Literally Unbelievable

[romany52 313]

Just been doing some research. The most powerful bird known is the female Harpy Eagle. They can lift their own weight, 9kg/20lbs. So yup, they could take a Staffie. JRT would be an appetiser.

 

Ric

 

Bollocks mate ,a female buzzard weighs between 2 and 3lbs, they would struggle to lift a full grown rabbit.

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

Just been doing some research. The most powerful bird known is the female Harpy Eagle. They can lift their own weight, 9kg/20lbs. So yup, they could take a Staffie. JRT would be an appetiser.

 

Ric

 

My Pats are around 10kg surely a Staff would be around 14kg?

[Swampy 147]

Just been doing some research. The most powerful bird known is the female Harpy Eagle. They can lift their own weight, 9kg/20lbs. So yup, they could take a Staffie. JRT would be an appetiser.

 

Ric

 

Bollocks mate ,a female buzzard weighs between 2 and 3lbs, they would struggle to lift a full grown rabbit.

 

Bollox back. I've got a pic of a kite lifting a hare.thats bigger than a rabbit the last time I ate one.

 

Rgds

 

African or european swallow ning (anyone get this they can have a ning!)

[greg64 2,818]

Just been doing some research. The most powerful bird known is the female Harpy Eagle. They can lift their own weight, 9kg/20lbs. So yup, they could take a Staffie. JRT would be an appetiser.

 

Ric

 

Bollocks mate ,a female buzzard weighs between 2 and 3lbs, they would struggle to lift a full grown rabbit.

 

Bollox back. I've got a pic of a kite lifting a hare.thats bigger than a rabbit the last time I ate one.

 

Rgds

 

African or european swallow ning (anyone get this they can have a ning!)

MONTY PYTHONS HOLY GRAIL

[waidmann 105]

as long as buzzards are fed on tips and the like we will have a population that is too high(as with crows etc).

i have never seen a buzzard take anything bigger than a fist sized rabbit(mostly they seem to feed on mice and worms along with beetles etc).

now i'm no falconer but a friend who was once told me that a buzzard while quite big does not have the "power of talon" to hold/kill very much at all. if the buzzard is capable of catching a full grown rabbit why do we not see them on every leather clad fist??? a wild buzzard will surely be fitter than any mews kept bird?

a book quote:

 

feeding of the common buzzard:(buteo buteo)

he will in the wild feed on small mammals,insects. during the rearing of chicks he will occasionally take young

rabbits, hare and chicks. in winter when very hungry adult partridge......

 

i can see that the "offending" buzzard may well not have been a buzzard at all,or that the pup really was tiny(as a rolled up sock ).

most would not know the difference in bop species. if it has a "bent beak" then its a buzzard or a parrrot.for exactly that reason i would be against culling these magnificent birds.if you set out birds then you calculate with predatory loss,its part of the game.reduce what you can(hairy stuff and corvids) and accept what you can't(bop)

 

waidmann

Edited March 26, 2010 by waidmann

[Swampy 147]

Just been doing some research. The most powerful bird known is the female Harpy Eagle. They can lift their own weight, 9kg/20lbs. So yup, they could take a Staffie. JRT would be an appetiser.

 

Ric

 

Bollocks mate ,a female buzzard weighs between 2 and 3lbs, they would struggle to lift a full grown rabbit.

 

Bollox back. I've got a pic of a kite lifting a hare.thats bigger than a rabbit the last time I ate one.

 

Rgds

 

African or european swallow ning (anyone get this they can have a ning!)

MONTY PYTHONS HOLY GRAIL

Fair nings to ya sir!

[Swampy 147]

as long as buzzards are fed on tips and the like we will have a population that is too high(as with crows etc).

i have never seen a buzzard take anything bigger than a fist sized rabbit(mostly they seem to feed on mice and worms along with beetles etc).

now i'm no falconer but a friend who was once told me that a buzzard while quite big does not have the "power of talon" to hold/kill very much at all. if the buzzard is capable of catching a full grown rabbit why do we not see them on every leather clad fist??? a wild buzzard will surely be fitter than any mews kept bird?

a book quote:

 

feeding of the common buzzard:(buteo buteo)

he will in the wild feed on small mammals,insects. during the rearing of chicks he will occasionally take young

rabbits, hare and chicks. in winter when very hungry adult partridge......

 

i can see that the "offending" buzzard may well not have been a buzzard at all,or that the pup really was tiny(as a rolled up sock ).

most would not know the difference in bop species. if it has a "bent beak" then its a buzzard or a parrrot.for exactly that reason i would be against culling these magnificent birds.if you set out birds then you calculate with predatory loss,its part of the game.reduce what you can(hairy stuff and corvids) and accept what you can't(bop)

 

waidmann

 

Wise words mate!

I swear though a Buzzard could lift a Hare. They are v similar in size and shape to a red kite (bar tail of course) and I've got the pic!

Rgds

 

Swampy

Desperately searching for my pic of kite and hare ning

[Lab 10,979]

as long as buzzards are fed on tips and the like we will have a population that is too high(as with crows etc).

i have never seen a buzzard take anything bigger than a fist sized rabbit(mostly they seem to feed on mice and worms along with beetles etc).

now i'm no falconer but a friend who was once told me that a buzzard while quite big does not have the "power of talon" to hold/kill very much at all. if the buzzard is capable of catching a full grown rabbit why do we not see them on every leather clad fist??? a wild buzzard will surely be fitter than any mews kept bird?

a book quote:

 

feeding of the common buzzard:(buteo buteo)

he will in the wild feed on small mammals,insects. during the rearing of chicks he will occasionally take young

rabbits, hare and chicks. in winter when very hungry adult partridge......

 

i can see that the "offending" buzzard may well not have been a buzzard at all,or that the pup really was tiny(as a rolled up sock ).

most would not know the difference in bop species. if it has a "bent beak" then its a buzzard or a parrrot.for exactly that reason i would be against culling these magnificent birds.if you set out birds then you calculate with predatory loss,its part of the game.reduce what you can(hairy stuff and corvids) and accept what you can't(bop)

 

waidmann

Why would a buzzard choose to take a fully fit rabbit when there are easier pickings around, christ they are not stupid birds!!........poults in rearing pen are like taking candy of a baby to these birds and thats why they are becoming more and more of a pest.

I have watched them countless days take rabbits on my own shoot( granted most have maxi) but they are still strong rabbits which kind of rubbishes your grab statement.

[waidmann 105]

yes bud they are a similar size but the red kite weighs up to 1.3kg(milvus milvus) and the buzzard up to 1kg(buteo buteo).

 

i'm not doubting you have seen it happen(exceptions prove rules as they say in physics) but it is certainly not the norm (an adult hare weighing between 3 and 5kg lepus europaeus).

did you see the buzzard strike the hare??

 

 

my thought being he may have been "empty" which would drasticly reduce the weight?

Edited March 26, 2010 by waidmann

[romany52 313]

Ok, I challenge anyone to produce a pic of a european buzzard flying with an adult european rabbit. Put up or shut up.

[RicW 67]

I did say that I was referring to the female Harpy Eagle which weighs 9kg/20lbs and can lift her own weight. I wish some people would take the trouble to read my post before going off on one.

I'm happy to accept that a full grown Staffie would be too heavy. The Eagle would end up regretting trying anyway!

 

Ric

[Edd_Wiltshire 9]

Here it is!

 

[Swampy 147]

Here it is!

 

Now that I'd shoot!

 

Quality Ed!

 

I WILL find the pic. It was taken on my mobile just before Christmas when the snow was down. Less food about? I don't know. The bird flew low over my moving landrover (scarey!) over the hedge and dropped.

I reversed andd got my lad to get some pics.He tried getting closer and off it flew with the hare.

There are quite a few Red Kite in the area (1st area in UK to have them reintroduced secretly from portuguese stock)Buzzards are also common.

Many of the farmers round here have seen Kite take rabbit.

Honest Guv! On ma life its troo! Ning

[Lab 10,979]

Here it is!

 

Well thats a blast from the past.....long time since i have seen the ol Buzz-abit.

[gnipper 6,426]

I've never heard the keepers round here complain about the buzzards which are getting more common round here, tawny's and spars are the ones for doing poults though.

Owl kills out of curiosity, sparrowhawk will only kill up to a certain age but the buzzard will kill and continue to kill even fully grown pheasants. I'm very surprised the keepers are not having any trouble with them since you say they are getting more common in your area?.

 

I'm not so sure about the curiosity bit mate, when I was keepering we would regularly find them dead with just the heads pulled off and swallowed. That and live partridge with holes in them where the spars had been eating away at them without killing them along with loads of dead ones. The birds soon cotton on to where to get an easy feed.