the_stig 6,614 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 if your researching now for a couple of years prices could go up or down .. plummer terriers could hit a grand in 2 years fireman not 20 yr ago the plummer whr all short legged same markings -- when and where did the leg come from ? .. wuyang are your jrs bitchs ? why not embark on a breeding program with a bit of research and thought you`ll get what your looking for and its a lot more fun than trying to buy a ready made .. Quote Link to post
BlackBuckOne 1 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 plummer terriers could hit a grand in 2 years Just seems like an excuse to make money if you ask me, on a dog which is no better than the older established breeds. There have been similar dogs to them for years....... They were called Cross-Bred Terriers and they used to be given away for nought. Now they've suddenly become fancy-dans and people charge big bucks because they have a registry and so-called lines. No thanks, I wouldn't pay Two Bob for one. Quote Link to post
BlackBuckOne 1 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 What i said mate is out of the ones i've seen bushing/mooching or ratting then the plummers have scented the quarry better than the russells and the plummers have seemed to pack together better.If thats a load of crap then please let us swop eyes as mine seem to lie to me . Nothing wrong with this lot and they had no problem finding this vixen dozing in the rushes. Perhaps you need to go out with some better Russell's next time..... Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Beats me how the self proclaimed superb ratting ,bushing dog needs to evolve at all .Progression stage ,only a plummer owner would come up with that shit especially if his her pups wernt fetching top dollar.The only progress you lads need is to forget the money and think about the work side of things . Quote Link to post
dave a 24 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 any of these plummers ever made the grade as a reliable digging dog season after season?not hunting bunnys but proper terrier work.don't want to be wronging anybody but the limited amount i've seen i wouldn't want to own. Quote Link to post
terrier410 53 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 seems everybody's dogs are better than everybody else's alway's been that way always will be over the years i've had an assortment of terriers for ferreting and cubbing back in the day nothing over £30 that i can remember and everyone was better than your dogs at everything(in my mind anyway) :tongue2: as for leg size for bushing depends on the heart of the dog i hunt beagles now and they push through anything a small legged terrier can (i think they have rhino in their lines somewhere) Quote Link to post
terrier410 53 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 in agreement with most of the lads on here get yerself a cheap terrier and YOU!! turn it into the perfect terrier you want. paying stupid money will never guarentee you anything. Quote Link to post
fish 148 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 in agreement with most of the lads on here get yerself a cheap terrier and YOU!! turn it into the perfect terrier you want. paying stupid money will never guarentee you anything. your dead right there bud Quote Link to post
fireman 10,860 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Fox dropper i was taking the p*ss with the "progression stage" bit and as for selling plummer pups i never have made a penny out of the only litter i've bred and never will IF i ever breed her again and to answer another question yes there are a few plummers out there regularly working to ground and my bitch was bred from such dogs and she herself works to ground.Not saying or ever would any one type of terrier is better than another,duffers in all types all i'm saying is plummers take some beating at bushing/mooching as they in general very good noses,i'll also add my plummers are for ratting,mooching and ferreting with my russells are for digging with,horses for courses as they say . Quote Link to post
the_stig 6,614 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 plummers started the progresive stage when thr was talk of kc reg .. Quote Link to post
rob.i 26 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Why not try a leggy russell Quote Link to post
wuyang 513 Posted April 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Both my jacks are bitches and both are spayed, i'm not bothered about breeding, there's enough pups on the market as it is......except cheap plummers. I think i would take on a rescue or free to good home next time. End of the day i just rabbit with my terriers and its not exactly hard to teach one to bush. I was just considering a plummer due to mostly using them for ratting/rabbits. I'm still wondering why long legged is better for bushing....anybody?, and what height to the shoulder do you class as long legged? Wuyang Quote Link to post
wirral countryman 2,110 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 What i said mate is out of the ones i've seen bushing/mooching or ratting then the plummers have scented the quarry better than the russells and the plummers have seemed to pack together better.If thats a load of crap then please let us swop eyes as mine seem to lie to me . Nothing wrong with this lot and they had no problem finding this vixen dozing in the rushes. Perhaps you need to go out with some better Russell's next time..... I love the dogs blackbuckone,there is no difference between both in working ability,I've kept both for 35yrs and had good and bad in both breeds,a cross between the two is very good,as for plummer's being a pack dog fireman I've kept a lot down the years and most are possessive over what they catch,I have a 7yr old dog now that has to work on his own with my lurcher's because of the fighting,he would if left fight to the death,he is only 12inch and 13pounds in wieght but is as hard as any patterdale I've owned,a lot of plummer owner's seem to have this problem,all good dogs regardless of the type always have a good nose,they also need plenty of work to get the best out of them,the only difference is the cost of a pup,atb,wirralman Quote Link to post
BlackBuckOne 1 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 (edited) all good dogs regardless of the type always have a good nose,they also need plenty of work to get the best out of them,the only difference is the cost of a pup,atb,wirralman Couldn't agree more. Thanks for the comments on the dogs, I used to really enjoy taking the terriers out in a pack like the above pics, it was great fun to see them all working together. I should add it was a few years ago now though when it was legal to do such things. I never push mine into anything and let them work at their own pace as they mature. I encourage them of course but once they start to work it will all come naturally if they are going to do it for you. As you say, the more they do the better they get, as with anything. However, some don't though, not every dog has earthwork in them even if they cost you top bucks and come from the best working stock. As a responsible owner it is up to you to know your dogs limits and what it is capable of, or not. Cheers Edited April 4, 2010 by BlackBuckOne Quote Link to post
Alli 923 Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 Hi all.......... I currently own two JRT which i use for bushing when rabbiting, i think they cost me about £150 each. In a few years to come i may be looking to add another to my team. I was thinking along the lines of a plummer terrier...like i say just for hunting rabbits. I don't want a terrier thats rock hard and going to ground at every opportunity.I have had a brief look on the net and all the sites seem to keep stuck about their prices, so i was wondering whats the going price at the moment for a plummer bitch? And what height do they generally level to because some i have seen look quite leggy? Thanks, wuyang Quote Link to post
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