ian 1 36 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 let me tell you some thing a fallow deer will cause more damage to a dog than any fox alive ,[FACT] fallow deer are very fast ,but dont put up much of a fight ,but if a dog was to take a kick off of one it would do some damage . where a sika will fight and fight till they got nothing left ,they are more of a test for a dog you must be talking of sika red hybreds, as a pure sika stag even in the rut is no match for a dog,the reds are the daddys but the fallow bucks are far better then any sika. pure sika stags no match for a dog, what planet you on Quote Link to post
Guest fence_hopper Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 nothing worse than a dog arse dragging, single for me Quote Link to post
ian 1 36 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 let me tell you some thing a fallow deer will cause more damage to a dog than any fox alive ,[FACT] fallow deer are very fast ,but dont put up much of a fight ,but if a dog was to take a kick off of one it would do some damage . where a sika will fight and fight till they got nothing left ,they are more of a test for a dog you must be talking of sika red hybreds, as a pure sika stag even in the rut is no match for a dog,the reds are the daddys but the fallow bucks are far better then any sika. pure sika stags no match for a dog, what planet you on the same planet as you ,i been to your ground with leec,sika are puppy fodder,and no match for a dog.in fact i have never seen any dog miss a sika that we have run on that ground,and the 3 times i been there we counted for 8 sika 3 stags 5 hinds. there are alot here ,but there are some very good stags that will take some doing ,ive seen them kick 3 dogs off or run on with them like they were nothing ,ive had them ram into motors. give a pm and i will take you and show you some nice big ones Quote Link to post
derry boy 2 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 When i was working the dog, the ground we had to use was pretty small so hunting with my friend and having two young dogs we would double up at any time. The way I saw it we may only get one or two runs at the charlie on any given night so best to try both dogs. On days when we were beating bush and getting some good results with the beagles there may have been up to 5/6 dogs with various experience. I do agree that a dog should be taking charlie on its own at a certain age but all dogs differ. I mean my young grey/collie/wheaten x was crap on his first couple of reds but then he was doubled up with an experienced dog and never looked back after that. Most lads I know would have never give the dog a second chance. If the dog is not taking the hunted quarry straight away on it's own then more time with experienced dogs/training is the best way forward. ATB Derry Boy Quote Link to post
whippet 99 2,613 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 roes are the hardest deer , especially when frozen in the freezer, what happened to the single handed thread Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Sorry to ask a stupid thing, but i gather then if a dog has taken more than its fare share of foxs single handed,but then its OWNER decides to run it doubled up for what ever reason,including PEST CONTROL. it is no longer a single handed dog. .Funny old game this VIRTUAL HUNTING. Typical thl,every one on here being the big hot shot but not one of them will answer a simple question,Just writing what everyone else writes,or writing what the books tell you . Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 any dog which take a fox single handed is a single handed dog regardless if it takes fox with 1,2,3 or a mighty fecking pack of other dogs beside it atleast it is/was to me Yes same here ,Just dont get why if 2 dogs run together it makes them some how less of a dog,funny thing only ever heard it on here. Quote Link to post
stormrider8 59 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 You cant beet the singlehanded dogs in my opinion but you will catch alot more doubled up!! This one ones a true solo bitch 8 years old and never jibbed once!! Quote Link to post
Cleanspade 3,322 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 a single handed dog to me is one that is reared and entered and is worked alone. a single dog generally seen worked by an owner who keeps his own company. his dog must enter single handed and then carry on throughout its career. the only help this dog will get will be from its owner. these dogs dont get bummed up much becouse no one ever see's em work apart from there owner Quote Link to post
Wallis46 0 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 my 3/4 bull grey reverse if you like being 3/4 bull makes seriously short work of charlies single handed but im new to this and i assumed all dogs would Shes not that fast but i love her only problem is i cant take her out in daylight cos she courses and kills owt in front of her including other dogs. I Know i should sort it but i dont know how an shes not gettin put down, no way. Mates Saluki/Deer jumped on a roe buck and took it down my dog had it done in seconds when it caught up i could call her single handed on deer but it means nothing if she aint fast enough. I need a proper dog soon...... Atb Wallis Quote Link to post
taz2010 1,297 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 a lot on here think people doubled up cause there dogs could'nt manage on there own,most people did it cause they caught more not that they could'nt sort the job on there own,the big bags would'nt of been done ran single handed especially running off the back of the van where the dog sometimes had to travel 2/3 hundred yards to get to the fox.when it was legal i had single handed dogs that when i went for numbers i ran doubled up cause i caught more in a night,but saying that the dogs were always tested plenty single other times or they would'nt of been in my kennel! Cracking reply ive ran dogs 20 years now and had plenty and still have single handed dogs' but if im on a good night out id double up firstly both dogs keeping fit getting a run secondly greater chance of a catch and thirdly my single handed dogs dont have to prove nothing i know they do the job themselves Quote Link to post
kevin kiely 66 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 a lot on here think people doubled up cause there dogs could'nt manage on there own,most people did it cause they caught more not that they could'nt sort the job on there own,the big bags would'nt of been done ran single handed especially running off the back of the van where the dog sometimes had to travel 2/3 hundred yards to get to the fox.when it was legal i had single handed dogs that when i went for numbers i ran doubled up cause i caught more in a night,but saying that the dogs were always tested plenty single other times or they would'nt of been in my kennel! Cracking reply ive ran dogs 20 years now and had plenty and still have single handed dogs' but if im on a good night out id double up firstly both dogs keeping fit getting a run secondly greater chance of a catch and thirdly my single handed dogs dont have to prove nothing i know they do the job themselves single handed means catch and kill on its own,nothing more nothing less.the dog should be fast enough to catch it without the need of another dog turning charlie into it and able to sispatch without nonsense Quote Link to post
dave a 24 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 the only time i'd ever run a pair is for a young dogs first fox or two.from then on its single handed for the rest of its working life and if the dog isn't up to that then its good luck.i'd much rather keep one excellent dog than three average ones. Quote Link to post
jack crowley 5 Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 the only time i'd ever run a pair is for a young dogs first fox or two.from then on its single handed for the rest of its working life and if the dog isn't up to that then its good luck.i'd much rather keep one excellent dog than three average ones. to true Quote Link to post
dave mac 58 Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 the only time i'd ever run a pair is for a young dogs first fox or two.from then on its single handed for the rest of its working life and if the dog isn't up to that then its good luck.i'd much rather keep one excellent dog than three average ones. i agree with most of your post dave,but i wouldnt run 2 as one may get the sharp end and you dont want it to be the young un, agood fox dog is a good fox dog right from the start,i think its best to hold a dog back abit untill you no it can hold its own, Quote Link to post
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