Stamina bull/greyhound vs collie greyhound

[Guest digthemdeeper]

collie x for me ....

[wuyang 513]

Fitness is fitness whichever way you look at it... a 100% fit bullx will go all nite.. and put more determination in than any colliex will... colliex,s are well known for preserving energy by doing just enough to get the job done.. sadly doing just enough doesnt do it any favours on certain quarry... atb stabba

 

Fitness is fitness yes, but on the other hand a boxer in top physical condition won't be able to touch along distance runner on a off day..

[stabba 10,745]

Fitness is fitness whichever way you look at it... a 100% fit bullx will go all nite.. and put more determination in than any colliex will... colliex,s are well known for preserving energy by doing just enough to get the job done.. sadly doing just enough doesnt do it any favours on certain quarry... atb stabba

 

Fitness is fitness yes, but on the other hand a boxer in top physical condition won't be able to touch along distance runner on a off day..

But just maybe the long distance runner wont have the explosive sprint sometimes needed ... and how on earth do you get fit for a bout... running mate... and lots of it..

[steveS.Yorks 161]

Theres a lot better dogs than either collie or bull hybrids so who cares.

[hedz31 1,308]

Fitness is fitness whichever way you look at it... a 100% fit bullx will go all nite.. and put more determination in than any colliex will... colliex,s are well known for preserving energy by doing just enough to get the job done.. sadly doing just enough doesnt do it any favours on certain quarry... atb stabba

 

Fitness is fitness yes, but on the other hand a boxer in top physical condition won't be able to touch along distance runner on a off day..

yeah but we are not talking about boxers and long distance runners are we,we are talking about dogs you forget we are not talking about pure bulls or pure collies competing you forget half the make up of either cross or more is made up from a sprinting dog both the greyhound and bull are athletes in the dog world a collie is a herding dog with a good brain, a bull is a game as hell package of raw power and does not know when to quit,a collie has endurance but it also has the brain to say ive had enough i am knackerd where a bull cross wont there is not many collie cross dogs you hear of that have run till they drop a good game bull cross would if you would let it

regards hedz

[stabba 10,745]

Fitness is fitness whichever way you look at it... a 100% fit bullx will go all nite.. and put more determination in than any colliex will... colliex,s are well known for preserving energy by doing just enough to get the job done.. sadly doing just enough doesnt do it any favours on certain quarry... atb stabba

 

Fitness is fitness yes, but on the other hand a boxer in top physical condition won't be able to touch along distance runner on a off day..

yeah but we are not talking about boxers and long distance runners are we,we are talking about dogs you forget we are not talking about pure bulls or pure collies competing you forget half the make up of either cross or more is made up from a sprinting dog both the greyhound and bull are athletes in the dog world a collie is a herding dog with a good brain, a bull is a game as hell package of raw power and does not know when to quit,a collie has endurance but it also has the brain to say ive had enough i am knackerd where a bull cross wont there is not many collie cross dogs you hear of that have run till they drop a good game bull cross would if you would let it

regards hedz

well said hedz

[Guest 2GOOD]

Fitness is fitness whichever way you look at it... a 100% fit bullx will go all nite.. and put more determination in than any colliex will... colliex,s are well known for preserving energy by doing just enough to get the job done.. sadly doing just enough doesnt do it any favours on certain quarry... atb stabba

stabba ,if you do end up in my neck of the woods next season .just make sure you know what fittnes is ,i mean you not your dogs im looking forward to carrying you

[cooper101 86]

Fitness is fitness whichever way you look at it... a 100% fit bullx will go all nite.. and put more determination in than any colliex will... colliex,s are well known for preserving energy by doing just enough to get the job done.. sadly doing just enough doesnt do it any favours on certain quarry... atb stabba

 

Fitness is fitness yes, but on the other hand a boxer in top physical condition won't be able to touch along distance runner on a off day..

yeah but we are not talking about boxers and long distance runners are we,we are talking about dogs you forget we are not talking about pure bulls or pure collies competing you forget half the make up of either cross or more is made up from a sprinting dog both the greyhound and bull are athletes in the dog world a collie is a herding dog with a good brain, a bull is a game as hell package of raw power and does not know when to quit,a collie has endurance but it also has the brain to say ive had enough i am knackerd where a bull cross wont there is not many collie cross dogs you hear of that have run till they drop a good game bull cross would if you would let it

regards hedz

 

i dont understand this run till it drops bit?? will they be running fast enough to catch a fresh rabbit then drop in full flight or will they not be anywere near the rabbits pace but still trying till they drop (in the latter case a pointless run) !! at the end of the day you can want it as much as you like when your blown out theres nothing you can do!! theres going to be exceptions with all crosses but majority of collie types will naturally last longer than bull xz!! they might not be stupid enough to run themselves into the ground in a feeble attempt to catch quarry!! whats the point?? but it still dosent hide the fact that as game as you are if your body has gone you may last a little on grit but it wont get the job done against a fresh rabbit!!

[stabba 10,745]

Fitness is fitness whichever way you look at it... a 100% fit bullx will go all nite.. and put more determination in than any colliex will... colliex,s are well known for preserving energy by doing just enough to get the job done.. sadly doing just enough doesnt do it any favours on certain quarry... atb stabba

stabba ,if you do end up in my neck of the woods next season .just make sure you know what fittnes is ,i mean you not your dogs im looking forward to carrying you

i can mooch abit mate.. for an oldie... but when im being carried my tail tends to pop out

[hedz31 1,308]

Fitness is fitness whichever way you look at it... a 100% fit bullx will go all nite.. and put more determination in than any colliex will... colliex,s are well known for preserving energy by doing just enough to get the job done.. sadly doing just enough doesnt do it any favours on certain quarry... atb stabba

 

Fitness is fitness yes, but on the other hand a boxer in top physical condition won't be able to touch along distance runner on a off day..

yeah but we are not talking about boxers and long distance runners are we,we are talking about dogs you forget we are not talking about pure bulls or pure collies competing you forget half the make up of either cross or more is made up from a sprinting dog both the greyhound and bull are athletes in the dog world a collie is a herding dog with a good brain, a bull is a game as hell package of raw power and does not know when to quit,a collie has endurance but it also has the brain to say ive had enough i am knackerd where a bull cross wont there is not many collie cross dogs you hear of that have run till they drop a good game bull cross would if you would let it

regards hedz

 

i dont understand this run till it drops bit?? will they be running fast enough to catch a fresh rabbit then drop in full flight or will they not be anywere near the rabbits pace but still trying till they drop (in the latter case a pointless run) !! at the end of the day you can want it as much as you like when your blown out theres nothing you can do!! theres going to be exceptions with all crosses but majority of collie types will naturally last longer than bull xz!! they might not be stupid enough to run themselves into the ground in a feeble attempt to catch quarry!! whats the point?? but it still dosent hide the fact that as game as you are if your body has gone you may last a little on grit but it wont get the job done against a fresh rabbit!!

there is gonna be folk on both sides of the fence kidder,only way to see in my eyes is some one run there collie cross against some ones bull cross on rabbits we aint talking pot filling here the debate is endurance am sure some one on this site has a good bull cross you could maybe run your 3/4grey 1/4 collie against it if not i know a chap has a 3/4grey 1/4bull i am sure i could get him to run it with you would maybe better if it was some one of this site though i am neutral to this i am just saying how i see it so i would be a witness to a said match if you like i think it would be a good laugh in the name of sport what do you think ??

regards hedz

[kevin kiely 66]

i dont understand this run till it drops bit?? will they be running fast enough to catch a fresh rabbit then drop in full flight or will they not be anywere near the rabbits pace but still trying till they drop (in the latter case a pointless run) !! at the end of the day you can want it as much as you like when your blown out theres nothing you can do!! theres going to be exceptions with all crosses but majority of collie types will naturally last longer than bull xz!! they might not be stupid enough to run themselves into the ground in a feeble attempt to catch quarry!! whats the point?? but it still dosent hide the fact that as game as you are if your body has gone you may last a little on grit but it wont get the job done against a fresh rabbit!!

well said,im still not convinced,i still think a half collie cross at full fitness will give you more successful runs in a nights lamping then a half bull cross in their full fitness

[Guest 2GOOD]

Fitness is fitness whichever way you look at it... a 100% fit bullx will go all nite.. and put more determination in than any colliex will... colliex,s are well known for preserving energy by doing just enough to get the job done.. sadly doing just enough doesnt do it any favours on certain quarry... atb stabba

stabba ,if you do end up in my neck of the woods next season .just make sure you know what fittnes is ,i mean you not your dogs im looking forward to carrying you

i can mooch abit mate.. for an oldie... but when im being carried my tail tends to pop out

feck that you can stay where you drop .

[Stabs 3]

There are different types of stamina too. Are you talking about run after run like on a lamp, which they would have done for rabbit coursing back in the day? Or long runs a la hare coursing? A lot to do with recovery rates as well as actual physical stamina. I’ve seen a collie cross take a puncture through the throat, one through the chest, suffer a broken shoulder, broken leg, get an 8 inch gash in it’s flank and have it’s guts half hanging out, and still not let go of a wild boar. It certainly didn’t demonstrate some of the qualities that have been attributed to a collie cross in this thread. And I’m from a bull background and love them dearly. Not everything is black and white guys.

[kevin kiely 66]

There are different types of stamina too. Are you talking about run after run like on a lamp, which they would have done for rabbit coursing back in the day? Or long runs a la hare coursing? A lot to do with recovery rates as well as actual physical stamina. I’ve seen a collie cross take a puncture through the throat, one through the chest, suffer a broken shoulder, broken leg, get an 8 inch gash in it’s flank and have it’s guts half hanging out, and still not let go of a wild boar. It certainly didn’t demonstrate some of the qualities that have been attributed to a collie cross in this thread. And I’m from a bull background and love them dearly. Not everything is black and white guys.

i was talking recovery rate ,run after run,on the lamp.

[cooper101 86]

Fitness is fitness whichever way you look at it... a 100% fit bullx will go all nite.. and put more determination in than any colliex will... colliex,s are well known for preserving energy by doing just enough to get the job done.. sadly doing just enough doesnt do it any favours on certain quarry... atb stabba

 

Fitness is fitness yes, but on the other hand a boxer in top physical condition won't be able to touch along distance runner on a off day..

yeah but we are not talking about boxers and long distance runners are we,we are talking about dogs you forget we are not talking about pure bulls or pure collies competing you forget half the make up of either cross or more is made up from a sprinting dog both the greyhound and bull are athletes in the dog world a collie is a herding dog with a good brain, a bull is a game as hell package of raw power and does not know when to quit,a collie has endurance but it also has the brain to say ive had enough i am knackerd where a bull cross wont there is not many collie cross dogs you hear of that have run till they drop a good game bull cross would if you would let it

regards hedz

 

i dont understand this run till it drops bit?? will they be running fast enough to catch a fresh rabbit then drop in full flight or will they not be anywere near the rabbits pace but still trying till they drop (in the latter case a pointless run) !! at the end of the day you can want it as much as you like when your blown out theres nothing you can do!! theres going to be exceptions with all crosses but majority of collie types will naturally last longer than bull xz!! they might not be stupid enough to run themselves into the ground in a feeble attempt to catch quarry!! whats the point?? but it still dosent hide the fact that as game as you are if your body has gone you may last a little on grit but it wont get the job done against a fresh rabbit!!

there is gonna be folk on both sides of the fence kidder,only way to see in my eyes is some one run there collie cross against some ones bull cross on rabbits we aint talking pot filling here the debate is endurance am sure some one on this site has a good bull cross you could maybe run your 3/4grey 1/4 collie against it if not i know a chap has a 3/4grey 1/4bull i am sure i could get him to run it with you would maybe better if it was some one of this site though i am neutral to this i am just saying how i see it so i would be a witness to a said match if you like i think it would be a good laugh in the name of sport what do you think ??

regards hedz

 

i like that idea alot!! although it could be judged unfair as my dog paces himself and only runs full tilt when needed clearly conserving energy i think you would really need to run a collie x with the same running style to judge it fiarly!! but im definatly up for it as soon as hes recovered and i get a chance to get him back up to fitness!!