjoy working along with my saluki and other dogs, this way we are all happy and my blood pressure is spot on. Quote Link to post
riohog 5,823 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 yeah ill go along with that richard ,i adopt the same aproach ,go with the flow , dont need it to perform circus tricks ,,,,if it comes back wich it does ,thats the main thing ,preferably with some fur in its mouth all the rest is well a bonus Quote Link to post
L8SPORTS 19 Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 very good read up to now lads, carry on Quote Link to post
hairybull 3 Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 Im not sure exactly how much sal my black bitch has in her but does show alot of traits not seen in my other dogs. I found the training came on quicker and easier once mature. She also has the ability of making large tracts of land (1000's acres) seem quite small Quote Link to post
Hannah4181 260 Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 A good read this thread. I don't have any specific knowledge of Salukis as a breed, but i honestly believe "most" breeds or x breeds of dog will live a far happier and content partnership with their owners if the basic outlines of pack leadership are followed . . . . . coupled with a good diet and mental and physical stimulation. Quote Link to post
stroller 341 Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 ilike a lot of obedience in the field and i find it stands me in good stead as im not particularly young or in great physical health at the moment. and of course i do a lot of ferreting which is not the true game of the saluki, but still the big dog we have has learned well enough he doesnt retrieve but re call and stay is good and all he wants in return is a lot of affection and his dinner. Quote Link to post
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