do you weigh your cases..........

[blackfox 9]

Hello Chaps, well i was doing a snip of reloading today for the .204 and after some tips from a mate, thought i would weigh my cases as my groups still arnt as tight as id like.....

 

 

I know this case weighing may be common practise for some, its worth a thought if you dont.

 

 

So after de-buring cleaning etc etc i then primed my cases and began weighing, for simplicity i thought that i would keep them in per grain ranges i.e a 96.2 would go in the same as 96.9. I know this may not be a tight enough weight range but its the first time ive done this.

 

 

 

Anyways i found out the following, this is based on a total of 92 cases.

 

12 @ 105 range

28 @ 97 range

52 @ 96 range

 

 

obviously, there is a big difference in weights... the outside dimensions would be the same but the the internal dimensions would be different as the "thickness" of the brass. i.e more internal volume

 

It may not matter (as much) with larger calibres, but for the likes of the .17 & .20 cals obviously this can make a huge difference on ballistics.

 

 

 

 

Thoughts & Comments welcome chap`s

[clint 45]

Are this case all same factory ?

[blackfox 9]

Are this case all same factory ?

 

 

Yeah, sorry i forgot to put that in, they are all Hornady brass.

 

Cheers

[andyf 144]

Hello Chaps, well i was doing a snip of reloading today for the .204 and after some tips from a mate, thought i would weigh my cases as my groups still arnt as tight as id like.....

 

 

I know this case weighing may be common practise for some, its worth a thought if you dont.

 

 

So after de-buring cleaning etc etc i then primed my cases and began weighing, for simplicity i thought that i would keep them in per grain ranges i.e a 96.2 would go in the same as 96.9. I know this may not be a tight enough weight range but its the first time ive done this.

 

 

 

Anyways i found out the following, this is based on a total of 92 cases.

 

12 @ 105 range

28 @ 97 range

52 @ 96 range

 

 

obviously, there is a big difference in weights... the outside dimensions would be the same but the the internal dimensions would be different as the "thickness" of the brass. i.e more internal volume

 

It may not matter (as much) with larger calibres, but for the likes of the .17 & .20 cals obviously this can make a huge difference on ballistics.

 

 

 

 

Thoughts & Comments welcome chap`s

Well:

I don't think it makes any difference at all, and given that YOU have NO CHOICE of brass because you bought a 'weird' calibre, what are you planning to do about the difference in the weights

anyway?

What you need to concentrate on are the things YOU can influence, bullet, powder, primer and most of all consistancy in all of the preceeding, get only the best of components, take great care

especially with the powder charge weight and the bullet seating.

The case is 'only' a container for the powder and a grip for the bullet, not anything to get excited about, but if your losing sleep trade it for a .223 get Lapau brass and sleep easy!

AndyF

[blackfox 9]

:realmad:

Well:

I don't think it makes any difference at all, , what are you planning to do about the difference in the weights

anyway?

What you need to concentrate on are the things YOU can influence, bullet, powder, primer and most of all consistancy in all of the preceeding, get only the best of components, take great care

especially with the powder charge weight and the bullet seating.

The case is 'only' a container for the powder and a grip for the bullet, not anything to get excited about, but if your losing sleep trade it for a .223 get Lapau brass and sleep easy!

AndyF

 

 

Lets talk about SOME of the GUFF YOUR reply CONTAINS

 

 

.204 - ITS very OBVIOUS that YOU dont KNOW what THE hell YOUR talking ABOUT

 

 

Brass wise i can get the following

 

Hornady

Norma

Nosler

Remington

Winchester

 

And thats just from Midway UK.... there is more avaliable from other suppliers, so to answer that comment brass is not an issue.

 

 

I want to be 1 hole grouping at 120 yrds.

 

Whilst talking about things i can influence.... maybe i should purchase my bullet heads in by the thousand to then be sure that they are all from the same batch (competition shooters do this)

 

 

As for the " what are you planning to do about the difference in the weights

anyway?" easy really i just adjust powder weights slightly to increase accuracy.

 

And as you seem very disimformed & dont really know your mustard, i made some bullets and the grouping was different for the various weights.

 

Its funny how you talk about consistancy, yet if the cases weight ranges from 96-105 grains that is not consistant.

 

"and given that YOU have NO CHOICE of brass because you bought a 'weird' calibre" and for that i just think :wankerzo4:

 

 

 

[v-max 2]

I do or did in the 22.250 & 25/06 but as you said for the smaller case capacity it could make a diffrence. I know you aint loading yet but i think you should try crimping some rounds as this can give you a consistant start pressure i do all mine have done for 13-14yrs. i have sorted my cases out by type ie norma/winchester etc.

[flytie 1]

I know this case weighing may be common practise for some, its worth a thought if you dont.

 

It may not matter (as much) with larger calibres,

 

Thoughts & Comments welcome chap`s

 

No, I don't!

 

ft

[coldweld 65]

Hello Chaps, well i was doing a snip of reloading today for the .204 and after some tips from a mate, thought i would weigh my cases as my groups still arnt as tight as id like.....

 

 

I know this case weighing may be common practise for some, its worth a thought if you dont.

 

 

So after de-buring cleaning etc etc i then primed my cases and began weighing, for simplicity i thought that i would keep them in per grain ranges i.e a 96.2 would go in the same as 96.9. I know this may not be a tight enough weight range but its the first time ive done this.

 

 

 

Anyways i found out the following, this is based on a total of 92 cases.

 

12 @ 105 range

28 @ 97 range

52 @ 96 range

 

 

obviously, there is a big difference in weights... the outside dimensions would be the same but the the internal dimensions would be different as the "thickness" of the brass. i.e more internal volume

 

It may not matter (as much) with larger calibres, but for the likes of the .17 & .20 cals obviously this can make a huge difference on ballistics.

 

 

 

 

Thoughts & Comments welcome chap`s

Well:

I don't think it makes any difference at all, and given that YOU have NO CHOICE of brass because you bought a 'weird' calibre, what are you planning to do about the difference in the weights

anyway?

What you need to concentrate on are the things YOU can influence, bullet, powder, primer and most of all consistancy in all of the preceeding, get only the best of components, take great care

especially with the powder charge weight and the bullet seating.

The case is 'only' a container for the powder and a grip for the bullet, not anything to get excited about, but if your losing sleep trade it for a .223 get Lapau brass and sleep easy!

AndyF

 

 

Pehaps we should get rid of all 'weird' calibre's and stick to all proper stuff !!

 

Oh how silly of me ALL of the METALIC cases were weird at one time .

Edited March 23, 2010 by coldweld

[blackfox 9]

I do or did in the 22.250 & 25/06 but as you said for the smaller case capacity it could make a diffrence. I know you aint loading yet but i think you should try crimping some rounds as this can give you a consistant start pressure i do all mine have done for 13-14yrs. i have sorted my cases out by type ie norma/winchester etc.

 

 

Hello, well I have loaded some of my weight sorted cases.... They do actually shoot differently- the grouping was bigger from one to the other. So it dose make a difference......

 

I have friends that shoot .17 rem & .204 they swear by this methord.

[garyw 0]

unless you are shooting benchrest then i dont see the need to weight sort cases.for my rifles i would rather concentrate on getting my reloading consistant and not worry about internal volume of cases.i shoot .17 rem and have done for a fair few years now the rp brass is not the best in the world so sorting them for weight isnt going to help reinvent the wheel.concentrate on loading and then your shooting style and this will pay more than sorting brass.

[andyf 144]

:realmad:

Well:

I don't think it makes any difference at all, , what are you planning to do about the difference in the weights

anyway?

What you need to concentrate on are the things YOU can influence, bullet, powder, primer and most of all consistancy in all of the preceeding, get only the best of components, take great care

especially with the powder charge weight and the bullet seating.

The case is 'only' a container for the powder and a grip for the bullet, not anything to get excited about, but if your losing sleep trade it for a .223 get Lapau brass and sleep easy!

AndyF

 

 

Lets talk about SOME of the GUFF YOUR reply CONTAINS

 

 

.204 - ITS very OBVIOUS that YOU dont KNOW what THE hell YOUR talking ABOUT

 

 

Brass wise i can get the following

 

Hornady

Norma

Nosler

Remington

Winchester

 

And thats just from Midway UK.... there is more avaliable from other suppliers, so to answer that comment brass is not an issue.

 

 

I want to be 1 hole grouping at 120 yrds.

 

Whilst talking about things i can influence.... maybe i should purchase my bullet heads in by the thousand to then be sure that they are all from the same batch (competition shooters do this)

 

 

As for the " what are you planning to do about the difference in the weights

anyway?" easy really i just adjust powder weights slightly to increase accuracy.

 

And as you seem very disimformed & dont really know your mustard, i made some bullets and the grouping was different for the various weights.

 

Its funny how you talk about consistancy, yet if the cases weight ranges from 96-105 grains that is not consistant.

 

"and given that YOU have NO CHOICE of brass because you bought a 'weird' calibre" and for that i just think :wankerzo4:

 

 

 

1 hole groups at 120 yards?

Advice, throw away the Remington, forget .204 Ruger (Weird calibre) cos it's not going to make it, get an RPA/Callum Fergusson in 6MM PPC.

Spend all your time weighing cases, then shoot cardboard until you get a one hole group at 120 yards, now having cracked it with shooting

take up golf, 18 hole in ones no doubt?

AndyF