Lurcher Judges

[fudge294 0]

Hi all, has been nice to read numerous topics on the forum so here goes for my first topic, I have been given the job of organising judges for a couple of lurcher shows in the East Anglia area and would really like to encourage some new faces into the judging scene or even some old ones that haven't been seen for a while!

If you know of anyone or have a few years experience of lurcher ownership/work and would be confident in 'voicing' your opinion please be in contact and I'll reply off topic if poss. A lot of us enjoy going along to the shows for a bit of a social but some new judging faces would be great!

Cheers and happy hunting - after all that's what it's all about!

[cooper101 86]

ive never really umderstood how somone can judge dogs on apperance!! how do you come by your desisions????? theres so much variation in lurchers what is it that is looked for in theses rossette winners !! never entered show but have allways wanted to know the answer to this question!!

all the best Cooper

[Guest fence_hopper]

i persanoly think these WORKING shows are a load of bolloks with people taking there pets there and winning never seeing a days work in there life, its more like crufts these days the prittiest dog wins not the workers, good luck finding some judges

[DEERMAN 1,018]

[spot on

[fudge294 0]

Hi Thanks for your replies, as I say I'm a bit new to this forum thingy!

 

I'm not a judge but I do go along to some of the shows and would probably be seen as a 'pet' lurcher owner when at the shows - how do you tell? We go along with our young family, and although since the family has grown the amount of work the dogs do has decreased we have previously been actively involved in coursing clubs, and are still lamping, ferreting etc. just as a family now! Before you stop reading - Don't get me wrong - there are people out there that seem to wrap their dogs in cotton wool - some not even allowing their dogs off lead!!! take shows far too seriously and really have no idea, or any interest in what a lurcher can achieve or their real passion to be allowed to pursue quarry as long as they go home with a rosette ( a red one of course!)- but this is why I'd like some LURCHER PEOPLE to consider judging and for every one else to have a bit of fun.

 

As for what you can tell about a dog at a show - yup it does boil down to a bit of a beauty contest - what the judge likes and thinks the dog could do, from my experience you cannot tell a dogs working ability at a show but you can make a personal decision about its capabilities of doing the job it's designed for - what ever the quarry or the method that particular dog is designed for, perceived health, conformation and movement will naturally form part of the decision making progress.

 

Shows are not for everyone but many people enjoy showing their dogs off and meeting up with like minded friends - and just for the record red rosettes are few and far between in my experiences but my best ever coursing dog also excelled in the show, racing and anything else she was asked to do so you can never tell!

[samba 534]

i find it just a day out through the summer if you dont win

ya dont win

if your that into it get into kc showing its all a bit of fun

[Merv 0]

thats right chris,just a bit ov fun

[KAKA 10]

i like going along to show in the summer when a can it just a bit of funny and a day out

[killa-combo 142]

i persanoly think these WORKING shows are a load of bolloks with people taking there pets there and winning never seeing a days work in there life, its more like crufts these days the prittiest dog wins not the workers, good luck finding some judges

exactly pet owners take the credit, puts a pisser on your day when you see a dog win that not a worker

[Strong Stuff 2,171]

can i ask

 

when judging, what is it you look at

 

is it the closest to the perfect lurcher, conformation wise???

 

or is it, prettiest?? or the dog you would most like to own, you being the judge???

 

 

Tell you one thing mate, some of the dodgy shite you see at shows .............. I'd be picking the one that didn't bite me!

[inan 841]

Hi all, has been nice to read numerous topics on the forum so here goes for my first topic, I have been given the job of organising judges for a couple of lurcher shows in the East Anglia area and would really like to encourage some new faces into the judging scene or even some old ones that haven't been seen for a while!

If you know of anyone or have a few years experience of lurcher ownership/work and would be confident in 'voicing' your opinion please be in contact and I'll reply off topic if poss. A lot of us enjoy going along to the shows for a bit of a social but some new judging faces would be great!

Cheers and happy hunting - after all that's what it's all about!

Your user name ,rings a bell,did you used to go out with the ALOC club?

[inan 841]

i persanoly think these WORKING shows are a load of bolloks with people taking there pets there and winning never seeing a days work in there life, its more like crufts these days the prittiest dog wins not the workers, good luck finding some judges

How would you go about judging a dogs working ability when it is in the showring?

[inan 841]

i persanoly think these WORKING shows are a load of bolloks with people taking there pets there and winning never seeing a days work in there life, its more like crufts these days the prittiest dog wins not the workers, good luck finding some judges

exactly pet owners take the credit, puts a pisser on your day when you see a dog win that not a worker

I've never been able to assess a dogs working ability when it is a show ring

Can you share the secret with me?

Edited March 29, 2010 by inan

[inan 841]

i persanoly think these WORKING shows are a load of bolloks with people taking there pets there and winning never seeing a days work in there life, its more like crufts these days the prittiest dog wins not the workers, good luck finding some judges

exactly pet owners take the credit, puts a pisser on your day when you see a dog win that not a worker

I've never been able to assess a dogs working ability when it is a show ring

Can you share the secret with me?

good point there inan a dog should be judged in the field not a ring

Chalk Warren said it ,it's a beauty contest ,all a judge can do is select his preferences based on ,confirmation,condition,movement ,and temperament.And, if it is close between two candidates, that certain presence that some dogs have.

He is not there to assess working ability because he cannot,all he can do is pick out dogs, based on the criteria I have given, that look like they may be able to fulfill the job they were bred for. at the end of the day its one man, or woman's opinion .

Edited March 29, 2010 by inan

[boyo 1,398]

i have done quite a bit of judging over the last 30 odd years and as innan said ive never been able to tell a dogs working proess from looking at it or examining it .and something else in all those years i must have examined thousands of lurchers and all owners say their dog works whether this is true or not is not for me to decide because as the judge for the day all my job is is to pick the best dog in my opinion and i quote my opinion because at the end of the day thats all it is one persons opinion on the day. what i will say is all that glitters is not gold because what looks a stunner from outside the ring is not always what it seems once you have run your hands over it and /or examined it more closely things like over/undershot dirty teeth flat feet turned in elbows weak wrists fleas and other faults are not obvious when looking at the dogs from outside the ring . and remember judges give their time freely with only their fuel as payement and if its a club show or charity do dont even take their fuel most of the time . the last show i judged travelled about 3 hours each way and was way out of pocket but still enjoyed the day and thats what shows are supposed to be for a day out you meet old and new freinds and catch up and enjoy yourself. and so what if some show regiulars take it seriously and pamper their lurchers at least their well looked after which is the main thing .