Urban Fox Control London 8 Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Found this, may be of interest. http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_8580000/newsid_8589900/8589968.stm Quote Link to post
Urban Fox Control London 8 Posted March 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Thats right "They need help because they were abandoned by their mums, but when they are old enough they will be released back into the wild". Quote Link to post
watchman 256 Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 got all five right on their quiz lol Quote Link to post
dogs-n-natives 1,182 Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 numpties Quote Link to post
fish 148 Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Thats right "They need help because they were abandoned by their mums, but when they are old enough they will be released back into the wild". and so they should por little things Quote Link to post
Urban Fox Control London 8 Posted March 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Well done Watchman, you are top of the class and can now go home. Quote Link to post
Guest digthemdeeper Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 jesus that is a sight to be hold.... Quote Link to post
Flamin'Nora! 50 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 hope she washes her hands between toileting them cubs and doing the customers hair Quote Link to post
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I bet she lives on her own ............ Stupid woman, and that fella from the rescue looks like he knows where all the kids playgrounds are too ..................... Quote Link to post
comanche 3,076 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I heard this report on my local radio station. Apparently one of the cubs was found on a driveway ,still wet and with a bleeding umbilicus -real new-born . Would have taken a hard-hearted house-holder not to have treated it as a cute little bundle of fluff in need of help . So what is the animal rescue man to do? He obviously is'nt going to be disposed to saying, "Yes madame we'll look after it ",but in reality take it round the back of the van and knock it on the head lest it become a case of "from nits lice do grow". When I worked on a local estate we used to shoot quite a few bemused foxes that seemed to appear from nowhere and have no idea of the realities of country-life . It could never be proved but the suspicion was always that they were being released by someone. A school friend reared a cub.Took it to school where it bit the biology teacher . Eventually it became quite savage and went off to be released. I dare say it lasted but a short time in the wild and I'd guess that will be the fate of the little chaps in the hairdressing salon . Still they are cute little things and fair play to the lady for putting in the work but they'd be better off going to a wild-life centre or zoo than being rehabilitated into the wild . Reared without a wise old vixen to teach them the ropes and made a little too confident about humans -as Edward would have said , "Don't worry Tubs. They won't get far !" Quote Link to post
arnieboy 93 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 thought realiseing vermin was illegal? Quote Link to post
Urban Fox Control London 8 Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 So did I. Shame nobody enforces it. There are enough CCTV around to catch fly-tippers. Its pretty much the same thing releasing 'hand-reared' or relocated 'urban foxes'. The Wildlife & Countryside Act 1981 & The Animal Welfare Act 2006. As with most laws in this county, they don't mean the paper they were written on. Quote Link to post
Urban Fox Control London 8 Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 When I worked on a local estate we used to shoot quite a few bemused foxes that seemed to appear from nowhere and have no idea of the realities of country-life . It could never be proved but the suspicion was always that they were being released by someone. Reared without a wise old vixen to teach them the ropes and made a little too confident about humans -as Edward would have said , "Don't worry Tubs. They won't get far !" This goes on alot due to Pest Control Companies advertising a "Trap & Relocation" service due to the main fact they can't get hold of a firearm or .410. Quote Link to post
comanche 3,076 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 When I worked on a local estate we used to shoot quite a few bemused foxes that seemed to appear from nowhere and have no idea of the realities of country-life . It could never be proved but the suspicion was always that they were being released by someone. Reared without a wise old vixen to teach them the ropes and made a little too confident about humans -as Edward would have said , "Don't worry Tubs. They won't get far !" This goes on alot due to Pest Control Companies advertising a "Trap & Relocation" service due to the main fact they can't get hold of a firearm or .410. A customer once told me of the time he came across a chap at the end of his drive releasing a fox from the back of a transit van.Can't help feeling that the transit driver had'nt just picked the site at random .The customer certainly was'nt too chuffed about it as he was the owner of a free-range chicken farm! Probably a bit of a grey area -releasing foxes that is .Foxes are native and not on the list of invasive animals and plants that cannot be released into the wild. Certainly the cruelty laws and abandonment of animals act come into the play if it can be proved that suffering is likely to result from the release . It is illegal to release anything onto land that may cause damage to the owner of that lands interests and that might as near as it gets to being an offence. Quote Link to post
Urban Fox Control London 8 Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 (edited) The simple reason I do not release the urban foxes I trap is mainly due to 99% of them showing signs of sarcopic mange. Some worse than others. Alot of them look very sick and unhealthy. If they are released, they can easily pass mange on to other 'healthy foxes' and make their life a living hell too. As most of you know, sarcopic mange is a terrible disease and the foxes simply scratch themselves to death, infect wounds due to incessant scratching and as a result get blood poisoning. Urban foxes that are used to scavenging around bins etc. won't find much food if dumped in the middle of the countryside. That's not looking after the welfare of the fox. A dumped urban fox would just be a sitting targets for riflemen, farmers or other healthly foxes in that particular area if they haven't yet starved themselves to death because they are alien to the area they have been released in and do not know there to source food. Thats why its more humane to put them to sleep. A released fox would be so hungry it would attack anything to survive such as killing young lambs, chicken, pheasants and other possibly endangered wildlife; though it may just crawl into a hole and die through the shock and trauma it has endured to get to where it has been dumped. Being a responsible pest controller is what it boils down to. Money also plays a big part in it all to. Some companies advertise a 'release service' to ease the conscious of their client and put them in a better light; but in reality, the released fox will suffer further as could other animals. My clients are told from day 1 that any foxes caught will be humanely dispatched discreetly on site and the reasons why it would not be fair to them or other animals to release them elsewhere. Sticking a couple of foxes in the back of a van, driving 20 miles+ and dumping them can't be the humane option. When will these people learn Dumping foxes is not wildlife management nor is it animal welfare. Its money making. How could you dump a fox showing this and what would you do if you were a pest control company that caught a fox with bad mange and had no way of humanely dispatching it?:- Edited March 30, 2010 by Urban Fox Control London Quote Link to post
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