deerhound or bull x ?

[hedz31 1,308]

i bet this thread causes some arguments lol,me personely i have nothing against either cross there both useful but my preference would be with a bull cross as some deerhound crosses seem to throw to large for my liking but thats just my personel preference, ive seen great examples of both crosses work very well.

 

 

When you say "Work very well" what do you define as "Very well"

 

I have only seen 4 bull X's work.

 

1 was ferreting. Very steady over nets, but lost a fair few bolters. 23tts.

 

2 was daytime, 25tts lack of early pace lost it's quarry.

 

3 again daytime, in 2001, 25tts smashed its feet up after 6 slips.

 

4 lamping 23tts had a few sitters, but was struggling to make the turns, and its timeing to strike was bad.

 

However i have seen them on fox, and they are at home here.

what i define as work well is to do there job to a suitable standard, and i have seen quite a few bull cross dogs work well and quite a few deerhound cross dogs work well i fail to see how you can make a judgement when in your own words you have only seen 4 work ive seen plenty of crosses have off days including bull crosses ive also seen poor examples of crosses in both bull and deerhound

1 you saw 1 ferreting was steady over netts but lost a fair few bolters ive seen all crosses lose bolters a deerhound cross type being the worst how old was the dog you saw ,was that the blokes bread and butter that was working it ???

 

2daytime lack of early pace how heavy was the cross and what way bred ,ive seen 3/4 grey 1/4 bull types take daytime reasonably well or as well as other crosses of similar stamp bar saluki hybreds of course

 

3 daytime 2001 after 6 slips smashed its feet up,what was you running the dog on was the dogs feet not checked after each slip or nothing noticed in its running to mention maybe a problem with its feet any cross can smash its feet up at any time and you get poor feet in all crosses through poor breeding

 

4 you saw 1 lamping and its timing and strike were bad ?? how old was the dog and you can get this in any cross also because you have saw one poor example lamping you assume they are all poor ???

 

regards hedz

 

Hedz, the 4 bull x's i have seen must of been bad types.....

 

4 is enough to see that they all struggled in one way or another, and for me never to own one. All one was interested in was chewing the rabbits to bits. Yes could of been very bad training from the owner. Maybe.......

 

The youngest was 3 the others no older than 5. Two were of a heavy built frame, the other's were pretty racy type. You use the word "Reasonably". Thats all you seem to hear when Bull X's are mentioned, except when foxs are mentioned. Why is that?

 

Now i have seen this in other types too, but the subject is on the Bull x's is it not. So i will refer to the Bull X's.

 

Good and bad in all, but a bull X for me and for the type of land i use is not suitable.

yeah there are bad types and poor training in any cross ive seen a few myself,its horses for courses i guess what type of cross do you run artic ??? i myself do not run either bull or deerhound cross dogs,i use wheaten/greyhounds there is a dash of bull back in the line on one side though and i have used bull cross dogs over the years,i see alot of people pull them to bits but at the end of the day they must do something right for folk otherwise they wouldnt be such a popular dog no one can denie there popularity no matter what they think of the cross

regards hedz

[artic 595]

i bet this thread causes some arguments lol,me personely i have nothing against either cross there both useful but my preference would be with a bull cross as some deerhound crosses seem to throw to large for my liking but thats just my personel preference, ive seen great examples of both crosses work very well.

 

 

When you say "Work very well" what do you define as "Very well"

 

I have only seen 4 bull X's work.

 

1 was ferreting. Very steady over nets, but lost a fair few bolters. 23tts.

 

2 was daytime, 25tts lack of early pace lost it's quarry.

 

3 again daytime, in 2001, 25tts smashed its feet up after 6 slips.

 

4 lamping 23tts had a few sitters, but was struggling to make the turns, and its timeing to strike was bad.

 

However i have seen them on fox, and they are at home here.

what i define as work well is to do there job to a suitable standard, and i have seen quite a few bull cross dogs work well and quite a few deerhound cross dogs work well i fail to see how you can make a judgement when in your own words you have only seen 4 work ive seen plenty of crosses have off days including bull crosses ive also seen poor examples of crosses in both bull and deerhound

1 you saw 1 ferreting was steady over netts but lost a fair few bolters ive seen all crosses lose bolters a deerhound cross type being the worst how old was the dog you saw ,was that the blokes bread and butter that was working it ???

 

2daytime lack of early pace how heavy was the cross and what way bred ,ive seen 3/4 grey 1/4 bull types take daytime reasonably well or as well as other crosses of similar stamp bar saluki hybreds of course

 

3 daytime 2001 after 6 slips smashed its feet up,what was you running the dog on was the dogs feet not checked after each slip or nothing noticed in its running to mention maybe a problem with its feet any cross can smash its feet up at any time and you get poor feet in all crosses through poor breeding

 

4 you saw 1 lamping and its timing and strike were bad ?? how old was the dog and you can get this in any cross also because you have saw one poor example lamping you assume they are all poor ???

 

regards hedz

 

Hedz, the 4 bull x's i have seen must of been bad types.....

 

4 is enough to see that they all struggled in one way or another, and for me never to own one. All one was interested in was chewing the rabbits to bits. Yes could of been very bad training from the owner. Maybe.......

 

The youngest was 3 the others no older than 5. Two were of a heavy built frame, the other's were pretty racy type. You use the word "Reasonably". Thats all you seem to hear when Bull X's are mentioned, except when foxs are mentioned. Why is that?

 

Now i have seen this in other types too, but the subject is on the Bull x's is it not. So i will refer to the Bull X's.

 

Good and bad in all, but a bull X for me and for the type of land i use is not suitable.

yeah there are bad types and poor training in any cross ive seen a few myself,its horses for courses i guess what type of cross do you run artic ??? i myself do not run either bull or deerhound cross dogs,i use wheaten/greyhounds there is a dash of bull back in the line on one side though and i have used bull cross dogs over the years,i see alot of people pull them to bits but at the end of the day they must do something right for folk otherwise they wouldnt be such a popular dog no one can denie there popularity no matter what they think of the cross

regards hedz

 

Yes nice wheaten X's. Now i have seen them work and very happy with what i saw.

 

I run Deerhound X's and Saluki X's

 

[hunter1 63]

Two smart looking dogs mate.

[hedz31 1,308]

smart looking pair artic

[artic 595]

Cheers lads.

 

They keep me busy.

 

[the bullcross man 6]

good old bull cross cant beat them

[salclalin 240]

Deerhound Cross everytime

[scotty2306 37]

why not cross them together meant to be a good cross

[stormrider8 59]

The only thing the deerhound x would possibly do better is the hare. Bull x for me! But my next lurcher will be a deerhound greyhound x bull grey!!

[the lamping ferreter 160]

a bull x will apsalutly write off what eva biting quarry or fighting quarry u put it on and will do a rabbit and odd hare but a deerhound x grey will do hares rabbits foxes deer the lot but bullx more power and the deerhound x more speed but has still got power id go for a deerhound x my salf i have a bullx and he was unreal on the fighting quarry [bANNED TEXT] the ban

[Taker 1]

Having had a couple of both crosses i would have to say deerhound x the bull x dogs do there job you cant fault them i personally think the deerhound x does it better.Strike ,general fieldcraft for want of a better word they just seem to have that something about them. ATB taker.

[blackpack 70]

i have a deerhound bull greyhound, around 28 inch and is doing very well, for the size he catches enough rabbits for me, excellent breeding on both sides so im happy with this x.

[shamus 36]

you would be surprised how deerhounds and deerhound xs can get down on rabbits,my pure deerhound bitch is a fine ferreting dog,thoughtfull and intelligent too.

I also run a 1/4 bull bitch and i could'nt really fault her other than she is a bit reckless but that is part of her appeal,to me anyway.

She had a brush with the reaper on saturday afternoon,hitting a corrugated iron partridge shelter and very nearly bleeding to death by the time we got to the vets.

However,50 stitches and £280 later she is rcovering.

[whin 463]

thats a fecher shamus had a few bad ones my self mostly chaseing long ears and roads tho ,cars and when ruuning a wood , aman says to me about runing dogs 25 years ago once you let them of the leash at times there in the hands of god ,lost afew dogs through running injuries its a fecher mate

[whin 463]

saw lots of scottish deerhound types d platts breds them andy baron used to , we fgrew up with deerhound types and collie lurchers and bred gos dogs out of them ,saw avery handy deerhound cross years ago , not a HARE DOG NOT AFOX DOG BUT COULD CATCH DER AND RABBITS ,IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT GOOD DEEHOUND TYPE OR STAGHOUND THE AMOERICAN HUNTER IS GOT PLENTY OF THEM AND LAND AND QAURRY TO TEST THEM , THEPROBLEMIS GETTING GOOD DEEHOUNDS WHO CAN WORK WELL AND ARE SOUND AND BREEDING THEM [bANNED TEXT] I WOULD SAY ITS EASIER TO GET A LITE BULL CROSS THAN ADEERHOUND CROS THATS AGOOD ALLROUNDER , THE SCOTTICH DEERHOUND TYPE OF THIRTY YEARS AGO WAS AHANDY ANIMAL WE HAD THEM MISD EIGHTIES , VERY GOOD DOGS BUT ITS WERE DO YOU GET THEM NOWADAYS,TO DO THE SAME AS AWEEL BRED SALUK CROSS OR COLLIE TYPE OF THE [bANNED TEXT] TYPE ,I WOULD GO FOR THE SCOTTISH DEHOUND TYPE LURCHER AS I SAW PLENTY AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER , LOCALY AND FURTHER AFEILD , SOME GOOD DOGS ,