wuyang 513 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Never worked a bull/greyhound or seen one work, but i know they're highly regarded by many on this site. I have always worked collie greyhounds or whippets. I was curious if bull/greyhounds have the edge over collie greyhounds when it comes to stamina, or maybe the bullgreyhound/colliegreyhound......what you think? Quote Link to post
Tiny 7 1,694 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 IMHO Both cross's benfit with a touch of saluki in the mix... Quote Link to post
wuyang 513 Posted March 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Fair comment, but lets stick to bull or collie...ATB Quote Link to post
cooper101 86 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 bull xz i seen run have been heavy set dogs mainly half crosses they dont come close to my mates half x collie when it comes to long nights out! but thats the ones ive seen!! im sure people will disagree with me but its only what ive witnessed!! Quote Link to post
the bullcross man 6 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 i like my bull crosses but i think the collie crosses have the edge with the stamina Quote Link to post
hedz31 1,308 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 here we go again,there both good dogs in there own right ,ive seen some good dogs go all night in both crosses and seen some poor ones perform in both crosses every one says the bull cross is to heavy ive seen some real heavy cloddy 1st cross collie greyhounds to, remember when folk comment there is different ways bred in each cross 3/4 cross ,1st cross,lurcher to lurcher cross ie 2nd gen or 5/8s 3/8ths etc it also depends what your running the dogs on what effort the owner has put in to make sure there dogs are fit etc ,i really do think when it comes to stamina between to the 2 i think you will find a collie cross will quit 1st because the bull blood in the bull cross will keep it going even when its body wants to stop, where as a collie cross will simply pull up and say ive had enough because they tend to be brighter it does not always come to stamina it can sometimes come to how game and keen your dog is i am not saying this is written law am sure plenty folk have seen a bull cross quit and we will hear stories of how they have but ill put my bottom dollar on it they were unfit or poorly kept regards hedz p.s. i run neither cross so that was a toataly unbiased opinion i run wheaten/grey Quote Link to post
cooper101 86 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 like i said it was based on what i had witnessed with both crosses!! you can be as game as you like if you blow out you blow out end of!! whats the point in chasing a rabbit if you havent got the legs to get to it!! Quote Link to post
Top Lamper 2k10 169 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 bull crosses have no where near as much stamina as a colli cross bull crosses are to heavy unless you have a 3/4 bred 1 but still doesnt matches a colli cross stamina colli crosses can run for ever when they are at there peak of fittness atb Top Lamper Quote Link to post
hedz31 1,308 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 like i said it was based on what i had witnessed with both crosses!! you can be as game as you like if you blow out you blow out end of!! yes fella i dont disagree with you am sure you have seen it, like i said only my opinion on what ive seen over the years it does not make it right, over the years ive seen more collie crosses pull up before i have bull crosses ,and like i said i say this with an unbiased opinion as i dont run either cross from your opinion i am guessing you perhaps own a collie cross ??? regards hedz Quote Link to post
cooper101 86 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 like i said it was based on what i had witnessed with both crosses!! you can be as game as you like if you blow out you blow out end of!! yes fella i dont disagree with you am sure you have seen it, like i said only my opinion on what ive seen over the years it does not make it right, over the years ive seen more collie crosses pull up before i have bull crosses ,and like i said i say this with an unbiased opinion as i dont run either cross from your opinion i am guessing you perhaps own a collie cross ??? regards hedz from what your saying your accusing me of bieng biased as i have a 3/4 grey x collie i commented on what i had witnessed with half crosses! i am only speaking the truth about the two crosses!! i take it all collie cross owners who agree with me that collies have more stamina than bull xz are biased aswell?? people who have the the crosses are entitled to tell the truth are they not?? Quote Link to post
hedz31 1,308 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 like i said it was based on what i had witnessed with both crosses!! you can be as game as you like if you blow out you blow out end of!! yes fella i dont disagree with you am sure you have seen it, like i said only my opinion on what ive seen over the years it does not make it right, over the years ive seen more collie crosses pull up before i have bull crosses ,and like i said i say this with an unbiased opinion as i dont run either cross from your opinion i am guessing you perhaps own a collie cross ??? regards hedz from what your saying your accusing me of bieng biased as i have a 3/4 grey x collie i commented on what i had witnessed with half crosses! i am only speaking the truth about the two crosses!! i take it all collie cross owners who agree with me that collies have more stamina than bull xz are biased aswell?? people who have the the crosses are entitled to tell the truth are they not?? yes of course and i never said you were biased i just guessed you had a grey x collie the same as when some one jumps on to defend a bull cross i presume they have a bull cross ,i have neither cross and i am just saying what i have seen,i have people i know who are fans of collies cross dogs and i have people i know are fans of bull cross dogs, so i have seen both crosses work many times i have owned both crosses myself i like both crosses a great deal, my opinion is mine and mine alone from what i have seen i am not influenced from owning either cross as i dont, its simply from what i have seen chap, i have not sat here and slated either cross or said one cross is better than the other i simply said from what i have seen a bull crosses gameness has took it that bit further than the collie cross dogs ive seen that have pulled up and gave it a stuff that i know i am bolloxed regards hedz Quote Link to post
cooper101 86 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 like i said it was based on what i had witnessed with both crosses!! you can be as game as you like if you blow out you blow out end of!! yes fella i dont disagree with you am sure you have seen it, like i said only my opinion on what ive seen over the years it does not make it right, over the years ive seen more collie crosses pull up before i have bull crosses ,and like i said i say this with an unbiased opinion as i dont run either cross from your opinion i am guessing you perhaps own a collie cross ??? regards hedz from what your saying your accusing me of bieng biased as i have a 3/4 grey x collie i commented on what i had witnessed with half crosses! i am only speaking the truth about the two crosses!! i take it all collie cross owners who agree with me that collies have more stamina than bull xz are biased aswell?? people who have the the crosses are entitled to tell the truth are they not?? yes of course and i never said you were biased i just guessed you had a grey x collie the same as when some one jumps on to defend a bull cross i presume they have a bull cross ,i have neither cross and i am just saying what i have seen,i have people i know who are fans of collies cross dogs and i have people i know are fans of bull cross dogs, so i have seen both crosses work many times i have owned both crosses myself i like both crosses a great deal, my opinion is mine and mine alone from what i have seen i am not influenced from owning either cross as i dont, its simply from what i have seen chap, i have not sat here and slated either cross or said one cross is better than the other i simply said from what i have seen a bull crosses gameness has took it that bit further than the collie cross dogs ive seen that have pulled up and gave it a stuff that i know i am bolloxed regards hedz Quote Link to post
kevin kiely 66 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 like i said it was based on what i had witnessed with both crosses!! you can be as game as you like if you blow out you blow out end of!! whats the point in chasing a rabbit if you havent got the legs to get to it!! thats true,the stamina from bull is there for pit fighting,different fitness to running fitness which collie blood is more suited to due to their fieldwork Quote Link to post
stabba 10,745 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Fitness is fitness whichever way you look at it... a 100% fit bullx will go all nite.. and put more determination in than any colliex will... colliex,s are well known for preserving energy by doing just enough to get the job done.. sadly doing just enough doesnt do it any favours on certain quarry... atb stabba 1 Quote Link to post
Guest 2GOOD Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 not all collie crosses have loads a stamina, seen a few that were uncapable of going all nite same as not all bull x's are heavy, seen a few that capable of going all nite like said, fitness plays a big part in what you get oot of a dog sounds a bit like having sex , who can beat 3 minutes Quote Link to post
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